Yes I expect mine to have it too. I think mine is 16 yrs old! Isn’t that insane?! I got it from real real so hopefully all good. There are other ones but I think I got a good deal on this one. My first Hermes.I just purchased a pre-loved K32 retourne Clemence as well. For being 14 years old, this bag is has little slouch. She does need to head over to the spa for a little R&R. I'll do that next spring. I just love the feel of Clemence and accept that there will be some slouch. Hope this helps!
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I don’t think yes has much slouch. Also I’m going to get a base and insert. And pillow if I keep.