Certification for exotics?

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IrresistibleLuxe

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Hello!
I am trying to find info which exotics and brands should have a CITES certification? Also if there is any other certificate/documents exotics should have? I only found some info in one of the Hermes threads. What about Dior, Fendi, LV and other premier designers? Any info or leads to other threads will be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
PS. I’m not sure if this is the right place to post it. If not, apologies and please direct me to the right section :):heart:
 
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All brands should give you CITES for whatever products you have bought if the species requires (not just generic family name).

If you go to the bottom of this more general number breakdown, the (checklist) will tell you of all species that are protected and for which you will need: CITES
 
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Check out this thread:

Check those CITES certificates!

Hi All, just a reminder that if you buy an exotic product that says it comes with CITES, ask the seller to send a copy of the certificate to you in advance so that you can confirm it actually matches the item you're purchasing. I just took delivery of a beautiful Gucci crocodile bag (it's...
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leechiyong said:
Check out this thread:

Check those CITES certificates!

Hi All, just a reminder that if you buy an exotic product that says it comes with CITES, ask the seller to send a copy of the certificate to you in advance so that you can confirm it actually matches the item you're purchasing. I just took delivery of a beautiful Gucci crocodile bag (it's...
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I agree, Gucci have done this to me before too. My 2011 croc bag had CITES for python so I then had to them follow it up.

All I could imagine was these big brands don't think you're going to check.

There is also a problem is most people can tell the difference between croc and python (the price for one thing) but I have a Gucci croc bag with paperwork stating crocodile, I'm pretty sure the bag is actually alligator though. @Christofle says that Crocodillo is a generic term, but then I would have though the exact species would be noted.

Same with the 'snakeskin' which is often given in descriptions because the posting listing it online can't tell either. Unless someone has several, it's hard for customers to tell cobra from python or watersnake from whipsnake make trim.

I've seen lizard described as snakeskin too :rolleyes:

Brands (and resellers) need to be more transparent about what they're using/selling IMO.
 
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Thank you all! What about ostrich? I bought a bag in Fendi boutique and they told me that certification does not come with ostrich. I was surprised as I thought that all exotics comes with it. But at the same time, I don’t have much knowledge in this area and maybe it’s ok... So wanted to see if anyone else had similar experience, and maybe there is something I should do about it.
 
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IrresistibleLuxe said:
Thank you all! What about ostrich? I bought a bag in Fendi boutique and they told me that certification does not come with ostrich. I was surprised as I thought that all exotics comes with it. But at the same time, I don’t have much knowledge in this area and maybe it’s ok... So wanted to see if anyone else had similar experience, and maybe there is something I should do about it.
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It mainly croc, python, and maybe lizard.
I never heard of CITES for ostrich. It may be needed if Somali Ostrich was used? Maybe. Not sure.
Most ostrich leather are sourced Common Ostrich which is not endangered. These are farmed animals as well.
 
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IrresistibleLuxe said:
Thank you all! What about ostrich? I bought a bag in Fendi boutique and they told me that certification does not come with ostrich. I was surprised as I thought that all exotics comes with it. But at the same time, I don’t have much knowledge in this area and maybe it’s ok... So wanted to see if anyone else had similar experience, and maybe there is something I should do about it.
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Most commercial ostrich is farmed as @BleuSaphir said, and not endangered so not on the list. It's all about the list
 
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papertiger said:
I agree, Gucci have done this to me before too. My 2011 croc bag had CITES for python so I then had to them follow it up.

All I could imagine was these big brands don't think you're going to check.

There is also a problem is most people can tell the difference between croc and python (the price for one thing) but I have a Gucci croc bag with paperwork stating crocodile, I'm pretty sure the bag is actually alligator though. @Christofle says that Crocodillo is a generic term, but then I would have though the exact species would be noted.

Same with the 'snakeskin' which is often given in descriptions because the posting listing it online can't tell either. Unless someone has several, it's hard for customers to tell cobra from python or watersnake from whipsnake make trim.

I've seen lizard described as snakeskin too :rolleyes:

Brands (and resellers) need to be more transparent about what they're using/selling IMO.
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Even worse...lizard as croc. :lol:

I have a catalogue for a spring 2022 collection that has a reversible lizard belt marked as croc... oh dear.

I always forget that in the "real world" outside of TPF many can't distinguish blatantly different exotic hides let alone distinguishing between tegu, nile and ring lizards
 
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Christofle said:
Even worse...lizard as croc. :lol:

I have a catalogue for a spring 2022 collection that has a reversible lizard belt marked as croc... oh dear.

I always forget that in the "real world" outside of TPF many can't distinguish blatantly different exotic hides let alone distinguishing between tegu, nile and ring lizards
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Gucci bag yesterday described as python, whilst there were python bags on the shelf, this one was clearly cobra. Wonder what would be on the CITES? :rolleyes:
 
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BleuSaphir said:
It mainly croc, python, and maybe lizard.
I never heard of CITES for ostrich. It may be needed if Somali Ostrich was used? Maybe. Not sure.
Most ostrich leather are sourced Common Ostrich which is not endangered. These are farmed animals as well.
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I have a CITES document from Delvaux but it simply says that the ostrich used is not from a protected species. My SA told me to carry it to prove it isn't from a protected species.
 
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