How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

[MissOrange]

Have now dolled up. Yay what a difference! Love the v line. Now why didn't I do this sooner? Who gets their first FL at 55! lol.

 

[MissOrange]

@MissOrange , thank you sooo much for posting the video. I love it!! I must say other than the obvious fact that you're super young looking, your skin is amaaaazing!! What skincare do you use please?

Hi @Lien here is a photo of my skincare. It is literally 2 things....clinique facial scrub instead of soap and lidl's cien moisturising cream with Q10 and collagen. Another tip is to ask for doxycycline as your postop antibiotic as it prevents postop skin infections and treats acne! Not that I have acne but it seems to give me amazing skin after a week's postop use.

 

[MissOrange]

Its not so much the Macs lift that has this complication. Its more when its performed using the vertical vector since this technique seeks to manipulate additional tissue planes. Ah thats a good point actually. Excessive facial stretching can further increase the risk of suture tearing.

And yeh for the type of lifting you had it usually lasts 5 years. But I believe because you seem to have good tissue structure it should last longer. I was told by my facelift surgeon that ulthera helps increase the longevity of a lift but i just cbf doing it because I never notice much (if any)difference each time i do it. Mine was a smas lift and i actually requested mine to be pulled horizontally from the malar region deliberately because I know the smas lift can cause a slanty eye effect for people with more anterior projection like myself. My scars are not visible in the slightest though because it was done within the hairline not at (in front of). I opted for that because I wanted a lift that lasts 10 years and up since knowing myself, the moment i notice any sign of sagging i will rush to do something. And while repeated facelifts is fine, the incision site and form thicking scars the more you do it which could be difficult to conceal. Im such a junky the other day I counted I've literally done like 21 lots of surgeries over the years Sheessssh. Once the quarantine is no longer required ima fly to korea to do a forehead lift, not because Im sagging there but because my eyebrows are naturally lower, giving me resting betch face -_-/

I know Dr lee in Korea does the deep planes. Crazy expensive prices. A friend of mine paid like 25k-30k usd i believe to do it with similar results to a smas. She was kinda pissed after but at least she looks good now. Actually Mendelson who is a facelift master himself is also retiring by mid next year. Dude is ancient now too lol. He was meant to retire last year but due to covid he decided to extend it.

All the best with your recovery x

Wow @K Couture, you are younger than I am and have had so much done. When I heard the world record was 50, I counted up my ops and am too embarrassed to declare the total! lol. To be fair half were complications like implant ruptures, leaks or infections.

I see your point about the vertical vector pulling through more planes. I like how Dr Amir Karam opts for the vertical vector but I can't afford US prices. You were wise to get a smas FL as yes they last a decade. After the threads fright face, I wanted to try a mini FL in case I didn't like the results. I couldn't face being stuck with an overpulled face for a decade!

I shall wait to my 60s to try a full smas lift or deep plane but won't spend more than $15k.

A lot of my kakao friends are dying to know what you look like as you are quite the icon in this forum! Hopefully one day we shall all see your amazing reveal. x

 

[Lien]

Hi @Lien here is a photo of my skincare. It is literally 2 things....clinique facial scrub instead of soap and lidl's cien moisturising cream with Q10 and collagen. Another tip is to ask for doxycycline as your postop antibiotic as it prevents postop skin infections and treats acne! Not that I have acne but it seems to give me amazing skin after a week's postop use.

Clinique facial scrub, huh? I will try that. I've yet to find a cleanser that I like. I used to have one but they discontinued it.

Cien Vitality Regenerative Day Cream? Do you not use a separate eye cream?

I can't believe your skincare routine is so simple! You must be blessed with amazing genes.

 

[harlequindolly]

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[Hautelady]

Its not so much the Macs lift that has this complication. Its more when its performed using the vertical vector since this technique seeks to manipulate additional tissue planes. Ah thats a good point actually. Excessive facial stretching can further increase the risk of suture tearing.

And yeh for the type of lifting you had it usually lasts 5 years. But I believe because you seem to have good tissue structure it should last longer. I was told by my facelift surgeon that ulthera helps increase the longevity of a lift but i just cbf doing it because I never notice much (if any)difference each time i do it. Mine was a smas lift and i actually requested mine to be pulled horizontally from the malar region deliberately because I know the smas lift can cause a slanty eye effect for people with more anterior projection like myself. My scars are not visible in the slightest though because it was done within the hairline not at (in front of). I opted for that because I wanted a lift that lasts 10 years and up since knowing myself, the moment i notice any sign of sagging i will rush to do something. And while repeated facelifts is fine, the incision site and form thicking scars the more you do it which could be difficult to conceal. Im such a junky the other day I counted I've literally done like 21 lots of surgeries over the years Sheessssh. Once the quarantine is no longer required ima fly to korea to do a forehead lift, not because Im sagging there but because my eyebrows are naturally lower, giving me resting betch face -_-/

I know Dr lee in Korea does the deep planes. Crazy expensive prices. A friend of mine paid like 25k-30k usd i believe to do it with similar results to a smas. She was kinda pissed after but at least she looks good now. Actually Mendelson who is a facelift master himself is also retiring by mid next year. Dude is ancient now too lol. He was meant to retire last year but due to covid he decided to extend it.

All the best with your recovery x

Omg @K Couture (I got notified you’re active here, your fan obviously). I think I need that QO fill, can I pm you on which clinic you got it? Since you got the SMAS FL inside the hairline, did it not kill like thousands of hair follicles? Thinning hair is already my problem, did you have to get hair transplant or PRP? Can you discuss on your facelift thread the different types of FL good for moon-face faces, and the types of browlifting PLEASE like I heard those that slices and pins to the upper brow bone?

@MissOrange , congrats on your worry-free FL recovery. Your nasolabial folds are gone. I read that you had your cheek fat pads removed , hence the extra skin.
Was that a major surgery or awake surgery?
And these fibrosis around threads, do they feel like lumps?

 

[K Couture]

Omg @K Couture (I got notified you’re active here, your fan obviously). I think I need that QO fill, can I pm you on which clinic you got it? Since you got the SMAS FL inside the hairline, did it not kill like thousands of hair follicles? Thinning hair is already my problem, did you have to get hair transplant or PRP? Can you discuss on your facelift thread the different types of FL good for moon-face faces, and the types of browlifting PLEASE like I heard those that slices and pins to the upper brow bone?

The clinic I did QO fill at no longer uses it. Not sure why though. But there's several other clinics that still use it. I wouldnt recommend it for anywhere other than the forehead though since its semi permanent despite being branded as a HA which can be dissolved. Obviously something else doing on with it lol.....I do know that filler is alot harder than Juvederm Restalyn as I could feel the granules whilst it was stabilizing in my forehead the first 3 days post injection.

I didn't lose much hair from the SMAS lift. Plus it was from the hairline at the back of the ear not the top of my head, which is what really matters. The hair i lost grew back anyway. I did another random procedure (not a lifting procedure to be clear) a year later where the scrub nurses used betamine to disinfect my hair. I was actually supermad when they did that because my procedure didn't even involve any incisions near the hair line! But at the time I didn't know it was betadine and they said its part of their protocol. They just said its a hair wash to disinfect so I didnt think much of it. It smelt awful though. And guess what? The betamine is so corrosive i lost about 30 percent of my hair the first 2 weeks post op. I had to use medication to regrow it and its still not back to what it used to be. I did my fair share of cussing at management I was incredibly angry. Ever since then any clinic i go to for surgery I've always warned them not to use betadine on me and clearly stated I do not consent to betadine being used. That's my way of being like, use that on me without my consent and I will make sure you are legally liable. Note that many clinics use that stuff to disinfect the patient's hair for certain procedures so you should definitely make sure before hand.

 

[MissOrange]

Omg @K Couture (I got notified you’re active here, your fan obviously). I think I need that QO fill, can I pm you on which clinic you got it? Since you got the SMAS FL inside the hairline, did it not kill like thousands of hair follicles? Thinning hair is already my problem, did you have to get hair transplant or PRP? Can you discuss on your facelift thread the different types of FL good for moon-face faces, and the types of browlifting PLEASE like I heard those that slices and pins to the upper brow bone?

@MissOrange , congrats on your worry-free FL recovery. Your nasolabial folds are gone. I read that you had your cheek fat pads removed , hence the extra skin.
Was that a major surgery or awake surgery?
And these fibrosis around threads, do they feel like lumps?

Hi @Hautelady, the extra skin was from 5 facial fat transfers (2 full and 3 top ups) that overfilled and stretched my face as they assume 50% will reabsorb, combined with the fact that the fat transfer then reabsorbed in the lower face each time as we move our mouths too much for it to stay put.

It was awake surgery under local and lasted 2.5 hours. I am still numb in front of my ears. Hope the sensation returns. I feel little lumps under the skin where the sutures pulling the smas are tied to the temporalis fascia at the top corner of my ears. If I yawn, I can feel the tightness in the temporalis fascia where the sutures are. This reassures me that the sutures are still intact. The pds sutures will dissolve in 180 days and be replaced by fibrosis so it is early days to notice any fibrosis which should start at 3 months.

 

[MissOrange]

The clinic I did QO fill at no longer uses it. Not sure why though. But there's several other clinics that still use it. I wouldnt recommend it for anywhere other than the forehead though since its semi permanent despite being branded as a HA which can be dissolved. Obviously something else doing on with it lol.....I do know that filler is alot harder than Juvederm Restalyn as I could feel the granules whilst it was stabilizing in my forehead the first 3 days post injection.

I didn't lose much hair from the SMAS lift. Plus it was from the hairline at the back of the ear not the top of my head, which is what really matters. The hair i lost grew back anyway. I did another random procedure (not a lifting procedure to be clear) a year later where the scrub nurses used betamine to disinfect my hair. I was actually supermad when they did that because my procedure didn't even involve any incisions near the hair line! But at the time I didn't know it was betadine and they said its part of their protocol. They just said its a hair wash to disinfect so I didnt think much of it. It smelt awful though. And guess what? The betamine is so corrosive i lost about 30 percent of my hair the first 2 weeks post op. I had to use medication to regrow it and its still not back to what it used to be. I did my fair share of cussing at management I was incredibly angry. Ever since then any clinic i go to for surgery I've always warned them not to use betadine on me and clearly stated I do not consent to betadine being used. That's my way of being like, use that on me without my consent and I will make sure you are legally liable. Note that many clinics use that stuff to disinfect the patient's hair for certain procedures so you should definitely make sure before hand.

Sorry to hear this @K Couture. Just say you are allergic to betadine. They can use chlorhexidine instead which is a milder surgical disinfectant in future.

 

[K Couture]

Hi @Hautelady, the extra skin was from 5 facial fat transfers (2 full and 3 top ups) that overfilled and stretched my face as they assume 50% will reabsorb, combined with the fact that the fat transfer then reabsorbed in the lower face each time as we move our mouths too much for it to stay put.

It was awake surgery under local and lasted 2.5 hours. I am still numb in front of my ears. Hope the sensation returns. I feel little lumps under the skin where the sutures pulling the smas are tied to the temporalis fascia at the top corner of my ears. If I yawn, I can feel the tightness in the temporalis fascia where the sutures are. This reassures me that the sutures are still intact. The pds sutures will dissolve in 180 days and be replaced by fibrosis so it is early days to notice any fibrosis which should start at 3 months.

whattttt you did it under local anesthesia? Miss thang................you are brave. I did a thread lift years ago under local and feeling the threads pull and grind at my tissues freaked me out, and thats minor to do with you did :O. Werent you scared?

 

[Lien]

@MissOrange , are you taking any collagen? I read with threads, you have to take collagen to help strengthen the "structure", or whatever the technical explantion is! lol

If you are, when do you take it, at what time period post-op and how much?

 

[MissOrange]

whattttt you did it under local anesthesia? Miss thang................you are brave. I did a thread lift years ago under local and feeling the threads pull and grind at my tissues freaked me out, and thats minor to do with you did :O. Werent you scared?

Hi @K Couture, yes I was scared for the first 5 minutes as the pain from the deep needles was excruciating and then came the pressure of the cannulas being tunnelled under my skin, followed by the gushing sound of tumescent fluid being poured into my face and later repeated for the other side. But once in the feeling and pain went. I kept saying no way can I do this again. It is like childbirth. Now he offers twilight iv sedation but that adds up to £3k to the cost.

 

[MissOrange]

@MissOrange , are you taking any collagen? I read with threads, you have to take collagen to help strengthen the "structure", or whatever the technical explantion is! lol

If you are, when do you take it, at what time period post-op and how much?

Hi @Lien, I had my threads removed next day last year. The FL was with pds absorbable sutures. No I don't take collagen.

 

[K Couture]

Hi @K Couture, yes I was scared for the first 5 minutes as the pain from the deep needles was excruciating and then came the pressure of the cannulas being tunnelled under my skin, followed by the gushing sound of tumescent fluid being poured into my face and later repeated for the other side. But once in the feeling and pain went. I kept saying no way can I do this again. It is like childbirth. Now he offers twilight iv sedation but that adds up to £3k to the cost.

omg that was the same with me when i did my threads lol. I was like....im a dumb ass for insisting on doing it without sedation when it was FREE haha

 

[Lien]

Hi @Lien, I had my threads removed next day last year. The FL was with pds absorbable sutures. No I don't take collagen.

Oh yes, you did say that. I forgot. My bad.

Thanks for responding, @MissOrange .

Btw, I am following you on IG.