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najse22

najse22

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Hi everyone!

I've recently made the decision not to buy bags from companies, that use fur. (Which is really hard as I love many bags form companies that do use fur). So I was wondering if anyone had tips on great bag companies, that don't use fur?
Help would be much appreciated!
( I do still wish to wear leather, so it doesn't have to be vegan bags.)
 
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As far as I know the only 'premier' company only Stella McCartney doesn't use fur, but of course you prob know that.

I guess the problem is all leather had fur on originally. Personally, I think there's more of a sustainability/welfare challenge with reptile skin. I would think very few 'contemporary' designers have used fur but only use hairless-leather not for any particular reason except price point.

Very few companies do actually use fur on bags and if they do they are few and far between, but perhaps you might avoid companies that actually started as furriers like Fendi and Marni.
 
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papertiger said:
As far as I know the only 'premier' company only Stella McCartney doesn't use fur, but of course you prob know that.

I guess the problem is all leather had fur on originally. Personally, I think there's more of a sustainability/welfare challenge with reptile skin. I would think very few 'contemporary' designers have used fur but only use hairless-leather not for any particular reason except price point.

Very few companies do actually use fur on bags and if they do they are few and far between, but perhaps you might avoid companies that actually started as furriers like Fendi and Marni.
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Thank you so much for your answer, Papertiger!:smile1:

Yes, Stella McCartney is definately an option!

My "problem" is, that I don't want bags from companies, that use fur at all.
For example, I have really had a fascination with Marc Jacobs bags, but he uses fur on coats among other things, so I have decided against buying anymore of his bags.

(But after doing a little research, I've found out that Calvin Klein, Tommy Hillfiger and Ralph Lauren allegedly don't use fur. But I have no idea how the quality of their bags are. Then I've looked into a french brand called Velvetine. The quality of the bags and leather should be really nice and they are made in France and Portugal. And I can't see any fur on their website. Really nice designs too. But I think they use python in some of their designs. I'm not too familiar with the processes of making excotic bags, do the snakes suffer? I really hope not, as I really have my eyes on one of their (non-python) bags..)
 
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Love4H said:
And you don't take medication, don't use cars or public transportation and obviously eat only vegan?
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Ehm, if you read my post, you will see, that I'm okay with leather as I do eat beef (and other types of meat, but I buy free range meat, when possible).

I'm not out to save the world or anything, I just don't agree with the fur business, as the animals are kept in small cages with no bedding. And some of the shadier fur comes from contries where the animals are skinned alive and then thrown on a pile, still alive.
If they started to make free range fur, I might change my mind about the industry, but as of now it just leaves me with a bitter taste..

I can't see anything wrong in trying to improve myself in some areas, just because I can't improve myself in all areas.
So I really don't see your point.
 
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najse22 said:
Ehm, if you read my post, you will see, that I'm okay with leather as I do eat beef (and other types of meat, but I buy free range meat, when possible).

I'm not out to save the world or anything, I just don't agree with the fur business, as the animals are kept in small cages with no bedding. And some of the shadier fur comes from contries where the animals are skinned alive and then thrown on a pile, still alive.
If they started to make free range fur, I might change my mind about the industry, but as of now it just leaves me with a bitter taste..

I can't see anything wrong in trying to improve myself in some areas, just because I can't improve myself in all areas.
So I really don't see your point.
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You may find this useful as I sometimes refer to it http://m.humanesociety.org/issues/fur_fashion/tips/fur-free_shopping.html#.U0q2ESe9KK1 and I am researching the subject. I share your concerns about fur and the unacceptable treatment of animals. also concerned about the ecological impact of fur production which is briefly discussed here:
http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/sustainable-fashion-blog/is-fur-trade-sustainable
 
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ladysarah said:
You may find this useful as I sometimes refer to it http://m.humanesociety.org/issues/fur_fashion/tips/fur-free_shopping.html#.U0q2ESe9KK1 and I am researching the subject. I share your concerns about fur and the unacceptable treatment of animals. also concerned about the ecological impact of fur production which is briefly discussed here:
http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/sustainable-fashion-blog/is-fur-trade-sustainable
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Hi ladysarah,
thank you so much!
I really find the point about the ecological impact interesting, as I hadn't even thought about that!
Thanks Again:smile1:.
 
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And now back to the subject of the tread! I've also found out that Vivienne Westwood doesn't use fur. But I find the logo to be bit much on some of the designs, the production origin differs from design to design, and again, I am not sure about the quality.
Also, the only reason I suspect that Velvetine might use python is, that it is mentioned on their website, but I havn't actually been able to find as much as a single photo of a Velvetine python bag (fingers crossed :) ).
 
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najse22 said:
And now back to the subject of the tread! I've also found out that Vivienne Westwood doesn't use fur. But I find the logo to be bit much on some of the designs, the production origin differs from design to design, and again, I am not sure about the quality.
Also, the only reason I suspect that Velvetine might use python is, that it is mentioned on their website, but I havn't actually been able to find as much as a single photo of a Velvetine python bag (fingers crossed :) ).
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najse, I think it's great (even refreshing) for each person to draw their own lines of delineation regards ethics. Good for you that you march to the beat of your own drum! There is a vintage shop in London that will not resale any fur or reptile skin but is happy to take other leather so you are not alone in this distinction. I've had lots of fur (mostly vintage but some not) and croc/python (vintage and new) and I suppose I am a total hypocrite. I'm totally against cheap fur/skin and unethical treatment of animals (the stories that come through social media are worse than any horror stories) and I've tried to buy anything new from reputable ethical sources but I can only go by what I'm fed from these brands tell me, however I do realise these are commercial entities. I applaud you for opting out of the stampede towards more hedonistic trophies without thinking what's behind them or following some extreme saintly route that often means valuing plastic and chemical over organic and natural.

Anyway, I actually think that Westwood is a very good candidate for you. I don't think I've seen any python or fur (apart from sheepskin) from her, they don't make a big deal about it either. As for those HUGE logos, I hated them too but check out her new bags because the logo seems to have been relegated to a minor role on most http://www.viviennewestwood.co.uk/shop/womens-accessories/womens-bags/.

It would surprise me greatly if Calvin Klein doesn't use fur and I know that Ralph Lauren uses both fur and skins since I know employees in both companies. I don't know Velvetine but I have noticed that some contemporary brands write 'python' when they mean python-print (you can usually tell from the price).
 
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ladysarah said:
You may find this useful as I sometimes refer to it http://m.humanesociety.org/issues/fur_fashion/tips/fur-free_shopping.html#.U0q2ESe9KK1 and I am researching the subject. I share your concerns about fur and the unacceptable treatment of animals. also concerned about the ecological impact of fur production which is briefly discussed here:
http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/sustainable-fashion-blog/is-fur-trade-sustainable
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Wow, thanks again Lady Sarah, for your info. There are quite a few companies on that list, makes me feel a tad better about buying. However, I am disappointed in some of the premiere stores (hello Nordstrom) for still selling furs.
 
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najse22 said:
Thank you so much for your answer, Papertiger!:smile1:

Yes, Stella McCartney is definately an option!

My "problem" is, that I don't want bags from companies, that use fur at all.
For example, I have really had a fascination with Marc Jacobs bags, but he uses fur on coats among other things, so I have decided against buying anymore of his bags.

(But after doing a little research, I've found out that Calvin Klein, Tommy Hillfiger and Ralph Lauren allegedly don't use fur. But I have no idea how the quality of their bags are. Then I've looked into a french brand called Velvetine. The quality of the bags and leather should be really nice and they are made in France and Portugal. And I can't see any fur on their website. Really nice designs too. But I think they use python in some of their designs. I'm not too familiar with the processes of making excotic bags, do the snakes suffer? I really hope not, as I really have my eyes on one of their (non-python) bags..)
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I stand corrected Calvin Klein has not used fur for years :cool:
 
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papertiger said:
najse, I think it's great (even refreshing) for each person to draw their own lines of delineation regards ethics. Good for you that you march to the beat of your own drum! There is a vintage shop in London that will not resale any fur or reptile skin but is happy to take other leather so you are not alone in this distinction. I've had lots of fur (mostly vintage but some not) and croc/python (vintage and new) and I suppose I am a total hypocrite. I'm totally against cheap fur/skin and unethical treatment of animals (the stories that come through social media are worse than any horror stories) and I've tried to buy anything new from reputable ethical sources but I can only go by what I'm fed from these brands tell me, however I do realise these are commercial entities. I applaud you for opting out of the stampede towards more hedonistic trophies without thinking what's behind them or following some extreme saintly route that often means valuing plastic and chemical over organic and natural.

Anyway, I actually think that Westwood is a very good candidate for you. I don't think I've seen any python or fur (apart from sheepskin) from her, they don't make a big deal about it either. As for those HUGE logos, I hated them too but check out her new bags because the logo seems to have been relegated to a minor role on most http://www.viviennewestwood.co.uk/shop/womens-accessories/womens-bags/.

It would surprise me greatly if Calvin Klein doesn't use fur and I know that Ralph Lauren uses both fur and skins since I know employees in both companies. I don't know Velvetine but I have noticed that some contemporary brands write 'python' when they mean python-print (you can usually tell from the price).
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Thank you so much for your reply!
I think it's great, that you aspire to find the origin of the things you purchase!!:smile1:

And it's great to see the Vivienne Westwood designs where the logo isn't so prominent.
And I will steer away form Ralph Lauren, thanks for the info.
The people behind Velvetine are very sweet in regards to replying on e-mails, I will try to write them to find out it it's actual python or just python print.

Again, thank you for your kind reply:smile1:!
 
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