Cushion Cut Diamond on Blue Nile?

TPF may earn a commission from merchant affiliate
links, including eBay, Amazon, and others

I honestly think you need to decide what you want more: Tiffany, with the ability to upgrade in a few years when you can afford larger from there to get to 1ct (spend double IIRC) or a 1ct stone. Keep in mind that a 1ct cushion will look MUCH smaller than a 1ct round, they are deeper stones.

Have you tried on the Novo in person on your hand in a 1 carat size? How about a round 1ct? That will help you decide what shape you prefer.

I would also call Tiffany and see what the largest Novo in your price range is.
 
You're totally right - I need to make that decision. I have tried on a 1 carat Tiffany Novo and I loved it. I have also tried on various 1 carat round brilliants. I don't seem to remember a huge difference in how big they look, but it was a couple years ago now and I may not have tried them on side by side. I have small fingers so the 1 carat is a pretty good size on me.

I have considered getting a smaller Tiffany and then upgrading it in the future. I should find out what the largest stone is within my budget. Right now (this could probably change tomorrow, lol) I am leaning more towards a round brilliant since it is more sparkly and looks larger and is also more classic. If I went through somewhere other than Tiffany (such as Blue Nile) I could get a Novo style setting but with a round brilliant. OR I could get a different Tiffany ring that has a round brilliant. As you can see, I am pretty confused!
 
I see that! You really need to just go try things on and see what makes you fall in love. You might surprise yourself!

One thing that I learned with settings that have diamonds. This is just my opinion but I think that they take away attention from the main diamond. Their fire sometimes is better than the main stone, and othertimes they're less firey than the main diamond.
 
I didn't think of that. I've also considered getting a solitaire and then having my wedding band have diamonds. I do like that look and it would make the e-ring cheaper. Haven't really fallen in love with any solitaire settings yet, though!
 
Go look at my wedding band thread (page 14) because you can see what my ring looks like with diamond bands. I just swapped my wider one for a much thinner one.

I have a Vatche Royal Crown solitaire. It's beautiful but it was a mess to get. There are other similar settings sort of that maybe are not such a headache. My new wedding band is Martin Flyer, and it's a much better compliment to my e-ring.
 
Oooh, your set is GORGEOUS, Ame! I read through your thread a bit and I am so happy that things finally worked out for you! I do think the solitaire e-ring with a diamond wedding band looks stunning. Maybe I need to try on some e-rings with wedding bands to see what I like? A Novo e-ring with a Novo wedding band might be too much, so I'd have to get a plain platinum wedding band. Not sure if I like that better or a solitaire with a diamond wedding band. I am reconsidering solitaires now. Unfortunately, I don't really like the Tiffany solitaire. I like the setting, but not the band with the sharp edge. We don't live in a city with a Tiffanys, but we're hoping to get away hopefully in September and then I plan to try on rings in Tiffanys and maybe Birks (I think I like their solitaires better) to get a feel for what I like. I need to look more into their upgrade policies as well. Birks looks pretty clear on their website, but not Tiffanys. Is it that you have to spend double what you originally spent? And is that the price of the whole ring or just the diamond?? Thanks so much for letting me ramble on!
 
That I don't know, hopefully a Tiffany owner will know for sure.

I think I like a solitaire better with a diamond wedding band and not an ering with a diamond shank and then a plain band, unless you put a 2nd plain band on the other side. Like a bling sandwich...

Thank you, by the way :)
 
You'll open a can of my worms if you get into the whole Tiffany is better thing with me so Ill avoid that. Because I don't think Tiffany should be a standard for anything except way overpriced.

But Tiffany has decided that I VS2 is the lowest they will carry because they feel that they are "better" and more desirable grades regardless of actual cut quality--and those grades are based on THEIR grading, not any actual reputable lab. They grade their own stones. So an I VS2 by their standards could be anything, really. It could be a K SI2 for all we really know. They claim to follow GIA's standards, but since they make their own grades, it can be whatever they want it to be, therefore allowing them to command even more in price.

Dear OP:

Ame is obviously a very educated consumer when it comes to diamonds! I usually love reading her responses and she has great taste too (and a beautiful new wedding set!) However, as a big fan of Tiffany's I take huge issue with one thing said above and just wanted to make you feel better about going with Tiffany if your heart is there!

Is Tiffany overpriced? It's more expensive per carat of equally graded stones, yes. "Overpriced" is a matter of personal taste though - there are huge arguments back and forth on this forum to refer to if you're interested but just wanted to say that I do not agree! I think style and design are just as important as the stone and you shouldn't feel badly if you decide it's important to you too, even if it means getting a slightly smaller stone. There are many discussions dedicated to this already so I won't (or at least I'll TRY!) not to go there!! I think you either think it's worth it (just like you think a Cartier love bangle is worth it) or you don't. However...

I do take issue with - and frankly think it's bordering on liable - to say that their in-house diamond experts/grading system do not constitute a "reputable lab" and that they can literally call a ring "whatever they want it to be..." grading wise. This perpetuates a perception that they are dishonest and deliberately misleading the customer. When you are dealing with Tiffany and Co. you are dealing with a HIGHLY reputable (one of the top brands in the WORLD) house of jewellery who's ENTIRE reputation would be resting on their honesty and accuracy in this department, and I think it is actually kind of ridiculous to accuse them of making up grades to command higher prices. Tiffany's may not be perfect... but dishonest and misleading? I just wanted to assure you that in my experience this is NOT the case.

I own a Tiffany classic e-ring so I'm a bit biased! I LOVE it. I wouldn't change it for ANYTHING! I LOVE knowing that it's from Tiffany's and do feel like the style and quality are worth it. I researched "copies" of their classic ring, willing to go there, and never ever found one as beautifully made. I'm sure they exist but I didn't find it! Again that's my opinion. BUT I just wanted you to know (in case you do decide on Tiffany's after all and are worried about what Ame has said about Tiffany's labs) that I've had my 1.5 carat, TIFFANY-graded "G" colour vs2 classic solitaire appraised and evaluated by a separate GIA expert for insurance purposes and across the board, it came back as graded HIGHER than Tiffany had by a category (except carat size, which I guess is pretty standard!). Tiffany's states in their diamond guides that they are conservative when it comes to their grading systems (meaning a G in Tiffany standards has often considered an F by other experts) and personally I have found this to be TRUE. It was graded VS1 and F colour by the independent appraisal. I'm not saying EVERY diamond will come out the same way - and I had my old ring appraised by two GIA experts and frankly even they didn't agree on a single rating or the value of the stone, so some of it is STILL objective, be it two "reputable GIA experts" or one from Tiffany's and one from GIA.

Yes I could have gotten my stone for less... but a ring (especially an engagement ring) is so much more than just the rock and to me it was worth every penny. If your heart is set on the little blue box and all of the style and history that goes with it (Tiffany's isn't one of the top worldwide brands for nothing) then go for it! Even if the stone is slightly smaller... who cares? Only you can decide where your dream ring will be from and whether or not size will outweigh everything that means something to you about a Tiffany's ring. Either way I'm sure it will be stunning! Can't wait to see what you end up with!
 
Oooh, your set is GORGEOUS, Ame! I read through your thread a bit and I am so happy that things finally worked out for you! I do think the solitaire e-ring with a diamond wedding band looks stunning. Maybe I need to try on some e-rings with wedding bands to see what I like? A Novo e-ring with a Novo wedding band might be too much, so I'd have to get a plain platinum wedding band. Not sure if I like that better or a solitaire with a diamond wedding band. I am reconsidering solitaires now. Unfortunately, I don't really like the Tiffany solitaire. I like the setting, but not the band with the sharp edge. We don't live in a city with a Tiffanys, but we're hoping to get away hopefully in September and then I plan to try on rings in Tiffanys and maybe Birks (I think I like their solitaires better) to get a feel for what I like. I need to look more into their upgrade policies as well. Birks looks pretty clear on their website, but not Tiffanys. Is it that you have to spend double what you originally spent? And is that the price of the whole ring or just the diamond?? Thanks so much for letting me ramble on!

Hey there!

Tiffany's "official" upgrade policy is that you can bring your ring in and exchange it towards a larger one as long as the new one is twice the value of the original. So if your budget is $8,000, you'd have to upgrade to a $16,000 ring... which honestly sounds like a lot but it really isn't. $17000 would get you a gorgeous 1.25 carat G VS2 solitaire (I only know solitaires!) at Tiffany's in Toronto and if you were going from say a .6 or .7 to an upgrade I'm guessing you'd probably want to go up around a carat or so? It gets painful when you go from a $16,000 starter one to a $32,000 one! :p It's not hard to double your price though that's for sure!

I say "official" because they let me upgrade from a 1.26 to a 1.5 that wasn't quite 2x the price with no issues at all at Bloor Street so I'm pretty sure it's not THAT literal - although it may depend on the SA. In this market they are probably pretty happy to get you to upgrade! :)

If you don't like the knife edge, I think the Birks rings would be perfect for you! They seem to be more modelled on the Cartier style than Tiffany's. My sister has their four-pronged one and it's gorgeous - a bit closer to Ame's I believe and VERY classic. The knife edge is pretty unique to Tiffany's - I NEVER thought I'd like it until I put it on! It's very elegant and not as "sharp" as you'd think at all. The best thing you can do is go and try them all on and see which one grabs your heart the most! What fun!!!
 
I didn't think of that. I've also considered getting a solitaire and then having my wedding band have diamonds. I do like that look and it would make the e-ring cheaper. Haven't really fallen in love with any solitaire settings yet, though!

That's what I have! the shared setting band (a pretty thin one, I think it's about $3800 on Tiffany's site?) with the classic solitaire and love it! :)
 
I do take issue with - and frankly think it's bordering on liable - to say that their in-house diamond experts/grading system do not constitute a "reputable lab" and that they can literally call a ring "whatever they want it to be..." grading wise. This perpetuates a perception that they are dishonest and deliberately misleading the customer. When you are dealing with Tiffany and Co. you are dealing with a HIGHLY reputable (one of the top brands in the WORLD) house of jewellery who's ENTIRE reputation would be resting on their honesty and accuracy in this department, and I think it is actually kind of ridiculous to accuse them of making up grades to command higher prices. Tiffany's may not be perfect... but dishonest and misleading? I just wanted to assure you that in my experience this is NOT the case.
I am more than just an educated consumer. I have gone through GIA classes, and while I might not be a vendor or work in the jewelry field, I actually AM educated. I have seen many stones accurately graded, or that could be subjectively accurate, anyway. I have seen stones that I think were softly graded by them. I have seen some that have been harshly graded by them.

It is far from libelous to state the facts. They operate their own grading facility for the stones they sell. That does NOT make them reputable, that actually makes them quite biased in their own favor. So yes, that can very well be dishonest and misleading. They really can call it whatever they and their in house "experts" who very well may be trained by someone like GIA, but they could also just be well trained salespeople who over time learned how to identify. I have heard but no one can seem to prove it, that they do hire GIA trained gemologists to grade. They just expect you to just accept their grading. I would prefer that my stone came with a reputable report, from the likes of GIA or AGS, even EGLUSA, even if it came from Tiffany.

They don't base their reputation on their honesty. And just because they're extremely successful, doesn't always make someone reputable. Those auto warranty companies were also wildly successful, and now most are gone because they've been caught as been con men. Tiffany bases it on their opinion of their brand and how they can persuade the public to consider them reputable. They might feel it's honest, some people may disagree. They are in the business of selling a "lifestyle". And many people want that lifestyle. A lot of that, much like every other brand, is marketing and public opinion. Because you are a happy Tiffany's customer, you believed their marketing and you live your life along their lifestyle.
 
I am also not trying to start the Tiffany vs other discussion up, nor am I really bashing Tiffany's. I am just stating what I know, as well as some of my educated opinion. I already mentioned earlier in the thread that if she wants the Tiffany, which she really does, she should get it. It's not worth skimping on what you really want unless you truly cannot afford it. Her budget is quite large, though she can't get the size she is in love with at Tiffany's with that budget. She just has to decide whether she wants a smaller stone from the original or a larger one from a non-brand. I won't judge her either way. Everyone wants different stuff, everyone's priorities when buying these items is different.
 
Thank you both - it's nice to hear various opinions. And thank you surfergirljen for sharing your positive Tiffanys experience and the upgrade policy. I tried to remain neutral in this thread, but even you guys can tell that my heart is with the Tiffanys rings and I think you are right. I really just need to go there and see what I can get with my budget (last time I was there I was looking strictly at 1 carats). If I know that I want to upgrade, it might even be worthwhile to go more towards the lower end of my budget (probably would get me a 0.5-0.6ish ring, depending on which style I choose) and then it would be financially easier to double the price so I could upgrade.

Surfergirljen - Do they guarantee the price you paid for your original ring towards the purchase of the upgraded ring? For example, if I bought a ring that was $5000 total (before taxes) and then wanted to upgrade to a ring that is $10000...we would have to pay $5000 to upgrade??

I just looked at the Birks website and I'm not really that impressed with their ring styles, but maybe they look better in person? Just seems like they have really large prongs or something. Again, I think my heart is set on Tiffanys.

Well, the title of this thread doesn't really reflect what I'm thinking anymore! Haha. It's amazing how minds can change in a matter of days.
 
Also, when you upgraded your solitaire, did they replace the stone and you kept the same setting or did you get a whole new ring? Do you have the purchase the same style or can your upgrade be any style? What do you think they do with the rings they accept back for upgrades?
 
I am more than just an educated consumer. I have gone through GIA classes, and while I might not be a vendor or work in the jewelry field, I actually AM educated. I have seen many stones accurately graded, or that could be subjectively accurate, anyway. I have seen stones that I think were softly graded by them. I have seen some that have been harshly graded by them.

It is far from libelous to state the facts. They operate their own grading facility for the stones they sell. That does NOT make them reputable, that actually makes them quite biased in their own favor. So yes, that can very well be dishonest and misleading. They really can call it whatever they and their in house "experts" who very well may be trained by someone like GIA, but they could also just be well trained salespeople who over time learned how to identify. I have heard but no one can seem to prove it, that they do hire GIA trained gemologists to grade. They just expect you to just accept their grading. I would prefer that my stone came with a reputable report, from the likes of GIA or AGS, even EGLUSA, even if it came from Tiffany.

They don't base their reputation on their honesty. And just because they're extremely successful, doesn't always make someone reputable. Those auto warranty companies were also wildly successful, and now most are gone because they've been caught as been con men. Tiffany bases it on their opinion of their brand and how they can persuade the public to consider them reputable. They might feel it's honest, some people may disagree. They are in the business of selling a "lifestyle". And many people want that lifestyle. A lot of that, much like every other brand, is marketing and public opinion. Because you are a happy Tiffany's customer, you believed their marketing and you live your life along their lifestyle.

Some good points... it's true, just because you are successful doesn't make you reputable and it may be naive to assume that. But, in the inverse, I think it's presumptuous to assume that just because they have an in-house grading system that they are NOT reliable and reputable and honest as well. Maybe that makes me naive... but as many others have pointed out, buying from Tiffany's comes with a certain amount of "peace of mind" - as opposed to say buying from a guy in the diamond district (if say we don't all have the time or energy to learn as much about the industry as some do). We trust that their diamonds are what they say they are because they are basing their reputation on NOT LYING about it. What they would be messing with in terms of their brand (if they mislead customers) to an ENORMOUS degree would be that "peace of mind" factor and that is worth something to their brand. So no, I don't believe that they go easier on their grading system to push higher prices because I don't think they'd be that stupid. And my own experience with Tiffany's does support this.

As for weather I've decided to "live my life along their lifestyle"... LOL... kind of a funny thing to say about someone you don't know, no? :) I think they make beautiful THINGS - and just don't think that everyone who shops at Tiffany's is a fool who's had the wool pulled over our eyes. I didn't "fall" for their marketing - I discovered through research that it was TRUE and wanted her to know that! :)

Further to that... if you're going to cite people for "believing in their marketing" I think you have to accept that we have all bought into the diamond industry's "marketing" and lifestyle, haven't we? A diamond is just a STONE. To a person who can't buy or sell it it's meaningless - as worthless as a piece of iron. SOMEONE has made us all believe it means something - it represents something - that it's WORTH something and because we all buy into it, we all buy them! People here (myself included!) can get obsessed by them. You don't think we've all bought into the marketing a bit here? Tiffany's is just a small offshoot of a much bigger world-wide marketing campaign to get us to all live a certain "lifestyle"... I just don't think anyone should look down their nose at people who buy that item from a certain brand.

Anyway we can agree to disagree on Tiffany's! I just didn't want OP to feel bad for wanting what she wants... whatever her reasons for wanting Tiffany's, they are as valid as anyone else's wants and I didn't want her to think in any way she was getting duped. Peace and love!
 
Top