Hermès U.S.’ New President Diane Mahady on the Brand’s Love Affair With Retail

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Hermès U.S.’ New President Diane Mahady on the Brand’s Love Affair With Retail​


Jean E. Palmieri
Fri, June 16, 2023 at 1:00 AM EDT·7 min read


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Hermès has been on a tear lately, opening or refreshing retail stores in several cities around the U.S. The biggest statement came last fall when the French luxury brand took the wraps off a seven-story, 45,000-square-foot luxury emporium on New York’s Madison Avenue.

While the newest addition in Aspen, Colorado, which opens on Friday, may not be the same size or scope, it is nonetheless a reflection of the company’s ability to blend into a community while remaining true to a heritage that dates to 1837.

The new store, Hermès’ 34th in the U.S. and second in the state of Colorado, features carpets reminiscent of moss, gray-blue Aspen stone floors, honey-colored local larch wood on the staircase and a bay window that offers a panoramic view of the neighboring mountains. It was designed by the Parisian architectural firm RDAI and features 16 métiers, or departments.

The ground floor features men’s and women’s silk collections, fashion accessories, perfumes and beauty along with the brand’s signature leather goods. The mezzanine, which is designed to look like a cabinet of curiosities, offers the equestrian collections, and the second floor houses shoes, men’s and women’s ready-to-wear, jewelry and watches.

The shop is filled with original artworks including a piece from Jean-Luc Favéro dedicated to piebald horses from the Émile Hermès collection that stands next to a photograph by Yann Stofer titled Horse in the Snow. There’s also a winter scene drawn by George Barbier in the 1920s and a special window designed by Mexican artist Raul de Lara.

Overseeing the opening of this store and the rest of Hermès’ retail plans in the U.S. is Diane Mahady, who took over on April 1 as president of the American division, succeeding longtime chief Robert Chavez, who moved into a new role as executive chairman.
The Hermes store in Aspen.

The Hermès store in Aspen.

Mahady has a rich résumé that includes merchandising roles at Coach, Louis Vuitton, Zegna and Saks Fifth Avenue. She joined Hermès two years ago as executive vice president, working closely with Chavez, whom she said continues to consult on real estate and other issues. “He’s an amazing colleague and really built the brand here,” she said in the first interview since her promotion. “So it’s great to have him as a resource.”

She said that although Aspen may be viewed as a winter destination, it has evolved into a year-round resort community. “Post-COVID-19, we have found that people have more flexibility in the way they live and we think Aspen will be a terrific market for us.”

It’s also indicative of Hermès’ willingness to try unconventional locations. That was evident when it opened a store last year in Austin, Texas — not in a luxury mall but on Congress Street, known for its lively music and restaurant scene.

“Austin’s been terrific for us,” Malady said. “We have a very loyal client base and we’re really a destination. What we look for in a store location is something where you can really express the brand in the right way. No two stores are the same. Sometimes we look for more trafficked environments, sometimes we look for something hyperlocal. Austin was a new market for us. But we feel we’re more integrated in the community being in that location.”

Hermès is also working on a location in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn, New York, another spot filled with trendy, youth-oriented boutiques. Until the space is ready, the brand is operating in a temporary location, she said, that is intended to express that Hermès is “a super humble, fun brand,” she said. “Sometimes people have a different perception of the brand, so [it’s important] for us to be able to show that we’re warm and welcoming, and not so serious.”

Since she became president, Mahady said she’s been asked numerous times how she is going to make her mark on the business, a question she finds almost puzzling.

“Everyone asks what I’m going to change,” she said. “But this is not a brand that needs to be changed. It’s a very healthy business with a terrific familial culture and very high retention rates here in the U.S. We’ve had explosive growth in the last two years, so now it’s really about how we prepare the brand for the future and ensure we can continue to deliver the level of service that is fundamental to the brand.”

What is also fundamental to the brand is its retail stores. With the exception of a few categories such as fragrance, watches and some home products, Hermès no longer wholesales and sells directly to consumers through its fleet of more than 300 stores in 45 countries as well as online.

In the U.S., the company opened a store in Naples, Florida, in February, and is now focused on Aspen, a market Mahady said is “a natural market for us.” Next up will be a second store in the Los Angeles market in Topanga, where she said Hermès is “a little under-penetrated.” It is slated to open in July.

“The West Coast is very important to us, between Hawaii, Los Angeles, Las Vegas,” she said. “So to be able to serve as more clients in Los Angeles area with a second store made a lot of sense.” She said to “create some energy” around the opening, Hermès will host a special experiential event, the Wings of Hermès, that will be a mixture of poetry and cinema. It will be held in Santa Monica from July 15 to 23, just before the store opens.

Then the focus will turn to Chicago, which is getting a facelift. “It’s a great market for us. We’ve been there since 1990 and we’re in a temporary store right now because we’re expanding the store on Oak Street. We’re adding a third level, which allows us to have a VIP room with enhanced services.” That is expected to open at the end of October, she said, at which point Hermès will being its interactive exhibit, Hermès in the Making, to the city. That installation focuses on the artisans who create the brand’s products.

The final project of the year will be the store at the Bellagio hotel in Las Vegas, one of three in that city, that is being renovated and is expected to be completed in November.

“Each of our stores is very site specific,” she said. “So even though there are three stores in Vegas, they all have a very different personality, a different aesthetic, a different assortment.”

Looking ahead to next year, Mahady said Hermès will continue to invest in renovating some of its existing stores and opening others. A new unit is slated for Princeton, New Jersey, and the existing store in Atlanta is moving from Buckhead to the upscale Phipps Plaza.

Beyond that, Mahady said the company plans to add a couple of new stores in the U.S. annually, in combination with renovations. “We’re very deliberate in our rollout. It would need to be the right location in the right market.”

Turning to the U.S. flagship on Madison Avenue, she said sales have been “outperforming expectations” since the September opening. “We’re blessed to have a really diverse client base and there are a lot of great sales associates with loyal followings.” In addition, the design of the store, with comfortable seating areas throughout the interior and an outdoor garden, creates a “more residential feeling,” she contended. “Our clients like to spend the day with us. It’s an enjoyable experience, not transactional, and is really relationship building. We’re really happy with what we’ve been able to achieve here.”
Mahady said Hermès remains enamored with what can be achieved in physical locations.

“We love retail,” she said. “This is a sixth-generation brand and we control every aspect of the business. The average time we’ve worked with any of our suppliers is 20 years. People often talk about the scarcity of the brand, but it’s really because we’re maniacal about quality. That’s been our business model and will continue to be our business model. And in our own retail environment, we can most control it.”

So while the U.S. retail count is only about 10 percent of the global total, Mahady said there’s no rush to dramatically increase the number here.

“Part of the beauty of the brand is we’re selective in the distribution,” she said. “We don’t want to spread ourselves too thin. It’s still challenging for us to keep up from a production standpoint, so we want to ensure that the existing stores get the best experience possible without taking on too much.”
 
But this is not a brand that needs to be changed. It’s a very healthy business with a terrific familial culture and very high retention rates here in the U.S. We’ve had explosive growth in the last two years, so now it’s really about how we prepare the brand for the future and ensure we can continue to deliver the level of service that is fundamental to the brand.”

that Hermès is “a super humble, fun brand,” she said. “Sometimes people have a different perception of the brand, so [it’s important] for us to be able to show that we’re warm and welcoming

have a VIP room with enhanced services.

We’re very deliberate in our rollout.

So while the U.S. retail count is only about 10 percent of the global total, Mahady said there’s no rush to dramatically increase the number here.

“Part of the beauty of the brand is we’re selective in the distribution,”
Thank you for providing the article. It was most illuminating. IMO only it seems pretty clear that the premier luxury big brands really see growth potential from the top echelon, high net worth client somewhat to the exclusion of the majority (I lump myself in the latter group here) This strategy is not a surprise, and it has worked very well for Hermes, Chanel, and Dior, etc., especially post pandemic.

With respect to Madison Avenue, when she talks about the diversity of clientele, I would imagine she means that the current clientele is not limited to the traditional old money Hermes client, but rather it has broadened to include entrepreneurs, financiers, new money, with an emphasis upon those clients who have residences in NY. She does give a nod to the great SAs who have a loyal clientele, but those clients are not given top billing. Hermes also doesn’t seem to have any desire to increase distribution in the US. Perhaps this is bc, as we know from previous posts that contain financial info, the bulk of the companies profits still comes from Asia. There is sadly very little or no room for the new would be client who would like to start by saving up for a bag or a piece of RTW, but this is apparently the age of excess that we now inhabit.

The curious thing is, I don’t see any intention to wring quick profit out of this moneyed clientele. Rather, there is a sense of growing them slowly; making them feel at home; and presumably eventually entice them to spend. I also get the sense that Hermes envisioned Madison Avenue to epitomize a warm and fuzzy luxury H cocoon for the right clientele, where profit is almost an afterthought. (For a lucky few, FSH also has this cosy, fun vibe, and since the SAs there do not work on commission, there is really no pressure). The emphasis on luxury is a bit odd, given that the location already is bursting at the seams and lacking in dressing room accommodations (with SAs and clients banging on the door to check occupancy). The shoe area still cannot handle the demand; at peak times, it looks like an overcrowded department store. I do get the sense that for the right type of client (again not me), there is less focus on prespend, and more focus on getting to know clients who have the potential for significant future spend. So, for the right kind of client, Hermes is absolutely willing to work on a relationship, irrespective of spend. Just how I read it.

ETA: I still believe that chanel generally does dressing rooms better than Hermes. But, I was recently at Chanel during a crowded time and my favorite dressing room in the front wasn’t available. my SA opened a door hidden in a mirrored wall (that I assumed erroneously led to storage). We shoe horned ourselves into a tiny dressing room. It was like an airless closet, and I had never seen it before. Lol

ETA: basically hermes wants that select clientele, who was responsible for the ‘explosive growth’ post covid,
to feel at home :smile:
 
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Thank you for providing the article. It was most illuminating. IMO only it seems pretty clear that the premier luxury big brands really see growth potential from the top echelon, high net worth client somewhat to the exclusion of the majority (I lump myself in the latter group here) This strategy is not a surprise, and it has worked very well for Hermes, Chanel, and Dior, etc., especially post pandemic.

With respect to Madison Avenue, when she talks about the diversity of clientele, I would imagine she means that the current clientele is not limited to the traditional old money Hermes client, but rather it has broadened to include entrepreneurs, financiers, new money, with an emphasis upon those clients who have residences in NY. She does give a nod to the great SAs who have a loyal clientele, but those clients are not given top billing. Hermes also doesn’t seem to have any desire to increase distribution in the US. Perhaps this is bc, as we know from previous posts that contain financial info, the bulk of the companies profits still comes from Asia. There is sadly very little or no room for the new would be client who would like to start by saving up for a bag or a piece of RTW, but this is apparently the age of excess that we now inhabit.

The curious thing is, I don’t see any intention to wring quick profit out of this moneyed clientele. Rather, there is a sense of growing them slowly; making them feel at home; and presumably eventually entice them to spend. I also get the sense that Hermes envisioned Madison Avenue to epitomize a warm and fuzzy luxury H cocoon for the right clientele, where profit is almost an afterthought. (For a lucky few, FSH also has this cosy, fun vibe, and since the SAs there do not work on commission, there is really no pressure). The emphasis on luxury is a bit odd, given that the location already is bursting at the seams and lacking in dressing room accommodations (with SAs and clients banging on the door to check occupancy). The shoe area still cannot handle the demand; at peak times, it looks like an overcrowded department store. I do get the sense that for the right type of client (again not me), there is less focus on prespend, and more focus on getting to know clients who have the potential for significant future spend. So, for the right kind of client, Hermes is absolutely willing to work on a relationship, irrespective of spend. Just how I read it.

ETA: I still believe that chanel generally does dressing rooms better than Hermes. But, I was recently at Chanel during a crowded time and my favorite dressing room in the front wasn’t available. my SA opened a door hidden in a mirrored wall (that I assumed erroneously led to storage). We shoe horned ourselves into a tiny dressing room. It was like an airless closet, and I had never seen it before. Lol

ETA: basically hermes wants that select clientele, who was responsible for the ‘explosive growth’ post covid,
to feel at home :smile:
Do you think the added capacity in manufacturing will make a difference? It doesn’t sound like it but I’d like to hope….
 
Part of the beauty of the brand is we’re selective in the distribution,” she said. “We don’t want to spread ourselves too thin. It’s still challenging for us to keep up from a production standpoint, so we want to ensure that the existing stores get the best experience possible without taking on too much.”

People often talk about the scarcity of the brand, but it’s really because we’re maniacal about quality. That’s been our business model and will continue to be our business model. And in our own retail environment, we can most control it.”

Do you think the added capacity in manufacturing will make a difference? It doesn’t sound like it but I’d like to hope….
It sounds like Hermes will keep a careful rein on manufacturing capacity or distribution. I know VIPs (I am not one of them) who don’t have problems getting coveted bags, and the QB limit doesn’t seem to apply. But, I don’t know how that affects the average customer. JMO
 
It will be interesting to see how they balance the explosive growth with the long term clientele that don’t spend as much in the short term. Even clientele that at longer term, loyal and have high non VIP spend consistently over years aren’t a priority anymore. Favouring the new very high spend clients only works for the long term if they can be keep those clients spending and turn them into longer term customers or have new high net worth clients to replace them. There’s just not enough product to go around for everyone these days.
 
It sounds like Hermes will keep a careful rein on manufacturing capacity or distribution. I know VIPs (I am not one of them) who don’t have problems getting coveted bags, and the QB limit doesn’t seem to apply. But, I don’t know how that affects the average customer. JMO
They’re going to have keep expanding manufacturing capacity if they stick to their plan of continuing to open several new stores a year. They can’t even supply the stores they do have right now.
 
They’re going to have keep expanding manufacturing capacity if they stick to their plan of continuing to open several new stores a year. They can’t even supply the stores they do have right now.
I suppose it depends on what you mean by "supply the stores they do have right now". If "selected distribution" and "in our own retail environment, we can most control [scarcity]" means there's simply a (very) limited clientele that H chooses to serve, then perhaps the increase in manufacturing capability is really intended to meet the narrow demand that H views is most important to their long-term success. If you're outside H's ideal demographic, well, then :shrugs: buy some lipstick and be glad you're getting anything. (That's me being snarky mostly because none of this is a real surprise if I'm being honest with myself.)
 
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I suppose it depends on what you mean by "supply the stores they do have right now". If "selected distribution" and "in our own retail environment, we can most control [scarcity]" means there's simply a (very) limited clientele that H chooses to serve, then perhaps the increase in manufacturing capability is really intended to meet the narrow demand that H views is most important to their long-term success. If you're outside H's ideal demographic, well, then :shrugs: buy some lipstick and be glad you're getting anything. (That's me being snarky mostly because none of this is a real surprise if I'm being honest with myself.)
I was referring to walking in to H stores and seeing only one bag on display. I was traveling in Asia pre-Covid when I walked into this H with a single bag on display. If they don’t even have enough stock to put on a decent display, why are they even open?
 
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I was referring to walking in to H stores and seeing only one bag on display. I was traveling in Asia pre-Covid when I walked into this H with a single bag on display. If they don’t even have enough stock to put on a decent display, why are they even open?
The hard-hearted answer is that they're open to serve the clientele they're pursuing. There's 'display' now, and there will be more when capacity is marginally increased, the question is who's getting to look? There are plenty of stories about what's actually in the 'back room' and who gets to see it, and apparently that's not Everybody, and by design. Again, I'm not sure this is substantially different from what any of the seasoned OG's in this forum would say/have said in many threads on the topic of 'how can I get/why can't I get a coveted bag'.

The news flash if you will, is the subtle but expressed view of H management on the subject of their target demographic in the US market. As best as I can tell these objectives line up worldwide, but if the US is only about 10% of the market, the application of this strategy doesn't appear to hold much promise for the average customer on the whole. JMO, and I do believe that individual experiences will vary but I'm not optimistic that we'll be back to extensive bag displays in the boutiques anytime soon, and there will continue to be 'limits' (wink, wink) on things.
 
The hard-hearted answer is that they're open to serve the clientele they're pursuing. There's 'display' now, and there will be more when capacity is marginally increased, the question is who's getting to look? There are plenty of stories about what's actually in the 'back room' and who gets to see it, and apparently that's not Everybody, and by design. Again, I'm not sure this is substantially different from what any of the seasoned OG's in this forum would say/have said in many threads on the topic of 'how can I get/why can't I get a coveted bag'.

The news flash if you will, is the subtle but expressed view of H management on the subject of their target demographic in the US market. As best as I can tell these objectives line up worldwide, but if the US is only about 10% of the market, the application of this strategy doesn't appear to hold much promise for the average customer on the whole. JMO, and I do believe that individual experiences will vary but I'm not optimistic that we'll be back to extensive bag displays in the boutiques anytime soon, and there will continue to be 'limits' (wink, wink) on things.
I’m not questioning the strategy of putting for display only signs on bags in the cases, etc. That’s been going on in many H stores around the world for years. I was sorry to see it become the policy at new Madison also but that policy ties in with holding stock mainly for their targeted clientele. What I am questioning is not having enough stock to put on a decent display. Even if I know there’s stock being held in back rooms for targeted clients and that most of the “good” stuff is hidden away, I do expect some decent eye candy for me to look at whenever I enter a luxury brand‘s store, whether it be H, Chanel, etc. Having a single neutral color Evelyne on display does not make me want to enter that store. If they are trying to give their top clients a pleasurable experience, I would think that surrounding them with beautiful things would contribute mightily to the whole experience. They could have stuff from H archives that clearly aren’t for sale but would be unique items or things with an interesting history. Anything to make the store look alive and interesting.
 
The hard-hearted answer is that they're open to serve the clientele they're pursuing. There's 'display' now, and there will be more when capacity is marginally increased, the question is who's getting to look? There are plenty of stories about what's actually in the 'back room' and who gets to see it, and apparently that's not Everybody, and by design. Again, I'm not sure this is substantially different from what any of the seasoned OG's in this forum would say/have said in many threads on the topic of 'how can I get/why can't I get a coveted bag'.

The news flash if you will, is the subtle but expressed view of H management on the subject of their target demographic in the US market. As best as I can tell these objectives line up worldwide, but if the US is only about 10% of the market, the application of this strategy doesn't appear to hold much promise for the average customer on the whole. JMO, and I do believe that individual experiences will vary but I'm not optimistic that we'll be back to extensive bag displays in the boutiques anytime soon, and there will continue to be 'limits' (wink, wink) on things.
I assume those "display only" are originated from old days "reservé" (wink wink) ?
 
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I’m not questioning the strategy of putting for display only signs on bags in the cases, etc. That’s been going on in many H stores around the world for years. I was sorry to see it become the policy at new Madison also but that policy ties in with holding stock mainly for their targeted clientele. What I am questioning is not having enough stock to put on a decent display. Even if I know there’s stock being held in back rooms for targeted clients and that most of the “good” stuff is hidden away, I do expect some decent eye candy for me to look at whenever I enter a luxury brand‘s store, whether it be H, Chanel, etc. Having a single neutral color Evelyne on display does not make me want to enter that store. If they are trying to give their top clients a pleasurable experience, I would think that surrounding them with beautiful things would contribute mightily to the whole experience. They could have stuff from H archives that clearly aren’t for sale but would be unique items or things with an interesting history. Anything to make the store look alive and interesting.
I agree that they should make more of an effort to fill the shelves rather than leave them bare (not looking for that ‘Store Liqudation Sale’ look to satisfy my hankering for a little luxury shopping). I would love it if the boutiques had more vintage pieces (bags or other items) on display; it’s one of the wonderful things about FSH. I actually like waiting for the elevator on the fourth floor at Madison because there are some lovely examples of heritage leather bags in the opposite display case. More please :yes:
 
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