Celine price increase

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#213
iluvmybags said:
A lot of designers have the bag limit/30 day period. Saks and Neimans have been doing this for years. It usually happens when stock is limited and resellers are buying them up and selling them above retail on eBay. 2 bags/30 day period is actually generous, as most designers limit you to one! (and it's per style, not designer) I was browsing eBay yesterday and was sickened by the inventory and prices of some eBay sellers. I know a lot of those sellers bought their bags before the price increase, yet they're asking above the CURRENT retail price. I realize there are eBay/pp fees, but when you do an auction, the eBay fees are $100 max, so the fees aren't as high as the profit some of these sellers stand to make.

Maybe with the limits in place, more luggage bags will become available for the buyers who really want them for themselves, rather than the resellers who want them only to profit.
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Makes sense... Although I really don't have an issue with sellers profiting, KWIM? There are some who are outright greedy, and I don't agree with that, but hey... that's business. Everyone is in everything for a profit.
 
#214
iluvmybags said:

Maybe with the limits in place, more luggage bags will become available for the buyers who really want them for themselves, rather than the resellers who want them only to profit.
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Agree :yes:


There are ways around the limits if you are really purchasing the bags for your own use. I don't have any problem with Celine trying to get the bags into the hands of their customers, and limit availability to resellers.
 
#218
iluvmybags said:
A lot of designers have the bag limit/30 day period. Saks and Neimans have been doing this for years. It usually happens when stock is limited and resellers are buying them up and selling them above retail on eBay. 2 bags/30 day period is actually generous, as most designers limit you to one! (and it's per style, not designer) I was browsing eBay yesterday and was sickened by the inventory and prices of some eBay sellers. I know a lot of those sellers bought their bags before the price increase, yet they're asking above the CURRENT retail price. I realize there are eBay/pp fees, but when you do an auction, the eBay fees are $100 max, so the fees aren't as high as the profit some of these sellers stand to make.

Maybe with the limits in place, more luggage bags will become available for the buyers who really want them for themselves, rather than the resellers who want them only to profit.
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I hope it is appropriate to comment, but several of us on here are resellers. Fees on eBay are not a minimum of $100. Fees in general between eBay and PayPal are approximately 10% of the purchase price including shipping, which I for one always insist on insurance and thus adds another 50 to the price. Furthermore, the vast majority of the bags I sell go to women in other countries where Celine does not exist. It is actually very rare for me to sell to someone in the US, because most can get them themselves. Thus while I do understand the idea of making them accessible to everyone who wants them, there is nothing wrong with the free market where those of us who work at this, obtain bags and make them available to those who cannot get them or find them because they don't put in the time and energy we do. How else can I fund my next personal Celine purchase??? :)
Ps yesterday I had a buyer accuse me that my mini on eBay was fake because I was selling below retail (2400), so as a seller you really can't win.
 
#219
fandmcarebear said:
I hope it is appropriate to comment, but several of us on here are resellers. Fees on eBay are not a minimum of $100. Fees in general between eBay and PayPal are approximately 10% of the purchase price including shipping,
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When you do an auction style listing, ebay fees are 9% of the final cost up to a maximum of $100 --
9.0% and applied to the total amount of the sale —including shipping (capped at $100)
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Fixed Price listings are subject to a stepping scale, and the fees can go higher than $100. That's why so many sellers are now doing auctions rather than BIN/Best Offer listings -- the final fees are lower for an auction style listing
Equal to or Over $1000.01 --
11% of the initial $50.00, plus 6% of the initial $50.01 - $1,000.00 plus 2.0% of the remaining closing value balance ($1,000.01 - closing value)
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#220
FYI -- flat case went up to $475 (from $440). According to my Barneys SA, Celine prices went up across the board and aren't just reserved for the luggage and phantom bags
 
#221
iluvmybags said:
When you do an auction style listing, ebay fees are 9% of the final cost up to a maximum of $100 --

Fixed Price listings are subject to a stepping scale, and the fees can go higher than $100. That's why so many sellers are now doing auctions rather than BIN/Best Offer listings -- the final fees are lower for an auction style listing
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I am certainly not arguing about the best way to sell on eBay, that was of course not the point of my explanation, and furthermore you have missed the 3-4% fees charged by PayPal. So between the two, depending on how you list, it is over 100. Again not the point, and certainly not a conversation for here either. We can agree to disagree.
 
#222
jenaywins said:
Makes sense... Although I really don't have an issue with sellers profiting, KWIM? There are some who are outright greedy, and I don't agree with that, but hey... that's business. Everyone is in everything for a profit.
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I have no problem with sellers selling for a small profit if they buy a bag and decide they don't want it or it won't work, and they can't return it -- but if it's possible to return, I'd rather see that person return the bag to the retailer so that someone else could have the chance to buy it.

I do have a problem with sellers who buy up bags that people are actively looking for and list them above retail cost -- especially when the seller KNOWS that people are actively looking for those bags at retail cost.

How many people here have been actively looking for a pink mini? And how many pink mini's are currently listed on ebay (or have been listed in the past few weeks) far above retail cost? That, IMO, is selfish and greedy and I don't approve of it.

(I feel this way about ANYTHING that's HTF and currently being sold on ebay -- and yes, I AM an ebay seller. But if I have something I know other people want or are looking for, I do a 99 cent/no reserve auction with a BIN price that's equal to my cost, incl fees and let the bidders determine the final cost.)
 
#223
iluvmybags said:
FYI -- flat case went up to $475 (from $440). According to my Barneys SA, Celine prices went up across the board and aren't just reserved for the luggage and phantom bags
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The hibiscus orange pouch was $470 BEFORE the increase on Friday (i was quoted this price when i preordered back in november). The fall ones were $440.
 
#224
fandmcarebear said:
I am certainly not arguing about the best way to sell on eBay, that was of course not the point of my explanation, and furthermore you have missed the 3-4% fees charged by PayPal. So between the two, depending on how you list, it is over 100. Again not the point, and certainly not a conversation for here either. We can agree to disagree.
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No, I'm not looking for an argument -- what I originally said was
I realize there are eBay/pp fees, but when you do an auction, the eBay fees are $100 max, so the fees aren't as high as the profit some of these sellers stand to make.
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my point was that the excuse about ebay fees being so high is not entirely true, because auction style listings are only charged $100 max by ebay (and yes, there are paypal fees of 2.9% +.30). I don't think it's fair to mislead buyers into thinking that sellers are being charged hundreds of dollars in fees. When you add up all the fees, there's a far greater profit being made on ebay and that's what I don't like seeing.
 
#225
ilsecita said:
The hibiscus orange pouch was $470 BEFORE the increase on Friday (i was quoted this price when i preordered back in november). The fall ones were $440.
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I just figured they'd recently gone up because my SA told me she had the Beige/Black for $440 just last week?:confused1:
was the beige/black from fall?
 
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