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#8,403
BeenBurned said:
Thank you for your clear and educational post.
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Thanks. I just don't want to come off as "know it all" but I do think it's important to correct misconceptions when they're posted. I know some of the authentication boards here are strictly "genuine" or "counterfeit" without much discussion so I'm not sure if my posts are appropriate.
 
#8,405
shuze said:
Thanks. I just don't want to come off as "know it all" but I do think it's important to correct misconceptions when they're posted. I know some of the authentication boards here are strictly "genuine" or "counterfeit" without much discussion so I'm not sure if my posts are appropriate.
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I think the mods go along with the tone and approach of the authenticators. On the AT threads I participate on, the rules are pretty loose because we (authenticators) like to add more info to educate though try to be careful not to help the counterfeiters improve their fakes.
 
#8,406
BeenBurned said:
I think the mods go along with the tone and approach of the authenticators. On the AT threads I participate on, the rules are pretty loose because we (authenticators) like to add more info to educate though try to be careful not to help the counterfeiters improve their fakes.
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I agree to a point BB but the truth is that the counterfeiters have the same access to authentic product that we do. The "good" ones buy product at retail and completely take it apart to make their patterns so the ones that aren't lazy AH's totally can see every single detail of the piece. That's why the superfakes are as good as they are and the fonts are getting better and better but there's always the slightest difference in "the hand" that allows us to nail the fakes. The lazy ones makes such obvious fakes that it doesn't matter as those pieces are the total junk that will have a million things wrong with them beside that "extra" stitch or whatever.

I try not to give out a ton of detail on the labels that I give authentication opinions on but I'm not sure that it really matters in reality.
 
#8,407
I'm wondering what "misconceptions" you are seeking to correct with your post? If it's about the black bottoms that NR puts on I can assure you that that happens. That's the only thing I could see that you might be responding to so I wanted to ask!!
 
#8,408
devik said:
I'm wondering what "misconceptions" you are seeking to correct with your post? If it's about the black bottoms that NR puts on I can assure you that that happens. That's the only thing I could see that you might be responding to so I wanted to ask!!
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I'm responding that IMO it's a misconception that in general, changes made on the soling of heavily discounted shoes sold at retail dumping grounds are made strictly because of wear from on the floor display. Again, that is just my opinion.
 
#8,409
shuze said:
I'm responding that IMO it's a misconception that in general, changes made on the soling of heavily discounted shoes sold at retail dumping grounds are made strictly because of wear from on the floor display. Again, that is just my opinion.
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Well, in the case of NR, that is incorrect - and typically these are not floor displays. They're what's called "WORN AND REFURBISHED." You can see it discussed all over the NR thread like here http://forum.purseblog.com/general-shopping/post-your-nordstrom-rack-bargains-551004-364.html and this one as well http://forum.purseblog.com/the-glass-slipper/nordstrom-rack-worn-and-refinished-shoes-447718.html

It comes up a lot on tPF and I've definitely seen it myself at a NR store as recently as last week.
 
#8,411
shuze said:
??? I don't think you understood my posts. I agree and have clearly stated that for the most part refinished soles are indicative of worn and returned shoes.
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Perhaps I missed it but I didn't see that you stated that anywhere. The way your long post started led me to believe you were refuting such a claim:

shuze said:
I have no knowledge on the specifics of anyone's blacked out sole shoes...
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If anything, that statement is to me stating the opposite of what you just said.

You also referenced "misconceptions" and I don't see anything else you presented that's been discussed here recently, except for my own statements about the blacked-out soles at NR.

So I was just clarifying in case that's what it was about. If not, then great! Thanks!
 
#8,413
devik said:
Perhaps I missed it but I didn't see that you stated that anywhere. The way your long post started led me to believe you were refuting such a claim:



If anything, that statement is to me stating the opposite of what you just said.

You also referenced "misconceptions" and I don't see anything else you presented that's been discussed here recently, except for my own statements about the blacked-out soles at NR.

So I was just clarifying in case that's what it was about. If not, then great! Thanks!
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YES, soling that shows wear is frequently covered for resale at discount outlets that usually belong to the original retailer. I have never been in NR and am speaking in generalities of industry practices.

The OP at some point (and I am not interested in going back pages) was, I BELIEVE, told that the soling change was done because the shoe had been on display and that IMO is a misconception.
 
#8,414
GAinLA said:
Good morning,

I am interested in buying these shoes http://www.ebay.com/itm/YSL-Yves-Sa...Domain_0&hash=item3f4dd9a385&autorefresh=true and wanted to get an opinion regarding authentication.

Also, how is the sizing on these. I usually wear a 9.5 or 10 depending on the shoe. Will these fit ok? Thank you in advance for your assistance.
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They look fine to me although I would have liked to see the insole and stamping. IMO a 40 is a 9.5 so you'd probably wear a 40 or 40.5

No one can tell you if they'll actually fit or not but the size seems to be right in there.
 
#8,415
shuze said:
They look fine to me although I would have liked to see the insole and stamping. IMO a 40 is a 9.5 so you'd probably wear a 40 or 40.5

No one can tell you if they'll actually fit or not but the size seems to be right in there.
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Thank you Shuze. Is there anything in particular I'm looking for in the insole and stamping? BTW where and what is the "stamping"?

Thank you again.
 
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