Do you feel like the For Target line cheapens your bags?

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Yes, it would bother me. If I want a bag to knock around with, I will choose something that is made for that purpose. These designer bags for Target seem to be somewhere in between the lure of the designer's name and the it's just pleather scale.
 
I think it does if the Target line looks too similar to the higher end line. One reason that people buy high end products is because they like owning a unique product. It's a fine balancing act for brands that have an iconic look (e.g. Gryson) because they want to include that signature detail in the Target line but can't make the Target line too similar to the original boutique line.

I think designers want to get into this sort of thing (Vera Wang Lite for Kohl, for example) in order to satisfy the desire for upscale products among those who would normally be customers on Santee Alley or on Canal Street. In other words, imo, this is the designers' way of heading off the counterfeiters by trying to appeal to their customer base - women of all income levels who want a designer look yet who also want to conserve their expenditures.

With the downturn in the economy, it is my view that this sort of thing will increase, not decrease.

I agree. :yes: At that point, it's a question of whether they can capture enough of the mass market (which tends to have lower margins) to make up for any loss of their high end customers (who tend to pay a much larger markup).
 
I'm not a huge fan of the idea, but I guess it doesn't really bother me that much.... I kind of think it's like Marc Jacobs vs. Marc by Marc Jacobs.... the MJ's are made in Italy, the MbMJ's are made in Indonesia or wherever...different price points.
 
If you're buying a quality handbag for the bag and not just to be someones walking advertising, then nothing can "cheapen" your handbag. Designers don't (or at least shouldn't) get into the fashion business to make pretty things for a small sub-sect of pretty people with money - its about everyone having and enjoying nice things. If that means someone can enjoy a Botkier or Gryson or whatever from Target made with less expensive materials and set at a better price point, then I say thats fantastic.

Like I said in a previous post in another thread - people who think a brand making a more affordable offshoot is a bad thing is just being a snob and should probably check themselves - most of them would fight kicking and screaming to the front of the line for a "Chanel by Target" and you know it!
:tup: ITA.
 
I struggle with this because part of the appeal to some of these bags is the price and the exclusivity! I will say that for some reason I don't have a problem because its Target. If it was Kmart or Walmart I would have more of a problem, which doesn't make a lot of sense, but there ya go.
 
^^ heh. I bet a lot of us that are ok with this feel the same way. Go Target! I remember when everyone made fun of Target and it was just embarrassing to have to clothes purchased from there (thanks, mom). I don't know what makeover company they hired but that has to be one of the best turnarounds ever!
 
Gryson and Botkier are 2 of my favorites, but it doesn't really bother me. I doubt I'll buy any of their Target versions, because part of what I love about them is the quality, feel of the leather, etc. Even though the name's the same, they're not the same bags.
 
I'm with PP. Target bags are intended to be entry level/low end. I may be wrong but it seems like designers definitely want to distinguish their target/entry level bags from their high end bags. I think the designs will be different and of course the materials will be different as well. I am excited to see what they are like.

I was just thinking... the difference between an Old Navy Sweater and a Banana Republic sweater is huge.... same company but very different quality. Just a thought...
 
Well what about Ralph Lauren? I mean I have stuff from about 3 different price points. Black label, purple label, blue label, maybe I'm even confusing colors - I don't know. I don't think too much is exclusive anymore. Unless you go vintage/handmade, I mean even Hermes is accessible.
 
Well what about Ralph Lauren? I mean I have stuff from about 3 different price points. Black label, purple label, blue label, maybe I'm even confusing colors - I don't know. I don't think too much is exclusive anymore. Unless you go vintage/handmade, I mean even Hermes is accessible.

I actually feel the same way about RL. If I'm spending a lot on clothing, it isn't RL black label. There are other brands I prefer that aren't so common.
 
it doesn't bother me. but also none of my designer brand bags have done it yet. but i think i would be thrilled if RM got asked to do it!! I think that you can definitely tell the difference so it isn't as big a deal, and it is a great opportunity for people who can't afford the higher priced ones to get in on the designs!
 
I'm not a huge fan of the idea, but I guess it doesn't really bother me that much.... I kind of think it's like Marc Jacobs vs. Marc by Marc Jacobs.... the MJ's are made in Italy, the MbMJ's are made in Indonesia or wherever...different price points.

it's a good opportunity for smaller up and coming designers. i mean, success comes with being a household name, so this business venture makes sense for them. it can't really be compared with mbmj, see by chloe or miu miu though. mbmj's price point for their bags is $250-$600. that's still way more than the average woman is willing to pay for a handbag. miu miu's prices equal to those of prada's. there's a huge difference between $40 for the gryson target bag and $800 for the mainline bag, you know?

i can't say this trend bothers me, but like a lot of other ladies have said, my favorite designer (marc jacobs) hasn't done this nor does he need to do it. although he does have a diffusion line, the aesthetic is so different from the collection line leaving very little room for comparison. interesting topic.
 
I'm with PP. Target bags are intended to be entry level/low end. I may be wrong but it seems like designers definitely want to distinguish their target/entry level bags from their high end bags. I think the designs will be different and of course the materials will be different as well. I am excited to see what they are like.

I was just thinking... the difference between an Old Navy Sweater and a Banana Republic sweater is huge.... same company but very different quality. Just a thought...
Instead of putting your name on the Target bags. Come up with something different. Then you do not loose your your highend bag buyers... Wait and see I guess. I do not see as many people loving the highend bags as before.
 
I feel like a little bit of a hypocrite here - but I love non-bag designers that have gotten into the Target line. I love love love Sonia Kashuk's makeup line - and I have plenty of Michael Graves stuff. Same goes for that new Janovich/Hawk line.....very cute! And those new Converse dresses? Oh my gosh - they're soooo cute! And for $29, they're so adorable and well made. I bought several! :shame:
I've peaked at their Loeffler Randall bags...oh they're just not well made. I read some review on the Target website and there are usually complaints about the quality for some reason. There were problems with the inside dye LEAKING out onto the pleather on the outside (the LR satchel bag in ivory in particular).....so it's a pass for me.

I'm a snob / I'm not a snob. I can't figure myself out! :wlae: But if you didn't have a name on some of those "designer" Target bags they'd be just perceived as cheap bags. I think they stick a label on them and people go in and say "oooh" and just buy them to say they have a bag made by that person. Am I wrong?

I don't take any of this too seriously. To each his own. I love bags but in the grand scheme of things, it's never so important to get my undies in a bundle.....:rolleyes:
 
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