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Left to right: Corail Aqua, then Rouge Casaque Satin and Matte. The Corail is more, well, coral
Thank you! Do you find the transparent one worth it as a base or do you use something else?
Geez drool! So stunning. May I ask, how'd you get one? Did you have to put your name in with your SA in advance since they were LE?
Thanks for the input on the satins. Can anyone else chime in on encouraging a satin to last (not through a meal or heavy drinking, just through normal talking, sips of water etc.)
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I also have Rouge H in matte, as well as two other H mattes. Although mine aren't nearly as bumpy as yours, they also aren't completely smooth. I assume the dots are unblended pigment, but I'm not a cosmetic scientist.
I will say (I should post this in 'unpopular H opinions' threads, that I think the H lipsticks are really poorly formulated compared to other lipsticks at that pricepoint, but I admit to being a lipstick snob with a pretty outrageous pattern of testing, trial and error with different brands. Ultimately I've allowed a few H lipsticks to stay in my collection for the packaging and colours and, in the case of Rouge H, the 'heritage' of that colour, but I won't be buying any more.Thank you for your input. I tried a couple of other mattes and they didn't have bumps like this one does... to be fair though, I didn't like those colors so only tried them a few times whereas this one I've applied maybe 10+ times... perhaps the "bumpies" don't come out until more of the pristine surface is worn away? In any case, it still seems like it shouldn't be like this for the price, esp. when it makes application less smooth. I've ordered a satin of Rouge H and will see how that works. I love the object itself so applying is actually really pleasurable, enough so that I'm converted to daily wear despite not ever previously wearing lipstick with any regularity!I also have Rouge H in matte, as well as two other H mattes. Although mine aren't nearly as bumpy as yours, they also aren't completely smooth. I assume the dots are unblended pigment, but I'm not a cosmetic scientist.
Since you're a major lipstick connoisseur can you share any tips to help satins stay on? I think I'm going to try a recommended product - Mac Prep/Prime - but not using two products would be my pref. If you have tips to encourage longer wear (like maybe really wiping my lips off before applying?) I sure would love any ideas
Thank you for your input. I tried a couple of other mattes and they didn't have bumps like this one does... to be fair though, I didn't like those colors so only tried them a few times whereas this one I've applied maybe 10+ times... perhaps the "bumpies" don't come out until more of the pristine surface is worn away? In any case, it still seems like it shouldn't be like this for the price, esp. when it makes application less smooth. I've ordered a satin of Rouge H and will see how that works. I love the object itself so applying is actually really pleasurable, enough so that I'm converted to daily wear despite not ever previously wearing lipstick with any regularity!
Since you're a major lipstick connoisseur can you share any tips to help satins stay on? I think I'm going to try a recommended product - Mac Prep/Prime - but not using two products would be my pref. If you have tips to encourage longer wear (like maybe really wiping my lips off before applying?) I sure would love any ideas
Let us know how you go with the satin Rouge H! I hope it will be better.
Re: staying in place. I definitely wouldn't set myself up as an expert, but definitely an avid hobbyist and happy to share tips from the experience I do have!
When I don't want to use two products, I apply differently: I put on a full-but-not-thick layer and press it into my lips, first with my lips and then with a tissue or reusable makeup pad. Then I blot any excess, then I repeat that step again with a new layer of lipstick, then I top with a final layer of lipstick.
If I'm wearing a lip liner with a satin lipstick, I make sure the liner is a 'dry' one (and vice versa - if I'm wearing a matte lipstick, I make sure the liner is a more moisturising one). By 'dry' I mean the kind of liner that you have to pull across your lips a bit and that feels like a real pencil when you sharpen it, not too waxy.
The ultimate stay-in-place approach for me is: layer of lipstick, press and blot, light dab/dotting of lipstick, super light dust of translucent powder, layer of lipstick. With this I don't usually bother with lip liner.
I also have Rouge H in matte, as well as two other H mattes. Although mine aren't nearly as bumpy as yours, they also aren't completely smooth. I assume the dots are unblended pigment, but I'm not a cosmetic scientist.
Do tell please missmabel5, which brands are your favorites?
ETA: in comparison to H to stay on topic.
Edited, in comparison to H to stay on topic.
The following are smoother and more emollient than H: Chantecaille is a good all-rounder and I appreciate it's more accessible than some of my other favourites. Lipstick Queen had originally a wonderful formula, has changed a bit in recent years but is still very, very good. I often don't mess around with their limited editions, though, which have different formulas and are often dreadful. The Rodin formula is wonderful, and if their shade range works for you, you can't go wrong. Brilliant in winter as they're super emollient.
Better in terms of staying power and comparable to H in terms of colours: Lisa Eldridge is great, and I appreciate that she goes to significant effort to show all the colours on different skintones, in different lighting, to aid online ordering. Unique colours, too. Similarly (where Lisa Eldridge was creative director), Lancome has great colours. Among their ranges, I really only like the L'Absolu Rouge formula, and luckily I also love the case for it, which sort of pops out when you press the top. It contains a small amount of fragrance. Their oranges 66 and 198 might be of interest to those who passed on the H orange.
This video (not in English) shows the case and one of the oranges (the orange is at about 3:15): .
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Edited, in comparison to H to stay on topic.
The following are smoother and more emollient than H: Chantecaille is a good all-rounder and I appreciate it's more accessible than some of my other favourites. Lipstick Queen had originally a wonderful formula, has changed a bit in recent years but is still very, very good. I often don't mess around with their limited editions, though, which have different formulas and are often dreadful. The Rodin formula is wonderful, and if their shade range works for you, you can't go wrong. Brilliant in winter as they're super emollient.
Better in terms of staying power and comparable to H in terms of colours: Lisa Eldridge is great, and I appreciate that she goes to significant effort to show all the colours on different skintones, in different lighting, to aid online ordering. Unique colours, too. Similarly (where Lisa Eldridge was creative director), Lancome has great colours. Among their ranges, I really only like the L'Absolu Rouge formula, and luckily I also love the case for it, which sort of pops out when you press the top. It contains a small amount of fragrance. Their oranges 66 and 198 might be of interest to those who passed on the H orange.
Thank you!
Thank you - this is so helpful especially with the detail you shared. I've done the first multiple layer trick but with only a single blot, I need to try your double-blot and a third layer. And your "ultimate" approach sounds pretty genius so I'm going to try that ASAPLet us know how you go with the satin Rouge H! I hope it will be better.
Re: staying in place. I definitely wouldn't set myself up as an expert, but definitely an avid hobbyist and happy to share tips from the experience I do have!
When I don't want to use two products, I apply differently: I put on a full-but-not-thick layer and press it into my lips, first with my lips and then with a tissue or reusable makeup pad. Then I blot any excess, then I repeat that step again with a new layer of lipstick, then I top with a final layer of lipstick.
If I'm wearing a lip liner with a satin lipstick, I make sure the liner is a 'dry' one (and vice versa - if I'm wearing a matte lipstick, I make sure the liner is a more moisturising one). By 'dry' I mean the kind of liner that you have to pull across your lips a bit and that feels like a real pencil when you sharpen it, not too waxy.
The ultimate stay-in-place approach for me is: layer of lipstick, press and blot, light dab/dotting of lipstick, super light dust of translucent powder, layer of lipstick. With this I don't usually bother with lip liner.
Do you use a makeup pad or maybe cotton pad to dust the powder?Thank you also for your H comparison to other brands!
Teetering on off-top, but hopefully not quite. I love make up, always have, getting ready is like yoga for me, never a chore, and though I don‘t use much, I could never go completely w/o it.
Lipstick (by a wide margin) and foundation are my faves. And now we have compulsory masks for the past 11 months... I know H doesn’t have any base makeup yet, hopefully they will, but do you forgo foundation because of mask wearing? I have a very even skin tone, I just like that foundation makes skin even more even
yet lately, I rather put on a brighter lipstick ( Rouge Indien, Corail Fou, a La Bouche Rouge red) that stays put under a mask rather than dealing with an imperfect foundation and a neutral lip, my previous fave look. the hubby obviously likes me better without foundation, but also never detects any foundation flaws after wearing a mask ( we have to wear FFP2s here currently), bless him.
I know it‘s so superficial, but at 4 ft 11 and with short hair, I like being put together, especially after moving from a big city.
Thanks for your input. To put the focus back to H, I‘m also debating getting the LE Beige or the LE coral. There
Lipstick (by a wide margin) and foundation are my faves. And now we have compulsory masks for the past 11 months... I know H doesn’t have any base makeup yet, hopefully they will, but do you forgo foundation because of mask wearing? I have a very even skin tone, I just like that foundation makes skin even more even
yet lately, I rather put on a brighter lipstick ( Rouge Indien, Corail Fou, a La Bouche Rouge red) that stays put under a mask rather than dealing with an imperfect foundation and a neutral lip, my previous fave look. the hubby obviously likes me better without foundation, but also never detects any foundation flaws after wearing a mask ( we have to wear FFP2s here currently), bless him.I know it‘s so superficial, but at 4 ft 11 and with short hair, I like being put together, especially after moving from a big city.
Thanks for your input. To put the focus back to H, I‘m also debating getting the LE Beige or the LE coral. There
Saw the new LE lippies in store today... but held out for the blush and the Rosy Lip Enhancers coming out next month
Oh do you have a release date for those? I‘m eating my words from above and have already succumbed to the first of the new LE shades earlier todaySaw the new LE lippies in store today... but held out for the blush and the Rosy Lip Enhancers coming out next month