Johnny Depp

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Physical abuse isn't the only kind of abuse, in fact emotional abuse can have longer lasting, invisible scars.

That being said, any attack on your person can be frightening - even if the injuries aren't much to look at.

I think comparing how one victim looks to another and deeming one more worthy is dangerous, simply based on aesthetics - even if that victim is an entirely unsympathetic type of person like Amber.

100% agree and I do know this, I was actually hoping someone would say what you did. I was wanting to express a feeling I have in spite of this. You can know things intellectually and still have feelings that swing in a way that may not compliment what you know.

The feeling mostly highlights the overall impression I have of Depp which is that I don't find him threatening... I find him quite pathetic actually.


Edit: Also I can understand why people react the way they do when these types of stories come out. The optics of a situation go a long way in determining a narrative. It takes a lot of work to sift through fact and fiction and it's a process that is often unsatisfying, it's a lot easier to go with a gut feel and what is a gut feel but your sub-conscious processing small bits of information you're constantly seeing and hearing.
 
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^ His recent appearances with his band are lame and don't endear me to him at all. It just makes me want him to get his sh*t together even more.

I know right! she looks so much younger. Not that I paid much attention before but I can't recall seeing photos of her without makeup before the last couple of weeks.

I know I'm going to get in trouble for saying this but what the heck...

The thing with Amber is that her injuries weren't severe enough for me to care all that much if I'm honest. I know that's horrible to say and you can't judge trauma by external injuries and abuse is unacceptable and all acts of violence should be condemned etc (forgive me if I've left something out).... but I mean it's not like it was on the level of what Rihanna went through. Rihanna's injuries and the account of what happened to her were horrifying. Having a phone thrown at you and being shouted at and having your hair grabbed but some unfit, slightly overweight, ageing rocker/actor/eccentric isn't on that level.

100% agree and I do know this, I was actually hoping someone would say what you did. I was wanting to express a feeling I have in spite of this. You can know things intellectually and still have feelings that swing in a way that may not compliment what you know.

The feeling mostly highlights the overall impression I have of Depp which is that I don't find him threatening... I find him quite pathetic actually.

I totally understand where you're coming from. Johnny is no Chris Brown. He's not young, athletic and muscular. He doesn't seem like much of a physical threat. In fact, if he'd stand above me shouting at me I'd probably start laughing because of the dangling necklaces and eyeliner. But if you're a young and skinny actress that probably hasn't eaten in months you wouldn't have the power to physically attack him. There is this fight, flight or freeze thing and I have a feeling she froze. I mean she also said he was drunk and high so most of the obscenities he's shouted were probably unclear anyway. I don't know. This is something that sounds like it didn't happen the first time and I think before she engaged him and did equally nasty stuff. So can you then still call it abuse just because this time you would like a divorce and money?
Her statement indicated he accused her of cheating and this is how the argument started. Sounds like mentally she already checked out of the relationship.
 
What in God's name has happened to Johnny Depp's looks? He's always opted for bohem chic eccentric and it worked for him (I thought it was kinda hot actually) but what the hey is this current"look"??? Over the hill bloated rocker??? Mid life crisis????? It is awful. His current look is old and sad.


You are seeing the effects of time and his choices in life. He simply followed the path of many others before him in Hollywood, indulging in behaviors that destroyed what he had.

Although I never thought he was hot since he always gave off a creepy weirdo vibe.
 
I totally understand where you're coming from. Johnny is no Chris Brown. He's not young, athletic and muscular. He doesn't seem like much of a physical threat. In fact, if he'd stand above me shouting at me I'd probably start laughing because of the dangling necklaces and eyeliner. But if you're a young and skinny actress that probably hasn't eaten in months you wouldn't have the power to physically attack him. There is this fight, flight or freeze thing and I have a feeling she froze. I mean she also said he was drunk and high so most of the obscenities he's shouted were probably unclear anyway. I don't know. This is something that sounds like it didn't happen the first time and I think before she engaged him and did equally nasty stuff. So can you then still call it abuse just because this time you would like a divorce and money?
Her statement indicated he accused her of cheating and this is how the argument started. Sounds like mentally she already checked out of the relationship.

I can see how Depp can be threatening, I was mostly wanting to express a background prejudice that's been rolling around in the back of my mind because I know that does influence my thinking. We're all guilty of selection bias and I'm always curious why people select the information they do in certain situations. I try to take a long hard look at myself (often unsuccessfully) to identify why I think the way I do and then I like to throw things out there to see what comes back and hopefully in that process I can figure more things out.

I've been asking myself why I don't trust Amber 100%... I think a lot of it has to do with that letter she and her lawyer sent to Depp, it seemed like a thinly veiled threat translating to... if you don't pay what we're asking the sh*t's gonna get real... and then it did get real. That and the white trash comment from an old interview with her posted a few pages back. She's also always struck me as someone who's quite flinty, definitely not naive. I looked at the photos of her leaving the court house (or wherever), crying in the car and thought... oh please!

But on the other hand... Abuse is abuse even if the person may be opportunistic and the law and society dictate that he should pay a penalty if he committed the crime. He's the one who lost control and now someone has a case... sucks for him but when there is chaos in your life (to that degree) there is a reason for it, he probably should have looked at that long ago instead of letting it brew.

Things for Depp were quite calm for a while, the last time there were stories of bad behaviour was when he was with Kate Moss, he's probably someone who is influenced quite a bit by the person he's with, add drugs + alcohol and it's a volatile cocktail.
 
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I can see how Depp can be threatening, I was mostly wanting to express a background prejudice that's been rolling around in the back of my mind because I know that does influence my thinking. We're all guilty of selection bias and I'm always curious why people select the information they do in certain situations. I try to take a long hard look at myself (often unsuccessfully) to identify why I think the way I do and then I like to throw things out there to see what comes back and hopefully in that process I can figure more things out.

I've been asking myself why I don't trust Amber 100%... I think a lot of it has to do with that letter she and her lawyer sent to Depp, it seemed like a thinly veiled threat translating to... if you don't pay what we're asking the sh*t's gonna get real. That and the white trash comment from an old interview with her posted a few pages back, what could be more white trash than this current situation? She strikes me as someone who's quite flinty, definitely not naive. I definitely looked at the photos of her leaving the court house (or wherever), crying in the car and thought... oh please!

But on the other hand... Abuse is abuse even if the person may be opportunistic and the law and society dictate that he should pay a penalty if he committed the crime. He's the one who lost control and now someone has a case... sucks for him but when there is chaos in your life (to that degree) there is a reason for it, he probably should have looked at that long ago instead of letting it brew.

Things for Depp were quite calm for a while, the last time there were stories of bad behaviour was when he was with Kate Moss, he's probably someone who is influenced quite a bit by the person he's with, add drugs + alcohol and it's a volatile cocktail.

This is a great post and I keep going back and forth too.

And I know why: my first reaction is to not discount the alleged victim.

That's why I keep saying even though I don't like her I need to hear more from Depp's camp. She's also calling some of his team as witnesses and apparently has video.

I think they were both very bad for the other.

It's a good conversation though.
 
I can see how Depp can be threatening, I was mostly wanting to express a background prejudice that's been rolling around in the back of my mind because I know that does influence my thinking. We're all guilty of selection bias and I'm always curious why people select the information they do in certain situations. I try to take a long hard look at myself (often unsuccessfully) to identify why I think the way I do and then I like to throw things out there to see what comes back and hopefully in that process I can figure more things out.

I've been asking myself why I don't trust Amber 100%... I think a lot of it has to do with that letter she and her lawyer sent to Depp, it seemed like a thinly veiled threat translating to... if you don't pay what we're asking the sh*t's gonna get real... and then it did get real. That and the white trash comment from an old interview with her posted a few pages back. She's also always struck me as someone who's quite flinty, definitely not naive. I looked at the photos of her leaving the court house (or wherever), crying in the car and thought... oh please!

But on the other hand... Abuse is abuse even if the person may be opportunistic and the law and society dictate that he should pay a penalty if he committed the crime. He's the one who lost control and now someone has a case... sucks for him but when there is chaos in your life (to that degree) there is a reason for it, he probably should have looked at that long ago instead of letting it brew.

Things for Depp were quite calm for a while, the last time there were stories of bad behaviour was when he was with Kate Moss, he's probably someone who is influenced quite a bit by the person he's with, add drugs + alcohol and it's a volatile cocktail.


Very good observation!
 
I can see how Depp can be threatening, I was mostly wanting to express a background prejudice that's been rolling around in the back of my mind because I know that does influence my thinking. We're all guilty of selection bias and I'm always curious why people select the information they do in certain situations. I try to take a long hard look at myself (often unsuccessfully) to identify why I think the way I do and then I like to throw things out there to see what comes back and hopefully in that process I can figure more things out.

I've been asking myself why I don't trust Amber 100%... I think a lot of it has to do with that letter she and her lawyer sent to Depp, it seemed like a thinly veiled threat translating to... if you don't pay what we're asking the sh*t's gonna get real... and then it did get real. That and the white trash comment from an old interview with her posted a few pages back. She's also always struck me as someone who's quite flinty, definitely not naive. I looked at the photos of her leaving the court house (or wherever), crying in the car and thought... oh please!

But on the other hand... Abuse is abuse even if the person may be opportunistic and the law and society dictate that he should pay a penalty if he committed the crime. He's the one who lost control and now someone has a case... sucks for him but when there is chaos in your life (to that degree) there is a reason for it, he probably should have looked at that long ago instead of letting it brew.

Things for Depp were quite calm for a while, the last time there were stories of bad behaviour was when he was with Kate Moss, he's probably someone who is influenced quite a bit by the person he's with, add drugs + alcohol and it's a volatile cocktail.

Yeah I get that. You're probably right. I feel like you. There's this mistrust on my side for Amber. I feel like she planned that all along. The letter from the lawyer looks like ONE attempt to settle it out of court but the media narrative is she tried for the "longest" time to keep it out of the media.

Why does she even have video of previous attacks? Wouldn't Johnny have tried to get rid of that? And her saying that his kids do not hate her is also an attempt to change the narrative. She's playing with the media as much as he does but if her story were true she wouldn't need all of this. And then of course her appearance at court. I tell you the role of her lifetime. A huge bruise on her cheek and the next day after the meeting you hardly see anything. She's got some healing powers.

He might have emotionally abused her but I have yet to see any clear evidence of him having physically abused her. He threw a phone that might not even was aimed at her but in her general direction. She was on the phone while he tried to fight with her. That riled him up even more. He took the phone and threw it. It could've been like that. That doesn't sound like intentional physical abuse given that he likes to rather destroy hotel rooms. It also seems like she's not good at navigating arguments. You don't start a fight one day after his mother died, he's coming in drunk and high and he's accusing you of cheating. You just walk away from that. That was a fight boiling right there.

I agree with you though that whatever partner you have it will amplify your own behaviour. Whether it's a partner that calms you down or riles you up.
 
Source:
http://www.thewrap.com/johnny-depp-...by-amber-heard-heres-how-i-know-guest-column/

Actor’s friend, comic Doug Stanhope, says that Heard was “threatening to lie about him publicly in any and every possible duplicitous way if he didn’t agree to her terms”
It’s almost 4 a.m. and I can’t sleep. Not even dozing off. Today, a friend of mine was pilloried in the press for domestic violence. Coupled with a picture of his wife with a bruise, he was murdered on social media.
I watched it happen and I didn’t say a f—ing word.
Even though I knew it was bulls—.

We’d watched it build like this since before they were married. We’d watched her manipulate and f— with him for years. We didn’t say a word. To each other, yes, but never to him.
When your friend is in an awful, abusive relationship — man or woman — and you risk weighing in that their counterpart is a demon, you know the odds are they will jump right back into the fire and then dump you from their life for being honest.
Most of us have been on one or both sides of this coin. Choosing to be blinded, or removing the people who have clearer eyes that can guide you.
The fact that Hollywood and the entertainment industry at large — f—, society as a whole — turns a blind eye to domestic violence is abhorrent.

But the tides have turned in such a way that the mere allegation that such a crime has occurred leaves the person accused as guilty without due process.
My girlfriend, Bingo, and I have known Johnny Depp for a few years now. We have watched Amber Heard f— with him at his weakest — or watched him at his weakest from being f—ed with — for the entire time we’ve known him.
And we didn’t say s—.
Because he’s Johnny Depp.
And we didn’t want to be thrown out of the circle for saying that The Emperor was being Stripped of His Clothes.

It isn’t my place to name people who agreed with us but I couldn’t name one person closely associated with him that didn’t feel the same.
But nobody said s— to his face.
Bingo and I were at Johnny’s house for most of that Saturday until just before the alleged assault. We assumed initially that his dour mood was because of his mother’s death the day before. But he opened up in the most vulnerable of ways that it was not only his mother, but that Amber was now going to leave him, threatening to lie about him publicly in any and every possible duplicitous way if he didn’t agree to her terms. Blackmail is what I would imagine other people might put it, including the manner in which he is now being vilified.
We stopped not saying s—.

Bingo and I together, and then separately, told him how much we were aware of this manipulative a–hole, how his closest circle had all agreed on this since the day we met and that we all feared that telling him outright might alienate us all.
Love makes you do funny things.
I told him the truth and I half-expected to be asked to leave. But I wasn’t seeing Johnny Depp. I saw a naked Emperor. And we told him to get dressed.
Other people came in and out during the afternoon, all verifying that we’d been cowardly, saying things only behind his back for so long.
He seemed dumbstruck that nobody had ever come clean about this and he thanked everyone for being honest.

He still pronounced his love for Amber but was presciently aware that she was going to pull off some kind of ruse to f— him over.
He hadn’t slept in days with anxiety.
You’d call him a paranoid if you didn’t know better.
But he knew better and he was right.
As he finally felt like he could sleep, we left him. From what we now read in the news, later that night the police were called to his house for a domestic dispute. Finding no criminal act had occurred and no signs of physical abuse, the police left.
Everything Johnny had told us that she’d been threatening had actually come to be. It blew up in the news, raced through the Internet like a plague and blew up on Twitter like it was the McMartin child abuse scandal. People are swarming with torches on social media.

I watched it all happen ahead of time and I watched it come to fruition today. And I haven’t been able to sleep again because I didn’t say s— to defend him.
Why?
Because I felt like in defending him I would just come across as a sycophant trying to attach myself to a sensationalized story in order to further my career. A latterday Kato Kaelin. And now as the sun is coming up, I realized not saying s— to defend him is a far worse crime of ego; to leave a friend hanging so you don’t look like a suck-up.
I — and the “we” that were there — aren’t suck-ups or apologists. We were witnesses.
I didn’t jump into the fray because I was weak; it was because I didn’t want to look like a name-dropper.
I’ll name-drop now. Johnny Depp is my friend.

But any one of my friends will tell you I always call them out on bulls—. Abusing women is bulls—. Johnny doesn’t abuse anyone. And he told me that day ahead of time that she’d pull some kind of s— like this.
Johnny Depp got used, manipulated, set up and made to look like an a–hole. And he saw it coming and didn’t or couldn’t do anything to stop it.
He may never talk to me again for saying it but I’d never forgive myself for not coming to his defense out of fear or ego.
I stand up for my friends and I tell the f—ing truth.


Amber Heard‘s representatives have not yet returned TheWrap’s request for comment on this Hollyblog.
 
I can see how Depp can be threatening, I was mostly wanting to express a background prejudice that's been rolling around in the back of my mind because I know that does influence my thinking. We're all guilty of selection bias and I'm always curious why people select the information they do in certain situations. I try to take a long hard look at myself (often unsuccessfully) to identify why I think the way I do and then I like to throw things out there to see what comes back and hopefully in that process I can figure more things out.

I've been asking myself why I don't trust Amber 100%... I think a lot of it has to do with that letter she and her lawyer sent to Depp, it seemed like a thinly veiled threat translating to... if you don't pay what we're asking the sh*t's gonna get real... and then it did get real. That and the white trash comment from an old interview with her posted a few pages back. She's also always struck me as someone who's quite flinty, definitely not naive. I looked at the photos of her leaving the court house (or wherever), crying in the car and thought... oh please!

But on the other hand... Abuse is abuse even if the person may be opportunistic and the law and society dictate that he should pay a penalty if he committed the crime. He's the one who lost control and now someone has a case... sucks for him but when there is chaos in your life (to that degree) there is a reason for it, he probably should have looked at that long ago instead of letting it brew.

Things for Depp were quite calm for a while, the last time there were stories of bad behaviour was when he was with Kate Moss, he's probably someone who is influenced quite a bit by the person he's with, add drugs + alcohol and it's a volatile cocktail.
Good post.
 
Slowly, people are coming out in his defense. Paul Bettany, his first wife, Laurie Holden. Looks like he's got backup in Hollywood.


Unfortunately that does not mean he was not abusive. People very close to abused women can have absolutely no idea what is going on behind closed doors! Abusers often keep their true persona hidden! Even family members of the abused have no idea what is going on!
 
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