Herve Leger = <3 Part Deux!

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Herve Leger should not feel constricting, contrary to popular belief, but it is supposed to be skin tight.
On a scale of 1-5, how hard was it to zip up the dress yourself? If it was a 1 or 2, then size down.
If you have a 26 inch waist, I would GUESS that you are an xs.


thanks for the response. i'd say it wasnt that hard to zip up the dress, maybe a 2-3. i may be 27" in the waist (probably in between a 26 and 27). would that make a big difference in the sizing? i also heard that the new herve dresses are sized a little differently now, such as XXS is replaced with XS, so i'm afraid the XS will be too small.
 
hellokitty,

The new Herve Legers are actually BIGGER, which sucks for people who used to wear xxs. I blame this on vanity sizing which happens to MANY brands over time.

For instance, the 2008 season xxs was usually about 20 inches around the smallest part of the waist when NOT stretched. Now, the current xxs are usually about 22 inches around the smallest part, not stretched!

On top of that, many stores like Intermix do not carry xxs anymore in stores because there is not enough demand for that size. The size still exists but is harder to find.

I tried on a HL xs in Intermix recently. It definitely ran bigger than the 2008 models. Like, about 24 inches unstretched around the smallest part of the waist. If you are 26-27 inches, I would suggest the xs.

I'm shorter than you with a 24 inch waist and the xxs in any season works best for me. These dresses are meant to stretch a good 4-6 inches at the waist, imo.
 
hellokitty,

I wanted to clear up one of my statements before. I realized that when you said older Herve LEger, you could be referring to vintage Herve Leger (1990's). If so, I really don't know how sizing runs for those. I only know about season 2008 to current.
 
hellokitty,

The new Herve Legers are actually BIGGER, which sucks for people who used to wear xxs. I blame this on vanity sizing which happens to MANY brands over time.

For instance, the 2008 season xxs was usually about 20 inches around the smallest part of the waist when NOT stretched. Now, the current xxs are usually about 22 inches around the smallest part, not stretched!

On top of that, many stores like Intermix do not carry xxs anymore in stores because there is not enough demand for that size. The size still exists but is harder to find.

I tried on a HL xs in Intermix recently. It definitely ran bigger than the 2008 models. Like, about 24 inches unstretched around the smallest part of the waist. If you are 26-27 inches, I would suggest the xs.

I'm shorter than you with a 24 inch waist and the xxs in any season works best for me. These dresses are meant to stretch a good 4-6 inches at the waist, imo.

thanks so much for your help bebefuzz! i was actually refering to the 2008 and prior HL dresses when i mentioned old HL dresses (didnt even think about the vintage, lol). your explaination about the size changes helped a lot. when you mentioned that HL dresses give a couple inches at the waist, is it actually better for the dress to stretch rather than be the same measurement as a person's waist? for example if a dress is 28 inches at the waist unstretched and the person has a 28 inch waist, would it better to size down to allow the dress to stretch for a more contouring fit? sorry for all the questions and if they sound confusing.
 
no no, not confusing at all.

So, it is WAY better when the dress stretches than if it just matches to your body measurements. Here are some photo examples:

First photo of Katy and Gisele (These are not tight enough, probably match body measurements but do not stretch the fabric much) :katy-gisele-herve-leger.jpg

THese photos are HL worn in the RIGHT way:
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I've heard Herve Leger being called "sex on heels" ... it's kinda true if worn the CORRECT way.

Herve Leger stretches everywhere, bust, waist, hips, it's supposed to look second skin.
The dress should be smaller than your body when it's laid flat and not stretched.

Many people ask for assistance when zipping up!
 
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^It would seem though that some of it is a matter of personal taste. Some women like their dresses skin-tight, while others like a little more "wiggle" room. Either way, I'd say that in general, the dresses are still pretty sexy:)
 
hellokitty,

The new Herve Legers are actually BIGGER, which sucks for people who used to wear xxs. I blame this on vanity sizing which happens to MANY brands over time.

For instance, the 2008 season xxs was usually about 20 inches around the smallest part of the waist when NOT stretched. Now, the current xxs are usually about 22 inches around the smallest part, not stretched!

On top of that, many stores like Intermix do not carry xxs anymore in stores because there is not enough demand for that size. The size still exists but is harder to find.

I tried on a HL xs in Intermix recently. It definitely ran bigger than the 2008 models. Like, about 24 inches unstretched around the smallest part of the waist. If you are 26-27 inches, I would suggest the xs.

I'm shorter than you with a 24 inch waist and the xxs in any season works best for me. These dresses are meant to stretch a good 4-6 inches at the waist, imo.

Actually, the Fall 2008 dresses were the anomaly; Fall '08 ran small compared to Resort 2007 & Spring 2008, which were the first two collections offered. Spring 2009 and onwards have been running in-line with R '07 & S '08.

May I ask which dresses you were referring to which measured 20" at the waist when laid flat? I'm usually an XXS and I just measured all 19 of my XXS dresses from every season, and they all measured at least 21" at the waist, laid flat without stetching . . . of course, this could be due to piggy's rotundity stretching them out :p

I would argue that stretching 4-6 inches at the waist is probably not required, otherwise all of my dresses are far too large for me! hehe . . . also, there is a point at which HL does become too tight, leading to an unfortunate allover muffin-topping effect! (>(oo)<)` For example, my measurements are 33" / 22.5" / 32.5" and I had to size up to XS in this Fall '08 dress because the XXS looked very . . . erm . . .bulgy (^(oo)^)
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oink oink oink! little piggy: incoming! (^(oo)^)/"

just wanted to pop in - as some of you may recall, piggy was desperately craving a long gown from the Spring 2009 collection . . . check! one more item crossed off the HG list (^(oo)^)

wore it this week to opening night at the SF Symphony:
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Gorgeous !!! I'm so happy you wore your hair up even though I LOVE your hair down I think with the long black gown it was a good choice to keep up :graucho:
 
I gotta agree... so I guess things should be personal taste.
I was just used to seeing it always super tight when worn on the runways.
I guess I must like it tighter than others. :)

Piggy,
My purple off shoulder mini from Fall 08 measures 9.5 inches across! I'm 98 lbs at 5'5" and it does not feel constricting at all. This one probably runs the smallest out of all the ones I have.
I have a lime xxs on Ebay that measures 10 inches across. I'm not sure what season it is...
Also, the one shoulder teal and black xxs is 10 inches across.
These all fit perfectly, no folds or anything at all. I've tried dresses in xxs and xs but my personal taste is xxs, tight, painted on look... lol
Lvpiggy, I could also be measuring it differently. 20 inches is very close to 21 inches....

I have two other ones but they measure larger across the waist. But, biggest is 11 inches across.

I don't have a huge collection like some of the girls here... can't find enough opportunities to wear them all. :(
btw, I'm pretty conservative and do not like my clothes super tight normally, just my HL for some reason. :thinkin:

lvpiggy, I envy your clothes collection and the fact that you have such a social life that allows you to wear them!
 
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