Diamond shapes relative to cost

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#16
I've never seen equally quality princess, cushion, etc. . . ever cost more than a round personally.
There's a website called sunjewelry or something and you can input the criteria but change the shape and watch the price change, here's what I get for 1 crt D VVS1:
round: $21,235
trillion: 18,115
princess: 15,997
cushion: 15,997
asscher: 15,997
marquise: 15,959
oval: 15,671
radiant: 15,096
emerald: 14,952
pear: 14,665
heart: 14,809

**OBVIOUSLY these are prices no one would pay, they're way over actual prices people are paying, but it's an idea of how each size falls price-wise.**
 
#17
for kicks, I just input same info on pricescope and get this:

rounds: $12-20k
heart: $7700
marquise: $6600-7600
princess: $5700-7600
emerald: $5k-7500
cushion: none in this criteria
asscher: $5k-7k
pear $5500
 
#20
Rounds are definitely the most expensive for various reasons....Handiwork, popularity, more brilliance in the cut, better value in the long run.

When doing my Diamond shopping recently, I realized that I could easily get myself at least another additional half ct more for the price I paid for my round, all other values constant....:wtf:
 
#21
Oops...I was comparing round to princess cut...didn't mean to say round was the least expensive out of every cut, but everywhere I look, round is less than princess.


2manybags said:
Funny, I've priced different shapes in the carat, color, clarity size that I'm looking for, and round always comes out the least expensive.
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Swanky, do you think at a certain carat level, for example, between 3-4 cts. the price difference becomes minimal ? I just checked out two sites and there isn't much price difference between a round cut and princess cut in the same color and clarity. :shrugs:
I would love to get your thoughts on princess cut...If I can get more bang for my buck, maybe I'll go for princess.
 
#22
2manybags said:
Oops...I was comparing round to princess cut...didn't mean to say round was the least expensive out of every cut, but everywhere I look, round is less than princess.

Swanky, do you think at a certain carat level, for example, between 3-4 cts. the price difference becomes minimal ? I just checked out two sites and there isn't much price difference between a round cut and princess cut in the same color and clarity. :shrugs:
I would love to get your thoughts on princess cut...If I can get more bang for my buck, maybe I'll go for princess.
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where specifically are you looking and are you 100% sure that they're completely equal in quality? Same color and clarity are not always equal, in fact, they can be dramatically different due to cut.

I ask because I've just never seen them even price very closely. I had a princess before and I didn't realize it until looking for my upgrade that each shape was priced differently for equal quality.

You ask an interesting question, I based my last 2 posts on reserach for 1 carat ideal cut D color VVS1 stones.
Here's what I got on one website for 2 carat, same quality as before:
round:
Sug. Retail Price: 86,551
Sale Price: $34,621

princess:
Sug. Retail Price: 60,011
Sale Price: $24,005


this website doesn't go any higher for carat weight that I could see.
 
#23
Thanks for your input Swanky! :tup: I'm still researching and now after having done my homework on rounds, I need to start learning about princess cuts. lol Did you like your princess cut ring? Any tips on what's important to look for in princess cuts?

And thanks for all your help! :smile1:
 
#24
missD said:
when i was at tiffany's they told me 1 carat princess faces up bigger than 1 carat round. something to think about :)
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I'm surprised that a SA at Tiffany's gave you this information. A 1 carat round is approximately 6.5 mm and a 1 carat princess is 6 x 6 mm, according to this chart. Hmm--this seems too big, let me check this out. A princess tends to face up smaller than a round of the same carat weight. The princess is a deeper cut stone and carries more weight beneath the girdle.
http://www.engagement-ring-mountings.com/millimeter_to_carat_equivalent_chart.html

ETA: Here's an example of an ideal cut princess, which measures less than 5.5mm x 5.5mm. I thought that that chart had the dimensions a bit off...
http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/certificate.aspx?idno=617022&file_name=1
 
#25
risingsun said:
I'm surprised that a SA at Tiffany's gave you this information. A 1 carat round is approximately 6.5 mm and a 1 carat princess is 6 x 6 mm. A princess tends to face up smaller than a round of the same carat weight. The princess, I believe, is a deeper cut stone and carries more weight in the depth.
http://www.engagement-ring-mountings.com/millimeter_to_carat_equivalent_chart.html
Here's an example of an ideal cut princess, which measures less than 5.5mm x 5.5mm. I thought that that chart had the dimensions a bit off...
http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/certificate.aspx?idno=617022&file_name=1
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very true. I personally find princess's to dace up smaller when judging a round and princess next to one another. Princess are cut deeper, they carry a lot of their weight under the girdle.


2manybags, I kind of just grew out of my Princess cut if that's possible. My tastes changed.
In my home I don't like sharp corners, I like things to be more natural in shape so rounds, cushions and OEC's are what I've evolved into loving.
 
#26
LOL Swanky, I just edited my post and we both noted the weight under the girdle. Thank goodness the only girdles that women need to be concerned about these days are on their diamonds:shame:
 
#28
My take on this issue is pretty much in line with what has been said but I would like to add a `depends on .....` into the debate!!!! First off, my h. sells jewellery and I myself went through this selection process last year. I was lucky enough to get to road test almost all the fancy shapes and the round shape. Unlike some, I was totally non fussed as to the shape of my diamond but just wanted the biggest one that we could afford without sacrificing too much out of the other C`s. It was obvious to me that for a given budget I was going to end up with a bigger looking diamond in the fancy cuts. So for my budget I could expect a 4 c. princess or a 2.5 to 3 c. round quality being the same etc.

What also needs to be kept in mind is that rounds can be cut too deep giving them a small face up for c. weight and princesses can be cut wide and shallow giving them a great spread. It is not a given that a one c. princess will have a smaller face up than a one c. round. It really depends on the cut. This is why the buyer should be aware of details such as cut and spread and not just go by c. weight.

Im from Australia and perhaps our diamond market is different being smaller than in America. Here it is difficult to source a bigger diamond and there is not a lot of choice to nit pick through the 4 c`s that you might want. Also here the combination of better cut makes the price really jump. So it is not just a matter of shape, but the combination of the 4 c`s that can heavily influence the price.

FWIW, I ended up with a 4 c. princess, popped it into a cut corner halo (of rounds) with a split shank with trillians on the side. So I guess I covered all my bases with a bit of everything. I wanted some rbs to add to the sparkle as they do sparkle more than the princess.

In summary, I think the setting can have a huge effect on the look of your stone. A good design will bring out the best of any shape and make it work imo.
 
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