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Hi Staceyjan
Thank you for all your comments... I went to the BG site and they don’t offer single diamond DBTY design. I was looking at the .33 Rose gold in Tiffany’s and was wondering whether BG offer that. Have you seen the RG in BG. Are they the same as Tiffany?
I really like the DBTY style
When I wear the Victoria... there’s no connection that says... I really love this piece !
Thank you for all your comments... I went to the BG site and they don’t offer single diamond DBTY design. I was looking at the .33 Rose gold in Tiffany’s and was wondering whether BG offer that. Have you seen the RG in BG. Are they the same as Tiffany?
I really like the DBTY style
When I wear the Victoria... there’s no connection that says... I really love this piece !
Did you see this one? Here is the link from the BG site for the RG one that is comparable to the T&Co one:
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond-pendants/fixed-bezel-pendant-18k-rose-gold-5353r18
I have it in Plat that is the .35 and my mother has it in WG that is .50. I also have jump ring that I asked them to add so I can wear it at 16 or 18 inches. (I think it was $40 for the jump ring.)
This is the Barbara pendant that is in a cage, it does not poke or ride up:
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/the-barbara-pendant-18k-rose-gold-5352r18
I have it in .71 in YG and love it!
I never saw the actual rose gold color from BG. I do have RG DBTY 5 station from ID Jewelry.
I personally love the options of selecting a diamond using Ame's guide and this:
https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca
HTH
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond-pendants/fixed-bezel-pendant-18k-rose-gold-5353r18
I have it in Plat that is the .35 and my mother has it in WG that is .50. I also have jump ring that I asked them to add so I can wear it at 16 or 18 inches. (I think it was $40 for the jump ring.)
This is the Barbara pendant that is in a cage, it does not poke or ride up:
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/the-barbara-pendant-18k-rose-gold-5352r18
I have it in .71 in YG and love it!
I never saw the actual rose gold color from BG. I do have RG DBTY 5 station from ID Jewelry.
I personally love the options of selecting a diamond using Ame's guide and this:
https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca
HTH
Here is Ame's post, I use it whenever I am looking for a diamond:
Cheat sheet which is a great set of numbers for Round Brilliants. There are no set numbers for fancies.
Total depth between 59 61.8%
Table diameter between 53 57%--ideally 55-57.
Crown angle between 34.3 34.9 degrees
Pavilion angle between 40.6 40.9 degrees
Girdle thickness between thin to medium, faceted (bruted isn't bad, but faceted is more visually appealing.)
Culet size: none
When you're dealing with a table of 53-54, you want the depth to be in the 59-60 range, not the 61-62 range. I harp on the 55 because it's RIGHT in the middle of the range.
Secret sauce is a 55% table, a depth around 59.5-60%, a Crown Angle of 34.5 and a Pavilion Angle of 40.7-40.8.
The angles mentioned in degrees are a range, obviously you're going to have interplay, so there's not a specific ratio there. You have to see what the numbers on each stone are. There really is a bigger range of angles than that but ideally those would be great to hit.
HCA scores: I do not lean on the HCA (Holloway Cut Advisor) as a final decision maker. It's a nice thing to use. Very few stones will get a 4 EX score--the secret sauce will almost certainly get you one that will though. I have seen several serious winners in the 0-2 range, and just as many dogs in the same range just as I have seen some serious winners just outside of it, and many more dogs outside of it. It is a weeder tool to help you look more closely at things.
More input on the girdle: Bruted isn't horrible, my current stone is bruted. Just about everyone will like Faceted better, but bruted isn't a horrible thing. It's not going to ruin your diamond or anything.
I tend to recommend a few specific online vendors more heavily--I vary who I go with depending what I am looking for, and for a reason: most of their stones are AGS graded with a few GIA, their stones are shown with great photography and they do extensive testing that indicates light return and proper cut quality. They also rely heavily on AGS reports, vs GIA, and AGS actually has the authority to call something IDEAL cut. They can prove it. GIA Excellent has a ridiculous margin and many stones that get that grade (or Tiffany's "triple excellent" nonsensical grade) are not actually well cut stones. There's no science behind those grades, where AGS actually has science to prove it is well cut.
Blue Nile is almost never one I recommend because they don't provide either and it's not my ideal to just buy a round on paper. You CAN, but photos and testing really help you identify a winner. I like magnified images, especially those that rotate and zoom to see the inclusions, I like ASETs and I like Idealscopes. Blue Nile does not employ those things.
Cheat sheet which is a great set of numbers for Round Brilliants. There are no set numbers for fancies.
Total depth between 59 61.8%
Table diameter between 53 57%--ideally 55-57.
Crown angle between 34.3 34.9 degrees
Pavilion angle between 40.6 40.9 degrees
Girdle thickness between thin to medium, faceted (bruted isn't bad, but faceted is more visually appealing.)
Culet size: none
When you're dealing with a table of 53-54, you want the depth to be in the 59-60 range, not the 61-62 range. I harp on the 55 because it's RIGHT in the middle of the range.
Secret sauce is a 55% table, a depth around 59.5-60%, a Crown Angle of 34.5 and a Pavilion Angle of 40.7-40.8.
The angles mentioned in degrees are a range, obviously you're going to have interplay, so there's not a specific ratio there. You have to see what the numbers on each stone are. There really is a bigger range of angles than that but ideally those would be great to hit.
HCA scores: I do not lean on the HCA (Holloway Cut Advisor) as a final decision maker. It's a nice thing to use. Very few stones will get a 4 EX score--the secret sauce will almost certainly get you one that will though. I have seen several serious winners in the 0-2 range, and just as many dogs in the same range just as I have seen some serious winners just outside of it, and many more dogs outside of it. It is a weeder tool to help you look more closely at things.
More input on the girdle: Bruted isn't horrible, my current stone is bruted. Just about everyone will like Faceted better, but bruted isn't a horrible thing. It's not going to ruin your diamond or anything.
I tend to recommend a few specific online vendors more heavily--I vary who I go with depending what I am looking for, and for a reason: most of their stones are AGS graded with a few GIA, their stones are shown with great photography and they do extensive testing that indicates light return and proper cut quality. They also rely heavily on AGS reports, vs GIA, and AGS actually has the authority to call something IDEAL cut. They can prove it. GIA Excellent has a ridiculous margin and many stones that get that grade (or Tiffany's "triple excellent" nonsensical grade) are not actually well cut stones. There's no science behind those grades, where AGS actually has science to prove it is well cut.
Blue Nile is almost never one I recommend because they don't provide either and it's not my ideal to just buy a round on paper. You CAN, but photos and testing really help you identify a winner. I like magnified images, especially those that rotate and zoom to see the inclusions, I like ASETs and I like Idealscopes. Blue Nile does not employ those things.
Another vote for Victoria! I have the earrings in large size and one day probably would add the pendant to my collection too. I also own the dbty which I wear every single day, but personally I wouldn't exchange hubby's anniversary gift. Victoria line is very elegant and classic. Good luck deciding.
Another idea to add to the mix - you mention a rose gold DBTY. The Victoria also comes in rose gold in the small and medium, maybe that is a mix of the two you are interested in. Just a thought. Enjoy either one, they are both beautiful!
Hi Staceyjan... budget will b max us$3800 and I was looking at the BG link and I noticed the diamond protrude out at the back by a lot whereas Tiffany’s is flatter.
Hi Rami00... actually my husband n I picked it out together. I was down to Victoria and DBTY and everyone in the store and my husband said Victoria so I gave in ! Even tho I really liked the DBTY.
Hi razl62... I’m a silver, white gold, platinum kind of girl. Everything I own is in white. I picked rose gold for DBTY because strangely the rose gold looks better on me ( my skin tone) compared to platinum. So if I’m to choose Victoria.. it will be in platinum.
I’m still deciding as I’ve 30 days to decide whether to keep or change it
Hi Rami00... actually my husband n I picked it out together. I was down to Victoria and DBTY and everyone in the store and my husband said Victoria so I gave in ! Even tho I really liked the DBTY.
Hi razl62... I’m a silver, white gold, platinum kind of girl. Everything I own is in white. I picked rose gold for DBTY because strangely the rose gold looks better on me ( my skin tone) compared to platinum. So if I’m to choose Victoria.. it will be in platinum.
I’m still deciding as I’ve 30 days to decide whether to keep or change it
Staceyjan... I’m looking at size - .33 upwards... Mayb to .40... I think with my budget... I can get it at these sizes
Hi Staceyjan
Thank you for all your comments... I went to the BG site and they don’t offer single diamond DBTY design. I was looking at the .33 Rose gold in Tiffany’s and was wondering whether BG offer that. Have you seen the RG in BG. Are they the same as Tiffany?
I really like the DBTY style
When I wear the Victoria... there’s no connection that says... I really love this piece !
I think you may have answered your own question. Get the DBTY.
I have a feeling that eventually you will end up with both lol. Get what makes your heart sing. Dbty is my everyday piece and so many women have asked me where I got it from..... it’s a floating sparkle on your neck.Hi Staceyjan... budget will b max us$3800 and I was looking at the BG link and I noticed the diamond protrude out at the back by a lot whereas Tiffany’s is flatter.
Hi Rami00... actually my husband n I picked it out together. I was down to Victoria and DBTY and everyone in the store and my husband said Victoria so I gave in ! Even tho I really liked the DBTY.
Hi razl62... I’m a silver, white gold, platinum kind of girl. Everything I own is in white. I picked rose gold for DBTY because strangely the rose gold looks better on me ( my skin tone) compared to platinum. So if I’m to choose Victoria.. it will be in platinum.
I’m still deciding as I’ve 30 days to decide whether to keep or change it
With your budget, you would still have $ to spare. I would get the BG top of the line collection called Black. Here is one nice one:https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...0.422-d-vvs2-round-diamond-bkags-104097998064
You can also go smaller or lower in color or quality for less. But, this one seems to be really top of the line in your size range.
Then, I would do the Barbara pendant so it does not poke you since it has a cage in the back. It also weighs it down so it doesn’t ride up towards your back:
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...0.422-d-vvs2-round-diamond-bkags-104097998064
Also, depending on who wins the College basketball games, there is a coupon on their site.
This would be the total in the pic attached.
Thank you all for your comments and I’ve finally decided on the DBTY Even tho I like Victoria... I think I would like the DBTY first and I think I will wear it more.
My final decision- .39 , E, VVS1, rose gold
Even tho I like Victoria... I think I would like the DBTY first and I think I will wear it more. My final decision- .39 , E, VVS1, rose gold
