Juste Un Clou Bracelet (JUC) Discussion
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Cartier says the serial number on her bracelet is from 2015 however that type of closure didn’t exist then. The Hampton auction showed the same serial number as OPs bracelet, but the Hampton bracelet had the old closure from 2015 and the old closure’s more oval shape which makes me believe the Hampton bracelet was authentic and the eBay bracelet a copy.
Also OP didn’t have Cartier polish the bracelet, just clean the bracelet. The person who merely cleans the jewelry might not be as savvy or experienced as a polisher.
If this is the case then Cartier is out here servicing fake jewelry. The Cartier associate brought the piece to the back of the store and said come back in 15 minutes for a quick shine service that is servicing the bracelet there is no way they will accept a fake price of jewelry they are CARTIER that’s a horrible and crazy accusation to make..
Either way Cartier will not touch a fake piece of jewelry to clean, shine, polish they have standards and go through a vigorous training process. Each item that enters the store they check authenticity first before Anything. They cannot be wrong period.
I have read through the posts made by Rusalka122. I also looked at the photos in the ebay listing shown by the poster and compared them to the photos shown by Hampton Auction. The ebay seller shows the certificate date as June 14th 2017 while the certificate and invoice shown in the pictures posted by Hampton Auction show an invoice and certificate date of June 4th 2015. As other members have stated, the new closure was introduced in 2017 where as Hampton Auction’s photos clearly show the original closure.
There were other red flags to my eye when viewing the seller’s pictures compared to those from Hampton Auction. I can’t speak to the SAs assessments at Cartier and yes the serial numbers match. I find those conflicting dates to questionable. Rusalka 122 I think you’re smart to send the JUC back to the seller for a refund.
There were other red flags to my eye when viewing the seller’s pictures compared to those from Hampton Auction. I can’t speak to the SAs assessments at Cartier and yes the serial numbers match. I find those conflicting dates to questionable. Rusalka 122 I think you’re smart to send the JUC back to the seller for a refund.
I didn't doubt at all it was fake because everything looked legitimate until the Hampton Estate auction turned up... but honestly someone must have gone above and beyond to sell you a fake that would pass Cartier basic inspection and turn up in the system.
What caught my attention was the seller blatantly lying when telling you it was a replacement certificate. How did you or they not acknowledge/notice the mechanism difference?
It seems very very strange that Cartier would not have noticed the date and new mechanism issue either.
If I were you I would have straight up told them the truth... you purchased on eBay but were not 100% sure this item was legitimate after it arrived. You didn't do anything wrong or commit a crime... they would have simply inspected it thoroughly and told you the truth and if it was fake you would immediately file a claim with eBay since you have been sold a counterfeit item. Sadly it passed their inspections also.
It's crazy what scammers are capable of these days if this bracelet was in fact fake, to use legitimate serial numbers and extremely convincing design.
You should be getting 100% of your money back directly through the seller. If they don't give it to you make sure you contact eBay and use your buyer protection. Also let them know of this seller selling fake items so it doesn't fall into someone else's hands.
What caught my attention was the seller blatantly lying when telling you it was a replacement certificate. How did you or they not acknowledge/notice the mechanism difference?
It seems very very strange that Cartier would not have noticed the date and new mechanism issue either.
If I were you I would have straight up told them the truth... you purchased on eBay but were not 100% sure this item was legitimate after it arrived. You didn't do anything wrong or commit a crime... they would have simply inspected it thoroughly and told you the truth and if it was fake you would immediately file a claim with eBay since you have been sold a counterfeit item. Sadly it passed their inspections also.
It's crazy what scammers are capable of these days if this bracelet was in fact fake, to use legitimate serial numbers and extremely convincing design.
You should be getting 100% of your money back directly through the seller. If they don't give it to you make sure you contact eBay and use your buyer protection. Also let them know of this seller selling fake items so it doesn't fall into someone else's hands.
Ladies,
Thank you so much for all your support here! I shipped the bracelet back yesterday. I feel sad and relieved at the same time. If I pay $5500 for something ( even if it’s cheaper that getting it at the store) I don’t want to have even a little bit of doubt that it will be authentic. So I didn’t have a choice but to send it back.
It should be delivered to the seller on Friday. Hope I will get my money back. I really wanted to believe it was real but way too many red flags and especially that auction. I looked at other items that the seller sold before and one of them last year was another JUC ( also with a Certificate) and the description was identical. Now I have no doubts that it’s fake. Just a VERY good fake that it even passed the Cartier inspection. I just think nowadays they are so good with fakes that it will pass a boutique inspection as well. I have heard a similar crazy story about fake Chanel bag that was brought from China ( a very good fake) and the person took it to a Chanel store because the clasp was broken. And the craziest thing it was repaired without any problems!!! It’s just unbelievable.
I learned my lesson that’s for sure. And as soon as I get my money back ( hopefully I
will) I just want to get the real thing from the boutique and be happy with it and enjoy it.
How long does it normally take to get the money back after you return an item. The eBay policy said a seller
Should send it within 2 days after the delivery date. I am a little worried about that. Can’t wait for this nightmare to be over.
Thank you so much for all your support here! I shipped the bracelet back yesterday. I feel sad and relieved at the same time. If I pay $5500 for something ( even if it’s cheaper that getting it at the store) I don’t want to have even a little bit of doubt that it will be authentic. So I didn’t have a choice but to send it back.
It should be delivered to the seller on Friday. Hope I will get my money back. I really wanted to believe it was real but way too many red flags and especially that auction. I looked at other items that the seller sold before and one of them last year was another JUC ( also with a Certificate) and the description was identical. Now I have no doubts that it’s fake. Just a VERY good fake that it even passed the Cartier inspection. I just think nowadays they are so good with fakes that it will pass a boutique inspection as well. I have heard a similar crazy story about fake Chanel bag that was brought from China ( a very good fake) and the person took it to a Chanel store because the clasp was broken. And the craziest thing it was repaired without any problems!!! It’s just unbelievable.
I learned my lesson that’s for sure. And as soon as I get my money back ( hopefully I
will) I just want to get the real thing from the boutique and be happy with it and enjoy it.
How long does it normally take to get the money back after you return an item. The eBay policy said a seller
Should send it within 2 days after the delivery date. I am a little worried about that. Can’t wait for this nightmare to be over.
I’m sorry this happened to you, and I hope you get your money back quickly without issue.
Your story has made up my mind to never purchase pre-loved Cartier.
No, please better pay more but be happy and enjoy an authentic piece without worries. I am just so anxious about the refund now that she might give me hard time... ahhhh... I sure will keep you ladies posted...
When did you request the refund of your bracelet? Your seller has posted your bracelet for another auction on 17 Dec 2018 at 7:40:16PM PST
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cartier-Ju...h=item48bb938ff5:g:MYwAAOSw9y1b0jLd:rk:7:pf:0
This time the seller says there’s a serial number but doesn’t give the number nor did she show the certificate. Do you think she had a few of these bracelets made or she’s doing this anticipating she’ll have already received OP’s returned bracelet?
This is crazy. Rusalka, I hope you get your money back quickly. I looked at sellers past items sold and it appears she got a lot of positive feedback on selling items under $100. And then only her last 9 items were jewelry. Someone bought a VC&A bracelet for $14,000. Wonder if that person got the real thing or was scammed.
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