How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

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Wide faces with a short midface and good forward growth are amazing. I will share my face so you can see what a narrow face can look like. I don't mind I have done pr for the clinic I worked at. Btw I don't mind my face but my adenoids growth pattern never got corrected so my goal is to make it look like I have better growth
 

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Wide faces with a short midface and good forward growth are amazing. I will share my face so you can see what a narrow face can look like. I don't mind I have done pr for the clinic I worked at. Btw I don't mind my face but my adenoids growth pattern never got corrected so my goal is to make it look like I have better growth

This picture needs no explanation. Biggish, full face V-Line slim face.Olsen twins.jpg
 
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Wow @SheOnlyLooks25 the sisters look younger and prettier with big wide full faces than with slim v lines which project a more angular harsher look! More food for thought! Fascinating the longer noses make them look older as the tip has dropped. I don't want a long nose anymore or a sharp v line. No more desire for a lifting procedure.
 
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Oh my goodness I had no idea even fg gets infected! Make sure you take antibiotics postop!

I've actually prepped fat and assisted with grafts before. It's a difficult process to keep the fat viable for transfer. Fat is sterile obviously however breaks in sterile technique can lead to infection, and since there can be several steps in the process the risk is higher than say, juvaderm which comes pre-packaged. For example, the Mycobacterium species listed in one of the photos is know to be transferred via exposure of surgical tools to tap water. I am assuming that is where the infections come from. Maybe poor hygiene of the incision site as well.

I would ask the clinic how they prep the fat and make sure you have a clinic really attentive to sterility.
 
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On the topic of FG. Found this interesting paper on rising infections from fg in SK.

I'd love to know which clinics have fg related infections. That's so scary those women are forever scarred by an elective procedure. If you asked a clinic during consultation how many infections from fg they've had in the past 5 years, would they even answer you honestly? Side note, I'd love for anyone consulting with MVP to report back on how they respond when asked if they had any medical accidents...
 
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I've actually prepped fat and assisted with grafts before. It's a difficult process to keep the fat viable for transfer. Fat is sterile obviously however breaks in sterile technique can lead to infection, and since there can be several steps in the process the risk is higher than say, juvaderm which comes pre-packaged. For example, the Mycobacterium species listed in one of the photos is know to be transferred via exposure of surgical tools to tap water. I am assuming that is where the infections come from. Maybe poor hygiene of the incision site as well.

I would ask the clinic how they prep the fat and make sure you have a clinic really attentive to sterility.

If any clinic offers free FG top-up within 3-6 months, then politely decline that option and ask for a discount on the primary/fresh fat graft, or an alternative FDA approved treatment of equivalent value, e.g. botox, filler, or maybe even a beauty facial or grooming treatment.

Injecting thawed fat that was frozen for any length of time is more likely to deteriorate and allows harmful bacteria to multiply (even if slowly) if not stored or LABELLED correctly. Are you sure that's not someone else's fat reserves injected inside you? Ooops!

In my opinion, a free FG top-up just seems to be a marketing ploy to lure patients back for more surgical procedures on an impulsive whim, like as if you were to pop out to buy just a bottle of milk at the supermarket, but then you end up returning home with a car load of grocery shopping! :-/

BTW, try a liquified fat experiment: Freeze a plastic bottle of fresh full-fat whole milk and then thaw it 3-6 months later... it curdles into chunky lumps and tastes as awful as it looks!
 
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If any clinic offers free FG top-up within 3-6 months, then politely decline that option and ask for a discount on the primary/fresh fat graft, or an alternative FDA approved treatment of equivalent value, e.g. botox, filler, or maybe even a beauty facial or grooming treatment.

Injecting thawed fat that was frozen for any length of time is more likely to deteriorate and allows harmful bacteria to multiply (even if slowly) if not stored or LABELLED correctly. Are you sure that's not someone else's fat reserves injected inside you? Ooops!

In my opinion, a free FG top-up just seems to be a marketing ploy to lure patients back for more surgical procedures on an impulsive whim, like as if you were to pop out to buy just a bottle of milk at the supermarket, but then you end up returning home with a car load of grocery shopping! :-/

I would confirm first whether or not they used stored fat or perform lipo again for the top up, if it's the latter definitely don't decline!

There was an article posted recently that using frozen fat also increases the chance for lipomas/lumps so it's yet another reason to avoid that. Fat graft survival is hard enough as is when done right after lipo, so freezing the fat for months to inject later and expecting it to survive just sounds absurd to me.
 
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I would confirm first whether or not they used stored fat or perform lipo again for the top up, if it's the latter definitely don't decline!

There was an article posted recently that using frozen fat also increases the chance for lipomas/lumps so it's yet another reason to avoid that. Fat graft survival is hard enough as is when done right after lipo, so freezing the fat for months to inject later and expecting it to survive just sounds absurd to me.

We got out fat from lipo and I prepped the fat right there in the OR by filtering it. I know there are better methods to purify it though but it worked for us for the most part. As long as there wasn't really aggressive lipo, that just destroys the cells. It generally took as well as expected, still needed some treatments and the surgeon has to be really good at injecting it
 
We got out fat from lipo and I prepped the fat right there in the OR by filtering it. I know there are better methods to purify it though but it worked for us for the most part. As long as there wasn't really aggressive lipo, that just destroys the cells. It generally took as well as expected, still needed some treatments and the surgeon has to be really good at injecting it

What would you estimate was the 6+ month survival rate for your office? Also any thoughts on adding prp to fg? Is it worth the extra cost?

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Any thoughts on the technique Dr. Hong uses in this video:
 
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What would you estimate was the 6+ month survival rate for your office? Also any thoughts on adding prp to fg? Is it worth the extra cost?

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Any thoughts on the technique Dr. Hong uses in this video:


We were a body focused clinic, and I only did a few cases of fat grafting there. We brought in an external surgeon when we had a fat graft and the ones we did were all booty :smile: It was variable as far as results but once the fat took in the area by the 1 month follow up it was there for the sixth month follow up. It was about 50% average for both the first and the second treatment. If they didn't need very much or were filling in a small depression they usually just happy with one. One thing they don't discuss too often is that if you do too many sessions in the same area, scar tissue can form there and make things worse for you. However on the other had, I don't like the idea of overfilling. Smaller treatments worked better.

We didn't add PRP to our fat graft although we did PRP by itself on occasion. This was just the way the outside surgeon did it, not saying it's bad at all. Actually I think it sounds like it might be a good idea, but as cost vs results, I could not say.

The video you sent shows pretty good technique. The cannula size looks kinda large for the face but if that's the tool that works for him and gets results, that's what matters. Its been said that small cannula increase fat viability and reduce the chance of lumps. Harvesting via syringe the way he did is the best way to do it. Like I said, using the standard lipo equipment can traumatized the cells. We didn't do lipo on the face, and Dr did not recemmend patients to seek lipo of the face elsewhere. However that's the west and if they have better ways in the east, it's possible they have a good method. I don't know about acculift either that's actually something I was considering. We did have a RF body tightening treatment that worked for the right people.

Hope that helps a little! For face stuff other than fillers and botox I don't have too much experience. Lipo and tummy tucks we did everyday tho

BTW that ultrasound to look at the tissue layers looks pretty awesome, definity a huge selling point there.
 
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