Buffy Saint-Marie's Fall From Grace

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Did anyone watch the 5th Estate tonight? I wanted so much to believe that Buffy Saint Marie was indeed Indigenous, but the evidence presented tonight is irrefutable.
The fallout from this is something I don't think she can recover from.
How sad at the age of 82 her fall from grace will hurt so many others who believed in her.
 
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I meant to watch it and forgot, but I have been reading about it.

Now that I look closely, she even looks more Italian than Indigenous. This really is so bizarre.
 
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The evidence presented makes it impossible to believe it isn't true.
The most puzzling thing is why on earth she created this lie, and how she responded when her brother tried to inform PBS (prior to her appearance on Sesame Street) that Buffy was caucasian.
I don't believe what she accused her brother of, and have to think she's a fantasist at best, and a sociopath at worst.
 
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I just watched it on Youtube. What a horrible thing she did to her brother, especially waiting until after his death. I once saw her at Ontario Place (RIP). I liked her but never liked the excessive tremolo wobble in her voice.

I think the government should revoke her postage stamps and Order Of Canada. What do you think?
 
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I just watched it on YouTube. Horrendous treatment of her brother (and his family)! The evidence is irrefutable and she is despicable. I am more outraged by the threats against her brother than her Fauxcahontas act. Not only did she write that horrible letter to him, but then she waited until after he died to start publicly accusing him of heinous acts (so he couldn’t sue her for defamation of character). How evil! Glad the truth is out there, albeit decades too late.

How/why did Canada claim her as one of its own? Did she have Canadian citizenship? I would think that was impossible given the facts of her birth. It’s one thing to fool naive journalists and the public and quite another to fool a government.

It is now clear that her “truth” is nothing but a lie from beginning to end. Glad she has been exposed.
 
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How very sad. An article on Indianz.com reports that her younger sister and Buffy's son took DNA tests and were found to be closely related, dispelling any possibility of her being adopted.

Buffy was also claiming Indian heritage through her mother, but her sister's DNA showed no Indian ancestry.

Buffy's son says his mother claims to be Indigenous through "naturalization" not blood lineage.

The article also speculates that she retired when she got wind of the Fourth Estate investigation which was in production for nearly 2 years.

indianz.com

Canadian documentary focuses on ‘Icon’ who based career on Native identity

A Canadian news documentary focuses on the Native identity claims of one of the most celebrated performers in entertainment history.
indianz.com indianz.com

There were a couple other singer-songwriters who publicized dubious claims of Indian ancestry back in the 1960s, 1970s like Wayne Newton, but the claims fell away through the years.
 
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I live in the city close to the Reservation she claims to have been adopted from (Piapot) The news is so bizarre. A lot of First Nation groups are hurt, others are standing by her saying she’s part of an honorary family because of the way she stood for “culture”
She claimed to be part of the Sixties Scoop so not a lot of paperwork was asked from her to confirm she was Canadian.
She needs to have her accolades striped (IMO) and she has always claimed to be the first “Indian to win an Oscar” sheesh.
The things people do for attention.
 
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Swanky said:
Who? I must be living under a rock! She's a celeb?
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I’d never heard of her before either. As near as I can tell she was like Rachel Dolezal, except instead of pretending to be black, she passed herself off as being indigenous Canadian. She has made her career off of the deception and gained prestige and adulation for about 50 years.
 
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She was a writer on the song “love lift us up where we belong” from the film An Officer and A Gentleman. That’s where the Oscar comes in. She used that and her “Indigenous” heritage to form a career
 
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TC1 said:
I live in the city close to the Reservation she claims to have been adopted from (Piapot) The news is so bizarre. A lot of First Nation groups are hurt, others are standing by her saying she’s part of an honorary family because of the way she stood for “culture”
She claimed to be part of the Sixties Scoop so not a lot of paperwork was asked from her to confirm she was Canadian.
She needs to have her accolades striped (IMO) and she has always claimed to be the first “Indian to win an Oscar” sheesh.
The things people do for attention.
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Except she was scooped a full decade before the scooping began.

I've noticed she's terrible at answering questions when interviewed and goes straight to something prepared when there's a pause.
 
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Jayne1 said:
Except she was scooped a full decade before the scooping began.

I've noticed she's terrible at answering questions when interviewed and goes straight to something prepared when there's a pause.
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The “Scoop” dates don’t add up.. but that was one thing people were hesitant to address because it has been very hurtful for some.
The fact that she lied about her birth certificate and got away with it was crazy. It’s right there in print. As TFE and CBC have shown.
 
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This gets into a shady, gray area of where do you draw the line? Today when someone self-identifies their gender, everyone is expected to accept it. That would have been unthinkable 20 years ago. This woman self-identifies as being indigenous and it’s a problem. Who is to say that in another 20 years it won’t be accepted as well?
 
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