How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.
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you look great, I'm in my late 30s, my face is sagging badly, worst than your before picture. I had face liposuction done 5 years ago. I believe I need a facelift. was your facelift surgery thread or other method?
I really appreciated your advices, I had my first plastic surgery done 5 years ago after reading your experiences. I had my DES done at MVP, doctor was Dr. Hyun, as I grow old, my eyes are getting sagging, gravity is so scary haha...I plan to do DES revision too.I just wanted to express my immense gratitude to this website and the owners for allowing me to share my lengthy personal photo diary journey and the global audience for being kind and friendly and not posting mean remarks to my sensitive before or healing photos. Each time I have shared my journey in order to help others in a UK and a US facelift fb group, I have been trolled, falsely accused of not being a doctor and had my private FB account hacked and a private photo posted in the fb group and mocked, then banned from the groups by the admins for drama created by trolls. I don’t get paid like social influencers and the incredible hits that this thread get benefits the purse forum not me. It makes me wonder if my haters are showing racist microaggressions? I wish I could be comfortable in my Korean ethnic skin and dye my hair back to black to embrace my ethnicity but while I live amongst a predominantly Caucasian population, I find people are more accepting of me in public with blonde hair.. Thanks again to the wonderful tpf readers for your kindness, understanding and sensitivity! I truly hope one day to be able to dye my hair back to black and not be affected by microaggressions. My Euroasian face created with multiple plastic surgeries is my way of adapting and trying to fit in here in the UK to reduce bias against me, both conscious and unconscious. I am struggling to learn Korean so cannot survive in Korea. It is extremely hard growing up and living for decades as the odd one out in the UK.
Hi @Moon88 I tried threads but then realised I cannot tolerate foreign bodies so had them removed the next day. I had a smas facelift operation to cut away 7 cms of skin and suture up the smas muscle layer.
Hi @Teina, I cancelled this op as the thigh liposuction for the breast fat transfer sculpted my thighs.
Can I suggest that anyone getting full face fat transfer or facelift causing postop oedema/swelling consider getting prescribed postop steroids to reduce the swelling to minimal. In hindsight swelling from multiple fat transfers stretched my skin by a total of 7 cms and caused me to prematurely need a lower facelift. In fact after the first facial fat graft I had +++ swelling and I think that is why I flew back to Korea 3 months later when the skin sagged thinking my face had deflated and I needed more fat. Then it became a vicious cycle of topping up, swelling, loosening my facial skin and going back to korea to repeat the cycle!
I think if you are postmenopause with poor skin elasticity and less collagen, it may become essential to only get facial fat graft or facelift with steroids. No wonder Dr Ben Talei, Dr Amir Karam and Dr Andrew Jacono all give their facelift patients steroids. Top facelift surgeons know how important it is to reduce skin stretch with steroids.
Even my upper thigh skin got loose with multiple thigh liposuctions and I even booked a mini thigh lift, but I wore 24/7 tights/leggings for months after the liposculpture so I was lucky the 24/7 compression and liposculpture worked so I could cancel the mini thigh lift.
But my facial skin is much thinner and must have less collagen than my thighs so even wearing a head bandage was not enough as no one can keep it on 24/7 for months.
In my opinion there may be no point in getting a facelift or full face fat graft without steroids unless one has remarkable skin elasticity and collagen.
I didn't need 5 face fat transfers after all. I just needed postop steroids or a facelift earlier to stop the cycle and to maintain the fat with increased fat and protein in my diet.
I think if you are postmenopause with poor skin elasticity and less collagen, it may become essential to only get facial fat graft or facelift with steroids. No wonder Dr Ben Talei, Dr Amir Karam and Dr Andrew Jacono all give their facelift patients steroids. Top facelift surgeons know how important it is to reduce skin stretch with steroids.
Even my upper thigh skin got loose with multiple thigh liposuctions and I even booked a mini thigh lift, but I wore 24/7 tights/leggings for months after the liposculpture so I was lucky the 24/7 compression and liposculpture worked so I could cancel the mini thigh lift.
But my facial skin is much thinner and must have less collagen than my thighs so even wearing a head bandage was not enough as no one can keep it on 24/7 for months.
In my opinion there may be no point in getting a facelift or full face fat graft without steroids unless one has remarkable skin elasticity and collagen.
I didn't need 5 face fat transfers after all. I just needed postop steroids or a facelift earlier to stop the cycle and to maintain the fat with increased fat and protein in my diet.
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Today I meet a Brit Hong Kong TPF friend who hasn't seen me f2f for over 3 years! His last assessment was that I had had too many facial fat transfers and should have stopped earlier. Even Dr Nick Rhodes suggested facial liposuction with his VR macs lift but I remembered that my sister had said she looked gaunt and much older after facial lipo and had fat put back in her face.
I need him to reassess my face today as over time fat reabsorbs a little and it has been 31 months since my final facial fat transfer. Plus I weigh only 95 lbs so hoping my face passes inspection especially after having facelifts. Let's hope I can have both a good face and good body instead of one or the other but not both at the same time. Wish me luck! I look different in mirrors, selfies, professional and digital cameras which fuels body dysmorphia so need an impartial person to honestly assess my face.
I need him to reassess my face today as over time fat reabsorbs a little and it has been 31 months since my final facial fat transfer. Plus I weigh only 95 lbs so hoping my face passes inspection especially after having facelifts. Let's hope I can have both a good face and good body instead of one or the other but not both at the same time. Wish me luck! I look different in mirrors, selfies, professional and digital cameras which fuels body dysmorphia so need an impartial person to honestly assess my face.
Yesterday's meet up was invaluable. I showed my tpf friend 3 photos of me taken at different distances from my phone and asked him which I most looked like and he chose number 1, the one in the car which I also felt looked most like me. Pic 2 then makes my face longer and thinner, my forehead bigger and my chin longer. Pic 3 makes my face look rounder and wider.
I then showed him professional photos of me with a fuller rounder face and he said no I did not look like that. What a relief! This echoed what a female friend had said in person too. My face must have bloated on dairy/fat from my lactose intolerance in the fuller photo? Or can a professional camera take bad angle photos? Or can even a professional camera lens have the same issues as a phone lens? I always thought just my tummy bloated like a watermelon when eating ice cream or scones with clotted cream or cake with cream cheese. Maybe with fat graft obtained from my tummy and thighs my face now has fat cells that are sensitive to a lactose/fat diet? The next question would be how soon after eating dairy will my face swell? Oh well it just means no ice cream or cake before photos if you are lactose intolerant.
He then got up and walked towards me from a distance to see if my face changed and it did not. Yet the phone camera does change the face at all distances! This is disconcerting which means the phone cam lens is not reliable. Yet there seems to be one distance between reading and arm's length that can capture your true likeness in a selfie!
At the end of the day it was good to know I looked like pic 1 and I did not have too much fat graft as I was right, some fat reabsorbs after 31 months. He told me I looked prettier without glasses. I still have a psychological hang up about not wearing glasses so for now I shall leave my varifocals on. I am now done with my plastic surgery journey. I have reached the end. Yay!!!
As for surgeons he recommends, forehead reduction by Dr Gregory Bran in the UK. His forehead was reduced by a couple of cms with no visible scar.
I also learned that Dream clinic is closest to Apgujeong station which means I must have passed it countless times! I have only visited ASPS, MVP and Fresh (furthest away) from the station.
I then showed him professional photos of me with a fuller rounder face and he said no I did not look like that. What a relief! This echoed what a female friend had said in person too. My face must have bloated on dairy/fat from my lactose intolerance in the fuller photo? Or can a professional camera take bad angle photos? Or can even a professional camera lens have the same issues as a phone lens? I always thought just my tummy bloated like a watermelon when eating ice cream or scones with clotted cream or cake with cream cheese. Maybe with fat graft obtained from my tummy and thighs my face now has fat cells that are sensitive to a lactose/fat diet? The next question would be how soon after eating dairy will my face swell? Oh well it just means no ice cream or cake before photos if you are lactose intolerant.
He then got up and walked towards me from a distance to see if my face changed and it did not. Yet the phone camera does change the face at all distances! This is disconcerting which means the phone cam lens is not reliable. Yet there seems to be one distance between reading and arm's length that can capture your true likeness in a selfie!
At the end of the day it was good to know I looked like pic 1 and I did not have too much fat graft as I was right, some fat reabsorbs after 31 months. He told me I looked prettier without glasses. I still have a psychological hang up about not wearing glasses so for now I shall leave my varifocals on. I am now done with my plastic surgery journey. I have reached the end. Yay!!!
As for surgeons he recommends, forehead reduction by Dr Gregory Bran in the UK. His forehead was reduced by a couple of cms with no visible scar.
I also learned that Dream clinic is closest to Apgujeong station which means I must have passed it countless times! I have only visited ASPS, MVP and Fresh (furthest away) from the station.
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I looked up Gregory Bran and wow! Take out your ruler or tape measure and measure your face to see if each part is in equal thirds. He has very impressive results for hairline lowering forehead reduction! Certainly an option instead of hair transplant if you have a big forehead? Hm I need to start measuring and pluck out any excess transplanted hairs to make my forehead look proportionate. https://gbaesthetics.com/photo-gallery-category/hairline-ba-1/
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I have noticed numerous ladies who have had facelifts end up going back on regular fillers and botox as the years go by. This may be because the face continues to lose fat and bone every year after menopause. This may also explain why Dr Amir Karam does facial fat transfer with his facelifts to address the loss of volume. This suggests that ladies who have facelifts postmenopause may need to consider addressing continuing volume loss with natural fat, fat transfer or fillers.
Can you share the name of the facebook group?Hi @Starry Eyes, thank you for your well wishes for my upcoming explant. You and I both have the same bmi! Dr John Burns does 360 degree whole body lipo to fill up breasts, ie arms, thighs, back, tummy etc. There is a fb group just on breast fat transfer with amazing b&a's and up to 14 month follow ups. One petite asian lady weighed only 94 lbs yet managed to get whole body lipo to give her d cups! But Burns costs $10k. Have you asked Fresh in korea if Dr Hong will take fat from your tummy for breast FT? I am thinking he will be cheaper than USA and if I wake up an A or AA, I shall be booking breast FT asap but keep forgetting it will be a struggle to find 400 ccs of fat from my used up thigh fat reserves and only bum and back fat left, oh and bat wing arms.
Now that HYS has gone back to black hair, I am thinking time to go back to dark but after all the hours in the salon and costs to go blonde, it would be a shame to darken just yet.
Thanks for the advice to go to the stylist for roots. I must say it is easier to do diy roots with a paintbrush and 2 mirrors. lol. Yes my girls say my hair looks very dry.
I have just been reading of yet another bii symptom....tooth decay!!! Yep 4 years ago out of the blue my 2 upper front teeth started aching and the dentist took an x ray that showed an abscess so he did 2 root canals at vast cost. The fb group of 58,000 ladies with bii keep reporting cracked teeth, needing 4 root canals, teeth extraction etc.! Then the latest research is root canal itself can trigger autoimmune disease as it often still contains necrotic tissue and bacteria! Some report being told to find a specialist dentist to carefully remove the root canal but then would need tooth extraction and a dental implant! And back to square one with a foreign implant! http://naturalsociety.com/how-root-...0IyZPSVS5hsjT0wsTcpKpSRSlYX0gjtVrd4LszTzhBn7g
Sometimes bii gets too much to bear but I am glad Crystal Hefner shared her bii story and explant as did many bloggers.
To cheer myself up I uploaded a free aging booth for fun to see what I would look like if I lived a century ago without access to fat graft, nasolabial radiesse filler, botox or hair dye! Brace yourself! Okay now I see why I get turned down for lower FL. Not quite there yet..
Fat transfer to the breast fb group or breast implant illness fb group.
Just to share my quotes received from Girin I am looking to look more youthful (important from someone in late 30s!)
- Elasticum Lifting 4mil kwn
- 7mm lateral canthoplasty (I am really keen with this) - 2.5mil kwn
- Full face fat graft 3.6mil
- 3types facial contouring - 15mil kwn
- Forehead lift 4mil kwn
- Non incisional ptosis correction double eyelid 2.25mil
Above before 30% discount.
Pictures from Girin looks good, especially the 7mm lateral cathoplasty, and the facial contouring results.
What do you think the above quoted prices (good value, too pricey?) and which procedures are great to do/good results @ Girin?
Thanks!
- Elasticum Lifting 4mil kwn
- 7mm lateral canthoplasty (I am really keen with this) - 2.5mil kwn
- Full face fat graft 3.6mil
- 3types facial contouring - 15mil kwn
- Forehead lift 4mil kwn
- Non incisional ptosis correction double eyelid 2.25mil
Above before 30% discount.
Pictures from Girin looks good, especially the 7mm lateral cathoplasty, and the facial contouring results.
What do you think the above quoted prices (good value, too pricey?) and which procedures are great to do/good results @ Girin?
Thanks!
That time to compare my face to my icon Han Ye Seul. Bear in mind I am 56 and she turns 42 this month. Looks like my nose is small and short compared to hers. I asked Dr Hyo Seok Seo to give me her eyes. Pretty good as I do not have fake eyelashes to match hers here.
This is a stark reminder why I do not recommend use of fillers in the forehead, sub brow, or temples. When women lose volume post menopause, get full face fat graft from a top plastic surgeon like Dr Amir Karam, Dr Hyo Seok Seo (who did mine), or Dr Hong of Fresh clinic.
She wanted to replace aging volume loss but one needs massive quantities and that can only be achieved with fat grafting. Only one surgeon in the entire US agreed to try to fix her face, Dr Brian Boyd who performed a 16 hour autologous forehead transplant. Although the forehead was repaired, her face never looked like her stunning before and she is sadly left with an unnatural face (see pic). Fillers are foreign substances which can get infected, rejected, migrate, etc. and there is even a warning that the mrna vaccine may cause dermal fillers to swell at their injection sites! Autologous fat is natural.
She wanted to replace aging volume loss but one needs massive quantities and that can only be achieved with fat grafting. Only one surgeon in the entire US agreed to try to fix her face, Dr Brian Boyd who performed a 16 hour autologous forehead transplant. Although the forehead was repaired, her face never looked like her stunning before and she is sadly left with an unnatural face (see pic). Fillers are foreign substances which can get infected, rejected, migrate, etc. and there is even a warning that the mrna vaccine may cause dermal fillers to swell at their injection sites! Autologous fat is natural.
Woman is left blind in one eye and disfigured by botched fillers
Carol Bryan, 54, from Florida was left hideously disfigured after botched dermal fillers made her blind in one eye and caused her forehead to collapse.
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