*CLOSED* Authenticate This KATE SPADE
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Please help! I just received a 2nd Kate Spade Magnolia Bakery coin purse from eBay, and I'm not sure it is authentic either. The plastic bag included with my new one is untagged and while it does have the original tag, it is not attached like it was in the listing photos. This is because the jump rings on the zipper pulls (which are identical, by the way) both have small gaps.
Both reek of chemicals and they are virtually identical except for one thing: the placement of the cherries is different relative to the closed zipper. The irregular placement is how I determined the one on the to be fake.
I am including photos of them:
Can anyone help authenticate this? I am desperate to get my hands on one, since I missed out when they were for sale on the KS site.
Both reek of chemicals and they are virtually identical except for one thing: the placement of the cherries is different relative to the closed zipper. The irregular placement is how I determined the one on the to be fake.
I am including photos of them:
Can anyone help authenticate this? I am desperate to get my hands on one, since I missed out when they were for sale on the KS site.
Hmmm if they're fake they are really good...I've had a look and the shop ones have the magnolia tag... I'm not sure what the chances are of two sellers both keeping the tag.
Also the writing on the bottom seems a bit bright! However looking at others the code and bar code match authentic ones that are being posted!? Could you take it to a store and ask??
Also the writing on the bottom seems a bit bright! However looking at others the code and bar code match authentic ones that are being posted!? Could you take it to a store and ask??
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Hi, thanks for posting.
The last photo shows what each one came with. Neither have the Magnolia tag, and the plastic bag is untagged.
While I'm not expert, I consider myself to be fairly decent at scrutinizing pictures, seeing differences and recognizing what could be factory mistakes or differences vs. fakes.Please help! I just received a 2nd Kate Spade Magnolia Bakery coin purse from eBay, and I'm not sure it is authentic either. The plastic bag included with my new one is untagged and while it does have the original tag, it is not attached like it was in the listing photos. This is because the jump rings on the zipper pulls (which are identical, by the way) both have small gaps.
Both reek of chemicals and they are virtually identical except for one thing: the placement of the cherries is different relative to the closed zipper. The irregular placement is how I determined the one on the to be fake.
I am including photos of them:
Can anyone help authenticate this? I am desperate to get my hands on one, since I missed out when they were for sale on the KS site.
From what I'm seeing, I don't believe either coin purse to be fake. (Note if the tag on the right that you're showing came with one of the cupcakes, it's not the correct tag for the item. I'm unclear whether you're showing that as a comparison or if you received it with the purchase.)
1. Please post link(s) to listing(s). It's helpful to look at the listings, sellers' items, etc.
2. I've looked through other listings and I see the coin purses with cherries in both locations
3. Regarding an attached tag shown in a listing vs. an unattached tag, that (IMO) isn't a big deal. The seller may have purchased more than one of the same item, one which had the tag attached and the other not attached.
4. I don't know the answer to this but I'm thinking out loud. Is it possible that slightly different versions were made for the retail store vs. factory outlet?
5. Is the 'frosting' section attached separately to the bottom of the cupcake? Is it possible that at one factory, they turned it slightly more when putting them together?
These listings show cherries above closed end of zipper:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWOT-Kate-Spade-magnolia-bakery-cupcake-coin-purse-/172186119462?hash=item281717ad26%3Ag%3AaIEAAOSw3mpXF8-z&nma=true&si=HYccTfWv5OQJb%252BZqMZgbBqlf9VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auth-Brand-...dc4343c&pid=100011&rk=1&rkt=2&sd=162039217583
http://www.ebay.com/itm/KATE-SPADE-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
These listings show cherries to right of closed zipper end:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Kate-Sp...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-P...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
I believe both coin purses are authentic and believe that KS made 2 slightly different versions, possibly done in two different factories.
Hi, thanks for posting.
The last photo shows what each one came with. Neither have the Magnolia tag, and the plastic bag is untagged.
I dont authenticate.
However, I have this item. I purchased it at a boutique before the actual release, so it's highly unlikely to have been a return. I didnt get any of the outer plastic packaging since sales associates usually remove that. But I also did not have it come in a gift box. Ive had items before come with designated gift boxes so I have my doubts that the gift box is particular to this item. The inside was packed tightly with tissue paper as well.
My cherries are aligned a little more than an inch from the zipper. The lining should have white cupcakes with oval tops and a base with straight lines except where it cups the oval. It is hard to tell from your photo whether they are cupcakes or abstract shapes. (I know the smallness and odd shape of the item and the reflective lining make it difficult to capture.)
The tag on the left uses the wrong font for KS tags. And the numbers on the serial code arent aligned like my tag. Also KS boutique items will have a quirky saying, this tag does not.
My inner tags do not overlap each other, and the white tag with product code does not have any black mark at the bottom like the left.
I hope this helps in your assessment.
Again, i'm posting what I see.
Here are a few listings and comparisons. Note that the tags have the same font.
Ebay listing 1: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Kate-Sp...926523?hash=item2368d94bbb:g:~B0AAOSwz2lXCeBf
Ebay listing 2: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kate-Spade-...880020?hash=item33b63e7a94:g:VlYAAOSwO~hXIjLO
Ebay listing 3: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIFT-BOX-Ka...628441?hash=item2eee025f19:g:HoQAAOSw-zxWmq-f
And if you look at KS's website picture and description, the cherries are off to the side and the style number is identical to that you are questioning, PWRU4560.
https://www.katespade.com/products/magnolia-bakery-cupcake-coin-purse/PWRU4560.html
Here are a few listings and comparisons. Note that the tags have the same font.
Ebay listing 1: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Kate-Sp...926523?hash=item2368d94bbb:g:~B0AAOSwz2lXCeBf
Ebay listing 2: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kate-Spade-...880020?hash=item33b63e7a94:g:VlYAAOSwO~hXIjLO
Ebay listing 3: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIFT-BOX-Ka...628441?hash=item2eee025f19:g:HoQAAOSw-zxWmq-f
And if you look at KS's website picture and description, the cherries are off to the side and the style number is identical to that you are questioning, PWRU4560.
https://www.katespade.com/products/magnolia-bakery-cupcake-coin-purse/PWRU4560.html
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The two tags on the left are different than the two on the right. I dont want to point out in public the differences and help forgers get better. Maybe they are both real but they are different.
A big thanks to everyone who posted- you've been very helpful! [emoji2]
It's good to know the tag is almost certainly not authentic. And I also wondered: since the silicone? frosting top was probably glued on, couldn't the counterfeiters simply have realized their mistake regarding the placement of the cherries and rotated the piece at some point?
I didn't know the lining pattern was supposed to be cupcakes, either. They just look like dots with lines through them to me- at least on the ones I have.
To clear up any confusion about the untagged bag, I have only bought from katespade.com and KS outlets. Every time I order a coin purse (as opposed to buying in person), it comes with tags, care card, wrapped in tissue paper inside a tagged bag. The only time I get a plastic bag is from their online store- never the outlet. And it is always tagged.
It would have been better for the seller not to include a bag at all, rather than a similar bag without the tag. The same goes for the green price tag- better to not include any tag than a fake.
In sum, I suspect both of my cupcake coin purses are fakes, albeit good ones.
Finally, here is a link to the second seller (he/she has multiples of this coin purse):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Kate-Sp...819608?hash=item2365906e58:g:~B0AAOSwz2lXCeBf
It's good to know the tag is almost certainly not authentic. And I also wondered: since the silicone? frosting top was probably glued on, couldn't the counterfeiters simply have realized their mistake regarding the placement of the cherries and rotated the piece at some point?
I didn't know the lining pattern was supposed to be cupcakes, either. They just look like dots with lines through them to me- at least on the ones I have.
To clear up any confusion about the untagged bag, I have only bought from katespade.com and KS outlets. Every time I order a coin purse (as opposed to buying in person), it comes with tags, care card, wrapped in tissue paper inside a tagged bag. The only time I get a plastic bag is from their online store- never the outlet. And it is always tagged.
It would have been better for the seller not to include a bag at all, rather than a similar bag without the tag. The same goes for the green price tag- better to not include any tag than a fake.
In sum, I suspect both of my cupcake coin purses are fakes, albeit good ones.
Finally, here is a link to the second seller (he/she has multiples of this coin purse):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Kate-Sp...819608?hash=item2365906e58:g:~B0AAOSwz2lXCeBf
If I implied that the tag was fake, that wasn't my intention. I was trying to show that there were different tags and multiples of each.
My opinion is that both are authentic.
Before accusing the seller(s) of selling fakes, I'd recommend a small investment of about $7-7.50 for a professional authentication.
Another option is to wait for Dawnsfinallywed. She the regular KS authenticator here.
Let me add something else.
I don't consider myself to be a KS authenticator because my experience is considerably more limited than the other brands I do. But having owned, sold and scrutinized listings, I consider that my points are valid.
I would assume Kate Spade has multiple plants around the world where her items are made and if my assumption is correct, the following might explain differences you're noticing between your 2 items (as well as differences among those other listings).
I'd like to point out something we encounter a lot when authenticating Coach. Buyers will often question authenticity of items because they creed patch font/text/material/etc. differs from other Coach items they own.
But even with bags of the same style, comparisons aren't truly valid unless comparing apples to apples. Creed texts, fonts, spacing must be compared to another identical bag that was made in the same year and factory. If comparing 2 bags, one made in China and another made in Costa Rica, there are going to be differences in the fonts and spacing of the serial number on the creed. It doesn't mean that one or both of them are fake.
My point is that if Axion's 2 items were made in different factories, there might be differences. And that could explain the different placement of the cherries.
I don't consider myself to be a KS authenticator because my experience is considerably more limited than the other brands I do. But having owned, sold and scrutinized listings, I consider that my points are valid.
I would assume Kate Spade has multiple plants around the world where her items are made and if my assumption is correct, the following might explain differences you're noticing between your 2 items (as well as differences among those other listings).
I'd like to point out something we encounter a lot when authenticating Coach. Buyers will often question authenticity of items because they creed patch font/text/material/etc. differs from other Coach items they own.
But even with bags of the same style, comparisons aren't truly valid unless comparing apples to apples. Creed texts, fonts, spacing must be compared to another identical bag that was made in the same year and factory. If comparing 2 bags, one made in China and another made in Costa Rica, there are going to be differences in the fonts and spacing of the serial number on the creed. It doesn't mean that one or both of them are fake.
My point is that if Axion's 2 items were made in different factories, there might be differences. And that could explain the different placement of the cherries.
I really love this item... Wish I'd bought it! On a plus... You won't mind a fake one getting bashed about in your bag!!
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