Wait until others post if it's ok to give a recommendation. Again, I don't do molded footwear but have never seen a Chanel Camillia jelly without logo and made in stamps in the mold.
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Wait until others post if it's ok to give a recommendation. Again, I don't do molded footwear but have never seen a Chanel Camillia jelly without logo and made in stamps in the mold.
Hello shoes experts, please help me authenticate these Prada suede kitten pumps.
I've never owned any Prada shoes before but they look a little off comparing to other similar designer shoes. But what do I know. Any helps or opinions are greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much
I've never owned any Prada shoes before but they look a little off comparing to other similar designer shoes. But what do I know. Any helps or opinions are greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much
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Updates: I send them to Etinceler Authentications and they turned out fake. I think Etinceler are right. Now I really can't understand why the first authentication gave me opposite answer
. I should ask refund from them! 
Updates: I send them to Etinceler Authentications and they turned out fake. I think Etinceler are right. Now I really can't understand why the first authentication gave me opposite answer
A quick google search of your identical shoes show that yours are in fact different than the others that have been posted. You can also get reviews of ****************** by googling their name and the word reviews. You should do that with all companies like this.
I can explain why AF gave you bad information. As pointed out by Audreylita, there's a lot of information to be found on them in searches, much of it in the purse forum's ebay section.Updates: I send them to Etinceler Authentications and they turned out fake. I think Etinceler are right. Now I really can't understand why the first authentication gave me opposite answer
AF has only a limited number of authenticators who do multiple, unlike some other (more highly recommended) companies that use lots brand specialists, each of whom knows the brands.
Because they're "authenticators" aren't expert in the brands they do, they make many mistakes. Those mistakes have been highly publicized and have cost buyers and sellers a lot of money!
Yes, you ABSOLUTELY should demand a full refund from them.
I personally would only use an authenticator who is knowledgeable in one area. Kind of like anything else in life.
You know that old saying, a jack of all trades and a master of none.
In the end I find doing my own google searches usually gives me the answers I need.
You know that old saying, a jack of all trades and a master of none.
In the end I find doing my own google searches usually gives me the answers I need.
Item: Salvatore Ferragamo Varas
Link: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Salvator...U-7-RRP-595-/111716278395?hash=item1a02cf207b
Seller: hi.street.goodies
Hi Guys! Long time lurker, it's really about time I signed up!
I got a bit click happy, I should have checked on here first.
What do we think about these babies? I'm concerned about that leather icon but I know these shoes have been around a long time and I'm not sure if that could be normal for some.
Any assistance greatly appreciated!
Link: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Salvator...U-7-RRP-595-/111716278395?hash=item1a02cf207b
Seller: hi.street.goodies
Hi Guys! Long time lurker, it's really about time I signed up!
I got a bit click happy, I should have checked on here first.
What do we think about these babies? I'm concerned about that leather icon but I know these shoes have been around a long time and I'm not sure if that could be normal for some.
Any assistance greatly appreciated!
I have specifically said that I won't do Jellies over and over but also pointed out that there were obvious features wrong with the shoes. i did not want to get into an Internet discussion discussing a company where information regarding expertise is easily available on the internet but must take exception to comments about general expertise.If this board really believes that general expertise isn't good enough for authentication opinions as opposed to expertise on a specific label then I really should stop posting here on the various shoe threads.Aside from the possible exception of Vuitton and probably Prada my knowledge is not label specific.
I'm not expert on specific labels but I am expert on shoe construction.
IMO it's not about an authenticator's generalized knowledge vs. label specific knowledge but about the knowledge of the specific authenticator.
You guys can post back and tell me if you want me to continue to volunteer here and I take no offense if this board would rather have label specific volunteers.
I understand that the statements made were not at all directed at me and were directed at a company that has been called on numerous mistakes on numerous boards but sadly those comments do apply to me as well.
I'm not expert on specific labels but I am expert on shoe construction.
IMO it's not about an authenticator's generalized knowledge vs. label specific knowledge but about the knowledge of the specific authenticator.
You guys can post back and tell me if you want me to continue to volunteer here and I take no offense if this board would rather have label specific volunteers.
I understand that the statements made were not at all directed at me and were directed at a company that has been called on numerous mistakes on numerous boards but sadly those comments do apply to me as well.
Shuze, your knowledge of shoes and their construction has been spot on. I think you've misunderstood the criticism directed toward a company.
My comments were in reference to NOT generalized knowledge but on the specific company and it's history of inaccurate authentications.
In that case, I stand by my opinion because that company accepts payment for its supposed expertise and far too often, gets it wrong! And the company's mistakes can and do costs its clients large amounts of money and can hurt the reputation of honest sellers in the many instances where they've deemed authentic items as fake as well as documented cases where they've done professional authentications for sellers. In those cases, the sellers paid for documentation prior to listing their items so they wouldn't accidently list a fake. Yet the authentications they received were wrong, the sellers listed fakes and ultimately received dings to their accounts when those fakes (obvious fakes, BTW) were removed by ebay.
I specifically recall Coach and Dooney mistakes. If you'd like, I can find links to the posts on TPF that document the errors.
In cases such as those as well as the buyer of the fake Chanel jellies, this company shouldn't be authenticating Chanel. (Although not expert, I recall Chanel bag authentication errors they made too.) Remember, the buyer of the Chanel jellies used that company for a professional authentication and didn't get what she paid for. Fortunately for her, there were enough questions that she sought an opinion from Etinceler, a PROVEN Chanel expert company and got an accurate decision.
My point is that if a company is going to accept payment for professional services, they'd darned well know what they're doing and be (wo)man enough to know the limits of their knowledg and refund payments when they cannot conclusively say that an item is genuine or counterfeit.
I completely agree with everything you said but I had to stand up against generalized statements that authenticators who do multiple labels are less valid than those who only do one-it all depends on the authenticator and I had to respond to the "jack of all trades" comments as they certainly apply to me as well.
Yes, that company has been called on numerous mistakes but the issue is obviously not a problem of using authenticators with general knowledge-the problem is the specific authenticators used.
Yes, that company has been called on numerous mistakes but the issue is obviously not a problem of using authenticators with general knowledge-the problem is the specific authenticators used.
I can also do multiple labels (with expertise) and a few others where I'm comfortable enough with my knowledge to know an item is fake.
But the difference is that on the brands I don't have the expertise, I would never presume to accept payment (as a professional) to issue an opinion on it because I believe that those who get paid for their expertise should be real experts.
OTOH, I'm comfortable enough with to look at a plastic LV with oval Os and state it's fake. Or I will comment that a Chanel bag with serial number 10218184 is fake although I am not qualified to issue a professional opinion.
IMO, a company that advertises itself as professional authenticators has to meet a higher level of credibility than the posters here do.
Does that make sense?
Please continue to share your knowledge here! There are very few shoe experts and I'd venture to say that Audreylita appreciates the help. (My shoe knowledge certainly isn't as extensive as either yours or Audrey's but I like to read and help where I can.
Oh my, just read all the last posts. Certainly wasn't referring to shuze at all. Her knowledge of shoes is obvious. This company that the original poster referenced authenticates everything including shoes, purses, jewelry, sunglasses, belts, watches . . . from every designer which is listed from A to Z on their site.
My comment was taken completely out of context and I do apologize for any misunderstanding. That is the problem with copy on a computer screen or texts as well, things can be interpreted in a way that the writer did not intend.
My comment was taken completely out of context and I do apologize for any misunderstanding. That is the problem with copy on a computer screen or texts as well, things can be interpreted in a way that the writer did not intend.
