How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

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That's terrible he did without asking you. I had to do a crown as I had to do a root canal, I too remember being shocked when I looked in the mirror and saw my molar had been whittled down to a tiny stub. BTW your teeth look great! I still my have natural teeth aside from the crown, they are definitely not as white as yours given I drink so much coffee and tea! Also your gums look great, mine are receded from having braces before.

Regarding the cost of dental care, even with insurance some of the major procedures can be expensive out of pocket here in the US as well. Does anyone have experience with dental work in Korea? I'm curious how the standards are there and how much you would save if any versus getting the work done locally.
@Gats, my teeth are unnaturally white and look like dentures in real life. I wish I had chosen a more natural colour for the veneers, maybe off white? I chose the highest white colour on the chart! lol. Sorry you had a crown and root canal. You are fortunate you only have one crown to keep an eye on in future.
 
@Gats, my teeth are unnaturally white and look like dentures in real life. I wish I had chosen a more natural colour for the veneers, maybe off white? I chose the highest white colour on the chart! lol. Sorry you had a crown and root canal. You are fortunate you only have one crown to keep an eye on in future.
I've always admired your veneer work actually! They did an excellent job with customizing your teeth shape; it's very feminine and compliment your lip shape really nicely. (Unlike many who get veneers in the UK and somehow all end up with the same long horsey tooth shape - I'm honestly not trying to be insulting,; I just don't know how else to describe the phenomenon, and it looks distractingly unnatural...do they all go to the same cosmetic dentists, or if is this a standard teaching practice in Veneers 101 in UK dental schools or what?) But anyhow they look lovely on you. In the US that shade of white wouldn't be considered 'unnaturally white' at all, haha. I've seen much, much egregiously worse by people in the public eye.

I had Zoom whitening twice years ago because I could never get the Crest Whitestrips to stick on my lower teeth quite right, so there was a discrepancy in shades between upper and lower. My personal opinion? Waste of money. Although the first time was funny as there was an observer shadowing - I picked the whitest color on the tooth chart & she was like 'I want that next!' :D Personally I stick with Crest Whitestrips (the technology has evolved by leaps and bounds) which work just as well, are far more cost-effective and less painful! (I also recommend the Crest 3D White toothpaste for stain removal especially if you drink coffee, tea or wine...I try to use a straw whenever possible for cold liquids but that's not always feasible! If your teeth are too sensitive for whitestrips, many brands sell hydrogen peroxide gels in tubes which you add to your toothpaste. definitely makes a difference!)

After a minor car accident my front teeth began to shift (I had orthodontics as a kid so my teeth might've shifted anyway after 20=odd years, this just accelerated the process), and I'd just started to look into Invisalign when the pandemic hit. Fast forward 2+ years and I have a gap between my teeth, which may look winsome and charming on a younger person but really doesn't fly in a professional environment. :( I'm really dreading Invisalign since it's such a pain wearing the retainers all the time - particularly if you have the clear 'dots' in the front teeth! Better than conventional braces I suppose...
I had a root canal + molar crown (white gold with a porcelain overlay I think?) after BITING A HOLE IN MY MOLAR after crunching on a holiday hard toffee candy. As in you could see the gum in the hole :( Luckily I got to an excellent dentist who referred me to an endodontist. I was frightened as one always hears horror stories of root canals & the pain... but she was great. The only issue was that I had tea-colored antibiotic dripping out of my nose for 48 hours after, as the hole in the tooth had perforated into the sinuses! (Which is why sometimes if you have a sinus infection your upper row of teeth may hurt - it's all connected.) That was well over a decade ago and no problems since; the dentist is now one of the official dentists for a major US sports team where the players are constantly getting dental injuries. He specialises in cosmetic dentistry, so I'm going to make a consult with him for Invisalign.

The experience you had with the dentist who began doing root canals/crown without informed consent sounds nightmarish :( And an abscess and a dodgy doctor fleeing the country too!! OMG. I'm sorry that happened to you and so glad the situation got fixed beautifully!

@Gats for midface sag / nasolabial folds I've seen some great results with filler placed in the temple region or upper cheek to lift the face as an alternative to filler in midface/nasolabial. It's unlikely that a tiny amount in midface with a thin HA filler shouldn't give you the dreaded pouchy mouth effect as long as you don't make a crazy habit of it!

@Fraulein I'm glad to have found you on Kakao :) I hope we can chat soon (I was inordinately busy recently!); you're always so considerate, knowledgable and courteous (seems to be a commonality with people on this forum!) and also I just think you're neat :) Plus there are some things re stuff you've mentioned about your PS goals, Korean/Cali PS, and some possible recommendations etc which I don't feel comfortable sharing on the forum (yes, I am a scaredy-cat).

oh! I almost forgot! @MissOrange, beautiful as always - wishing you the best with your continued FL progress; your face looks youthful AND gorgeous - and I absolutely LOVED the red dress you wore at your daughter's wedding (congrats to her btw!) you styled it absolutely stunningly! Thank you for sharing your knowledge so openly (this goes for @K Couture as well; your detailed writeups and genuine personality are invaluable) - it's wonderful and awfully kind how people are willing to help each other by contributing what they have learnt, whilst being honest about the good and the bad of their experiences.
 
I've always admired your veneer work actually! They did an excellent job with customizing your teeth shape; it's very feminine and compliment your lip shape really nicely. (Unlike many who get veneers in the UK and somehow all end up with the same long horsey tooth shape - I'm honestly not trying to be insulting,; I just don't know how else to describe the phenomenon, and it looks distractingly unnatural...do they all go to the same cosmetic dentists, or if is this a standard teaching practice in Veneers 101 in UK dental schools or what?) But anyhow they look lovely on you. In the US that shade of white wouldn't be considered 'unnaturally white' at all, haha. I've seen much, much egregiously worse by people in the public eye.

I had Zoom whitening twice years ago because I could never get the Crest Whitestrips to stick on my lower teeth quite right, so there was a discrepancy in shades between upper and lower. My personal opinion? Waste of money. Although the first time was funny as there was an observer shadowing - I picked the whitest color on the tooth chart & she was like 'I want that next!' :biggrin: Personally I stick with Crest Whitestrips (the technology has evolved by leaps and bounds) which work just as well, are far more cost-effective and less painful! (I also recommend the Crest 3D White toothpaste for stain removal especially if you drink coffee, tea or wine...I try to use a straw whenever possible for cold liquids but that's not always feasible! If your teeth are too sensitive for whitestrips, many brands sell hydrogen peroxide gels in tubes which you add to your toothpaste. definitely makes a difference!)

After a minor car accident my front teeth began to shift (I had orthodontics as a kid so my teeth might've shifted anyway after 20=odd years, this just accelerated the process), and I'd just started to look into Invisalign when the pandemic hit. Fast forward 2+ years and I have a gap between my teeth, which may look winsome and charming on a younger person but really doesn't fly in a professional environment. :sad: I'm really dreading Invisalign since it's such a pain wearing the retainers all the time - particularly if you have the clear 'dots' in the front teeth! Better than conventional braces I suppose...
I had a root canal + molar crown (white gold with a porcelain overlay I think?) after BITING A HOLE IN MY MOLAR after crunching on a holiday hard toffee candy. As in you could see the gum in the hole :sad: Luckily I got to an excellent dentist who referred me to an endodontist. I was frightened as one always hears horror stories of root canals & the pain... but she was great. The only issue was that I had tea-colored antibiotic dripping out of my nose for 48 hours after, as the hole in the tooth had perforated into the sinuses! (Which is why sometimes if you have a sinus infection your upper row of teeth may hurt - it's all connected.) That was well over a decade ago and no problems since; the dentist is now one of the official dentists for a major US sports team where the players are constantly getting dental injuries. He specialises in cosmetic dentistry, so I'm going to make a consult with him for Invisalign.

The experience you had with the dentist who began doing root canals/crown without informed consent sounds nightmarish :sad: And an abscess and a dodgy doctor fleeing the country too!! OMG. I'm sorry that happened to you and so glad the situation got fixed beautifully!

@Gats for midface sag / nasolabial folds I've seen some great results with filler placed in the temple region or upper cheek to lift the face as an alternative to filler in midface/nasolabial. It's unlikely that a tiny amount in midface with a thin HA filler shouldn't give you the dreaded pouchy mouth effect as long as you don't make a crazy habit of it!

@Fraulein I'm glad to have found you on Kakao :smile: I hope we can chat soon (I was inordinately busy recently!); you're always so considerate, knowledgable and courteous (seems to be a commonality with people on this forum!) and also I just think you're neat :smile: Plus there are some things re stuff you've mentioned about your PS goals, Korean/Cali PS, and some possible recommendations etc which I don't feel comfortable sharing on the forum (yes, I am a scaredy-cat).

oh! I almost forgot! @MissOrange, beautiful as always - wishing you the best with your continued FL progress; your face looks youthful AND gorgeous - and I absolutely LOVED the red dress you wore at your daughter's wedding (congrats to her btw!) you styled it absolutely stunningly! Thank you for sharing your knowledge so openly (this goes for @K Couture as well; your detailed writeups and genuine personality are invaluable) - it's wonderful and awfully kind how people are willing to help each other by contributing what they have learnt, whilst being honest about the good and the bad of their experiences.
Thanks Sanarae. Just so you know I responded to you on Kakao in case you need to reach out.
 
Looks like my eyelid surgeon is famous in Korea now! Dr Seo has been on sbs and his Machimpyo youtube videos get more views than my blog! I feel so privileged to have had the best eyelid surgeon sort out my old eyes with revision des with lid fat graft!

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Miss Orange, great that you are still active in this forum, after doing double eyelids and power V surgeries, I plan to go to Seoul again for facial contouring, I'm in my late 30s, I tot want to go to TLPS which I had my Power V done nevertheless it was closed and I had already paid booking for around USD:400. TLPS transferred me to Saekim the consultant claimed that Dr. Choi moved to Saekim, now I lost contact with the consultant...I don't know what happens to Saekim, do u know about Saekim?
 
I sent my photos to Dr Dongman Park via messenger on IG and instead of a detailed assessment, I got a banal response to come to Korea after the pandemic was over. Doesn’t sound like they showed Dr Park. I was asking how long after smas plication could I then get Dr Park’s extended smasectomy? Whether he had a free revision policy for up to a year? What his opinion was of my current face. Sigh. The pandemic is over in the UK. Is it still going on in Korea? I thought foreigners could now enter without quarantine?

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I have the same experience. They didn't respond to me email neither:(
 
Miss Orange, great that you are still active in this forum, after doing double eyelids and power V surgeries, I plan to go to Seoul again for facial contouring, I'm in my late 30s, I tot want to go to TLPS which I had my Power V done nevertheless it was closed and I had already paid booking for around USD:400. TLPS transferred me to Saekim the consultant claimed that Dr. Choi moved to Saekim, now I lost contact with the consultant...I don't know what happens to Saekim, do u know about Saekim?
Wow @Moon88 I had no idea TLPS closed. They do extreme facial contouring. No, I do not know anything about Saekim. I would recommend Girin for facial contouring.
 
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@MissOrange I read that you had liposuction years and years ago. I'm going to Korea in the full for full body - might you have any advice?
Full body lipo may be too extreme in one go for your body to heal. Lipo can cause a lot of pain and discomfort for weeks. One girl had extreme lower body lipo from Ruby clinic in Korea with great results. When I had lower body lipo for my breast fat transfer it felt like I had been battered after the GA wore off. The pain went on and on and I could not sleep on my back or side. But it was worth it in the end. No pain, no gain.
 
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Full body lipo may be too extreme in one go for your body to heal. Lipo can cause a lot of pain and discomfort for weeks. One girl had extreme lower body lipo from Ruby clinic in Korea with great results. When I had lower body lipo for my breast fat transfer it felt like I had been battered after the GA wore off. The pain went on and on and I could not sleep on my back or side. But it was worth it in the end. No pain, no gain.
Gosh.. good to think about. Thanks!!
 
Full body lipo may be too extreme in one go for your body to heal. Lipo can cause a lot of pain and discomfort for weeks. One girl had extreme lower body lipo from Ruby clinic in Korea with great results. When I had lower body lipo for my breast fat transfer it felt like I had been battered after the GA wore off. The pain went on and on and I could not sleep on my back or side. But it was worth it in the end. No pain, no gain.
Hi @MissOrange do you have any tips for reducing swelling after facial fat transfer?
 
Hi @MissOrange do you have any tips for reducing swelling after facial fat transfer?
Hi @astrid0216, in hindsight I wish I had taken steroids post facial fat transfer to prevent the monster swelling, made worse by flying back home from Korea 2 days after the fat transfer. I used head compression, arnica for the bruises, drank pineapple juice, wore an ice pack but at the end of the day, any swelling becomes loose skin when some of the fat reabsorbs.
 
I took selfies today at reading distance which is most realistic at just over 6 months postop....one lying down ie zero gravity and one standing. Both look good. I stopped hrt as a friend was diagnosed with breast cancer in March and thinks it was due to the hrt. I can sign off on Nick Rhodes as a great facelift surgeon but get ahold of 5 days of prednisolone from a private GP if your surgeon does not prescribe. Swelling = sagging skin.

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