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#901
Hi,
does anyone know the name of this classic noel bag? am searching for it but i cant seem to find the style name.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/53604190@N08/4947090185/
4947090185


http://www.flickr.com/photos/53604190@N08/4947091341/
 
#903
Hello everybody!

I bought this bag off ebay and the seller also included a wallet as a freebie. These being my first kate spade items, I want to know if they are authentic as they seem to be in my untrained eye.

Some pics of the bag:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4948537206/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4947944351/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4948534980/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4947943033/

Some pics of the wallet:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4948535338/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4947945461/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4947945843/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4948536296/

The wallet does have a production number as well but I find it hard to take a picture of it so it was not shown.

I hope the pics upload as I am not sure if I did the right thing.
Could somebody help me? Please share your opinions about the authenticity of these items. THANKS SO MUCH IN ADVANCE:D
 
#904
trippymeg84 said:
Yeah I have seen that bag online before... labeled as the 2002 abstract K. I have not ever seen another bag from the same collection though, to know if they all had angled Ks. The stamp in the leather seems pretty close to every picture I've looked at online. The leather tab inside is odd but I've never had a kate spade to know if thats something thats done.

I called kate spade today and they couldn't tell me anything about this bag specifically, but they did tell me that some bags were made in china at one point, that not all bags have more than one ks label, and not all bags have ks on the metal hardware or the zipper.

I talked to my mom today, however, and the bag was a gift from a friend (my mom is doing ok for herself, but her friend is loaded)- new with all the mumbo jumbo from the store (tags dust bag gift wrapped etc etc)... sooo I dunno what to think.

I dont particularly care except i would rather get 50 bux for it than 10 :)
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Your bag is fake. Period. There are probably few Kate Spade employees that would know any more about vintage Kate Spade bags than I do. Particularly since the company was purchased by Liz Claiborne in 2005. I gave you all of the information you needed about this bag. Except that, I did mistype the year of the collection, it is a 2002 collection, not a 2001 collection. The website where you saw this collection, undoubtedly, was my own website. http://ihatecounterfeitbags.info/newspring2002


Kate Spade bags have been made in China for over a decade, and they continue to be made in China. That does not make your bag authentic. Actually, at the time this collection was produced, ALL of the leather bags were made in Italy, though that is not the case today. The blank tab is an ABSOLUTE confirmation that your bag is fake.

As a side note, it is illegal to sell counterfeits, even for $10.
 
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#905
baggynewbie said:
Hello everybody!

I bought this bag off ebay and the seller also included a wallet as a freebie. These being my first kate spade items, I want to know if they are authentic as they seem to be in my untrained eye.

Some pics of the bag:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4948537206/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4947944351/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4948534980/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4947943033/

Some pics of the wallet:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4948535338/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4947945461/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4947945843/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53529604@N03/4948536296/

The wallet does have a production number as well but I find it hard to take a picture of it so it was not shown.

I hope the pics upload as I am not sure if I did the right thing.
Could somebody help me? Please share your opinions about the authenticity of these items. THANKS SO MUCH IN ADVANCE:D
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They are both authentic. Enjoy!
 
#906
elviscostellofan said:
They are both authentic. Enjoy!
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Possibly a fake.... not many original bags have feet and if they do they are tiny "For bags that come with feet (not all do), the feet are small and unobtrusive. They aren't pyramid or cone shaped. If you have a bag with large feet on it, chances are you have a fake." Read more: How to Spot Fake Kate Spade Bags | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4510474_spot-fake-kate-spade-bags.html#ixzz0yLLEqZFq

The Sydney bag photo I have seen has feet i think (not the best picture) but its a different shape.
"The nylon Sydney has metal feet, as do the Finn, Quinn, Roger and Ruby. The nylon luggage has feet as well. See above for the styles that do not have feet."

The tag looks right but is it sewn into the bag or onto the bag? Its easy to sew a label onto a fake.... if it is easy to pull up on the edges or its not securely sewn its a fake. "All Kate Spade bag fabric labels are attached through stitching. That means they are actually stitched onto the bag, not that the label has stitching on it. Many counterfeiters put a fake stitching around the label on then glue it on. Pull on it and if it pulls up, it's a fake." Read more: How to Spot Fake Kate Spade Bags | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4510474_spot-fake-kate-spade-bags.html#ixzz0yLMPKs37

most of kate spade's nylon bags, especially after 2002, were made in china.
"I believe this is a complete list: USA, Italy, China, Taiwan, Dominican Republic (very limited production there), Indonesia, and the Phillipines. Most of the nylon bags were made in the USA until 2002, but now they are all made in China and Indonesia. All of the nylon accessories I have seen were all made in China. Most of the leather bags are made in Italy, and straw bags are typically made in Taiwan and the Phillipines."

You can call kate spade and have them check the number (its a production number)

I don't know about the wallet... The strings that are coming off of it are not the usual, as kate spade makes good quality bags, was it pre-used?

I've attached pictures of the sydeny bags i've seen and the francis wallet
 

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#907
Well that sucks, thanks though
side note: i doubt I'll get arrested at my garage sale for selling it. I've bought knockoff guess bags before, that wasnt illegal for the person to sell to me! I think you might be off on that.

elviscostellofan said:
Your bag is fake. Period. There are probably few Kate Spade employees that would know any more about vintage Kate Spade bags than I do. Particularly since the company was purchased by Liz Claiborne in 2005. I gave you all of the information you needed about this bag. Except that, I did mistype the year of the collection, it is a 2002 collection, not a 2001 collection. The website where you saw this collection, undoubtedly, was my own website. http://ihatecounterfeitbags.info/newspring2002


Kate Spade bags have been made in China for over a decade, and they continue to be made in China. That does not make your bag authentic. Actually, at the time this collection was produced, ALL of the leather bags were made in Italy, though that is not the case today. The blank tab is an ABSOLUTE confirmation that your bag is fake.

As a side note, it is illegal to sell counterfeits, even for $10.
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#908
trippymeg84 said:
Possibly a fake.... not many original bags have feet and if they do they are tiny "For bags that come with feet (not all do), the feet are small and unobtrusive. They aren't pyramid or cone shaped. If you have a bag with large feet on it, chances are you have a fake." Read more: How to Spot Fake Kate Spade Bags | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4510474_spot-fake-kate-spade-bags.html#ixzz0yLLEqZFq

The Sydney bag photo I have seen has feet i think (not the best picture) but its a different shape.
"The nylon Sydney has metal feet, as do the Finn, Quinn, Roger and Ruby. The nylon luggage has feet as well. See above for the styles that do not have feet."

The tag looks right but is it sewn into the bag or onto the bag? Its easy to sew a label onto a fake.... if it is easy to pull up on the edges or its not securely sewn its a fake. "All Kate Spade bag fabric labels are attached through stitching. That means they are actually stitched onto the bag, not that the label has stitching on it. Many counterfeiters put a fake stitching around the label on then glue it on. Pull on it and if it pulls up, it's a fake." Read more: How to Spot Fake Kate Spade Bags | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4510474_spot-fake-kate-spade-bags.html#ixzz0yLMPKs37

most of kate spade's nylon bags, especially after 2002, were made in china.
"I believe this is a complete list: USA, Italy, China, Taiwan, Dominican Republic (very limited production there), Indonesia, and the Phillipines. Most of the nylon bags were made in the USA until 2002, but now they are all made in China and Indonesia. All of the nylon accessories I have seen were all made in China. Most of the leather bags are made in Italy, and straw bags are typically made in Taiwan and the Phillipines."

You can call kate spade and have them check the number (its a production number)

I don't know about the wallet... The strings that are coming off of it are not the usual, as kate spade makes good quality bags, was it pre-used?

I've attached pictures of the sydeny bags i've seen and the francis wallet
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Her bag is a Sydney bag. It should have metal feet. It is authentic. So is the wallet. It's actually a later model/production year than the handbag.

trippymeg84, can I ask you something? Why are you questioning my opinions of authenticity and then attaching photos that come from my website, or quoting the ehow page which refers to my website for authentications? I've been authenticating Kate Spade bags online for over a decade now and have a large catalogue of photographs of vintage collections. I don't ever mind backing up my opinions with more information for anyone who is interested, but I'm really flummoxed as to why I'm being completely second guessed here, but then my website is being referenced as a resource?

Second, with respect to the sale of counterfeits, again, I've been at this for a long time. Counterfeits are not legal to sell. Are millions of counterfeit items sold every day? Yes. Do these people wind up in jail, obviously not. Does that make it legal? No. Clearly, counterfeits are sold at purse parties, the Salvation Army, yard sales -- heck, sometimes even at mall kiosks. The vast majority of the buying public has no idea that counterfeit items are illegal to sell, what the counterfeit industry supports, or why trademark and copyright infringement are problems in the first place. But, they are.

Please understand that all of the authentications and advice I give here are done with the absolute best intentions. I give my time here freely because it's an area in which I have an interest, as well as probably the most expansive knowledge about Kate Spade (particularly older collections) on the 'net. If I tell someone their bag is counterfeit and illegal to sell, I only wish to educate them and protect them from engaging in an illegal transaction unknowingly. I have no personal stake in anyones' sales.

Regards,

Kat
 
#912
elviscostellofan said:
They are both authentic. Enjoy!
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Thanks so much elviscostellofan! I have actually been reading your blog about spotting a fake from a real kate spade, and it surely helped a lot. I just had to get a second opinion from an expert since, like I said, I have untrained eyes for this hahaha. I am so happy that both were authentic, I got a really good deal on them:yahoo:. I hope you continue to help people in authenticating kate spade stuff and continue with your advocacy of not supporting counterfeits. More power to you and thanks a lot again. I really appreciate it.
 
#913
stacetan said:
Thank Kat! Do you happen to know if its a discontinued product? or do you know of any shops selling it???
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Mmmmm, I really don't chronicle the collections like I used to, but I do think the Classic Noel is discontinued. There have been a couple of CN bags in the katespade.com clearance recently. You could try calling KS outlets -- but there are usually a lot of offerings of CN bags on eBay and Bonanzle so it likely will turn up eventually!
 
#915
baggynewbie said:
Thanks so much elviscostellofan! I have actually been reading your blog about spotting a fake from a real kate spade, and it surely helped a lot. I just had to get a second opinion from an expert since, like I said, I have untrained eyes for this hahaha. I am so happy that both were authentic, I got a really good deal on them:yahoo:. I hope you continue to help people in authenticating kate spade stuff and continue with your advocacy of not supporting counterfeits. More power to you and thanks a lot again. I really appreciate it.
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Thanks for your nice note! My website is actually pretty out of date, and frankly, I don't think I'll ever have time to update it, so don't ever hesitate to ask a question here if you have any doubts!! I usually check here daily.
 
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