Authenticate This PRADA

[IntheOcean]

Hello @Bratty1919 So sorry. This thread was suggested by one of your fellow authenticators.
Where should I post it?

When I commented on your thread in the Miu Miu forum, I suggested that you ask the authenticators here first IF they would look at the item you want to get authenticated, and then post with the additional pictures. There's no authenticators for Miu Miu right now and Prada is the parent brand, so I figured, the ladies who know Prada might agree to help you.

 

[green_street]

When I commented on your thread in the Miu Miu forum, I suggested that you ask the authenticators here first IF they would look at the item you want to get authenticated, and then post with the additional pictures. There's no authenticators for Miu Miu right now and Prada is the parent brand, so I figured, the ladies who know Prada might agree to help you.

Hello @IntheOcean . I understand. Thank you so much for your help.

 

[IntheOcean]

Hello @IntheOcean . I understand. Thank you so much for your help.

No problem. You can try and look into paid authenticating services.

 

[Deleted member 709276]

Hi,

I purchased a Prada Double Zip Camera bag through eBay and received it today. It was advertised as authentic with the authenticity cards so I didn't question the origin however now it has arrived there are a few things that seem wrong and the more I research the more I believe it to be a dupe. As I've purchased I can't include the listing details but the seller was very professional, has great feedback and I believe if it isn't real they are simply a non expert who sold it in good faith based on trusting the authenticity cards. I'm hoping to get some indication on authenticity or idea if anyone has seen this dupe before. I have tried to contact Prada and they literally cut me off. My suspicions are due to;

• No Prada logo engraved on strap hardware
• 'Vitello Phenix' is not on list of Prada leathers that I can find - IS THIS A PRADA LEATHER OR SAMPLE PERHAPS??
• Dustbag should be cotton and include a label with 100% cotton made In Italy - weird fabric and no label in dust bag
• Made in Turkey - I know sometimes the bags are manufactured elsewhere other than Italy but this also put me off
• Zips don’t run very smooth although they are riri zips which I believe to be ones Prada use
• Zip pulls are leather tabs rather than being metal - I haven't seen many like this on other Prada bags
• Strap isn't detachable with clips - fixed on with a loop. This might be a feature of the small camera bag? whereas the other double zip ones I've seen have clip on straps
• QA tag has three numbers but also a letter - not sure if that's typical of Prada as everything I read says just numbers
• Can't find this exact version on any traditional outlets e.g. prada website, farfetch, - I can find the mini camera bag and the double zip with different zips and straps but when I search 'prada bandoliera vitello phenix 1bh079' I only get Amazon or peer to peer second hand/bought sellers. However I have found one youtube video where the author claims they bought it from an outlet so maybe it was a sample sale item?

Apologies as I know I may be answering my own question with these details or wishful thinking however if it is a fake it is very good in some respects e.g. groove in the R of the logo and the stitching/quality is amazing. Hence why it might be a sample or just very old style of bag which has been iterated on. I am under no impressed it is any of the new style camera bags. However even if it is a good copy I do not want to pay what I did for a fake/dupe as I believe it will deteriorate quicker. I saw it and went for it as I thought it was a lucky find but I would much rather stump up an extra couple of hundred and buy from an official outlet.

Any help would be amazing!

 

[Bratty1919]

Hi,

I purchased a Prada Double Zip Camera bag through eBay and received it today. It was advertised as authentic with the authenticity cards so I didn't question the origin however now it has arrived there are a few things that seem wrong and the more I research the more I believe it to be a dupe. As I've purchased I can't include the listing details but the seller was very professional, has great feedback and I believe if it isn't real they are simply a non expert who sold it in good faith based on trusting the authenticity cards. I'm hoping to get some indication on authenticity or idea if anyone has seen this dupe before. I have tried to contact Prada and they literally cut me off. My suspicions are due to;

• No Prada logo engraved on strap hardware
• 'Vitello Phenix' is not on list of Prada leathers that I can find - IS THIS A PRADA LEATHER OR SAMPLE PERHAPS??
• Dustbag should be cotton and include a label with 100% cotton made In Italy - weird fabric and no label in dust bag
• Made in Turkey - I know sometimes the bags are manufactured elsewhere other than Italy but this also put me off
• Zips don’t run very smooth although they are riri zips which I believe to be ones Prada use
• Zip pulls are leather tabs rather than being metal - I haven't seen many like this on other Prada bags
• Strap isn't detachable with clips - fixed on with a loop. This might be a feature of the small camera bag? whereas the other double zip ones I've seen have clip on straps
• QA tag has three numbers but also a letter - not sure if that's typical of Prada as everything I read says just numbers
• Can't find this exact version on any traditional outlets e.g. prada website, farfetch, - I can find the mini camera bag and the double zip with different zips and straps but when I search 'prada bandoliera vitello phenix 1bh079' I only get Amazon or peer to peer second hand/bought sellers. However I have found one youtube video where the author claims they bought it from an outlet so maybe it was a sample sale item?

Apologies as I know I may be answering my own question with these details or wishful thinking however if it is a fake it is very good in some respects e.g. groove in the R of the logo and the stitching/quality is amazing. Hence why it might be a sample or just very old style of bag which has been iterated on. I am under no impressed it is any of the new style camera bags. However even if it is a good copy I do not want to pay what I did for a fake/dupe as I believe it will deteriorate quicker. I saw it and went for it as I thought it was a lucky find but I would much rather stump up an extra couple of hundred and buy from an official outlet.

Any help would be amazing!

Please see posts elsewhere- do not post clues about authenticity!

 

[missfiggy]

Hi,

I purchased a Prada Double Zip Camera bag through eBay and received it today. It was advertised as authentic with the authenticity cards so I didn't question the origin however now it has arrived there are a few things that seem wrong and the more I research the more I believe it to be a dupe. As I've purchased I can't include the listing details but the seller was very professional, has great feedback and I believe if it isn't real they are simply a non expert who sold it in good faith based on trusting the authenticity cards. I'm hoping to get some indication on authenticity or idea if anyone has seen this dupe before. I have tried to contact Prada and they literally cut me off. My suspicions are due to;

• No Prada logo engraved on strap hardware
• 'Vitello Phenix' is not on list of Prada leathers that I can find - IS THIS A PRADA LEATHER OR SAMPLE PERHAPS??
• Dustbag should be cotton and include a label with 100% cotton made In Italy - weird fabric and no label in dust bag
• Made in Turkey - I know sometimes the bags are manufactured elsewhere other than Italy but this also put me off
• Zips don’t run very smooth although they are riri zips which I believe to be ones Prada use
• Zip pulls are leather tabs rather than being metal - I haven't seen many like this on other Prada bags
• Strap isn't detachable with clips - fixed on with a loop. This might be a feature of the small camera bag? whereas the other double zip ones I've seen have clip on straps
• QA tag has three numbers but also a letter - not sure if that's typical of Prada as everything I read says just numbers
• Can't find this exact version on any traditional outlets e.g. prada website, farfetch, - I can find the mini camera bag and the double zip with different zips and straps but when I search 'prada bandoliera vitello phenix 1bh079' I only get Amazon or peer to peer second hand/bought sellers. However I have found one youtube video where the author claims they bought it from an outlet so maybe it was a sample sale item?

Apologies as I know I may be answering my own question with these details or wishful thinking however if it is a fake it is very good in some respects e.g. groove in the R of the logo and the stitching/quality is amazing. Hence why it might be a sample or just very old style of bag which has been iterated on. I am under no impressed it is any of the new style camera bags. However even if it is a good copy I do not want to pay what I did for a fake/dupe as I believe it will deteriorate quicker. I saw it and went for it as I thought it was a lucky find but I would much rather stump up an extra couple of hundred and buy from an official outlet.

Any help would be amazing!

It's authentic and EVERY ONE of your suppositions regarding authenticity (gleaned, no doubt from the internet) is wrong. Prada have no interest in discussing their products with anyone who has bought them from either the secondary market or from a reseller.

 

[missfiggy]

Calmed down a bit now so - addition to the above - authenticating is not something you can learn from reading a few (or even a few hundred) internet articles/pages. Most of what is on these sites is outdated garbage, unsubstantiated rumor, wishful thinking, and urban legend, written largely by counterfeiters to try to "validate" their trash.

You have to have bought, sold, and collected authentic Prada for many, many years. You have to have knowledge of every different Prada range issued in every different geographical locality. You need to know what logos go with what styles; what linings go with what exteriors; which "tweaks" Prada have used (for their ever changing logo) on which styles; which leathers belong to which range/style for which year and which season; which colors belong with which style/range/season; which zips and tabs go with which style/range/season. You need to spend literally hours trawling counterfeiters' sites to see what trash they are producing. You need a library or a collection of thousands of photos of every aspect of every collection. It also helps to have one or two friendly Prada SAs on your side as well.

And you really don't need newbies posting willy nilly without first reading through the site, just a little bit, to discover that there is an etiquette to posting here.

Sermon over.

 

[Deleted member 709276]

Calmed down a bit now so - addition to the above - authenticating is not something you can learn from reading a few (or even a few hundred) internet articles/pages. Most of what is on these sites is outdated garbage, unsubstantiated rumor, wishful thinking, and urban legend, written largely by counterfeiters to try to "validate" their trash.

You have to have bought, sold, and collected authentic Prada for many, many years. You have to have knowledge of every different Prada range issued in every different geographical locality. You need to know what logos go with what styles; what linings go with what exteriors; which "tweaks" Prada have used (for their ever changing logo) on which styles; which leathers belong to which range/style for which year and which season; which colors belong with which style/range/season; which zips and tabs go with which style/range/season. You need to spend literally hours trawling counterfeiters' sites to see what trash they are producing. You need a library or a collection of thousands of photos of every aspect of every collection. It also helps to have one or two friendly Prada SAs on your side as well.

And you really don't need newbies posting willy nilly without first reading through the site, just a little bit, to discover that there is an etiquette to posting here.

Sermon over.

Hi

Thanks for the further explanation. Of course those websites can't be trusted hence why I ended up on this forum.

I'm sorry you feel I have posted willy nilly without reading the site I obviously did and I tried to search for this style using various search terms and did not find anything. I provided these details for context, explanation or further comments. Obviously I know authenticators don't need to be told these things so I apologise as it was intended to be helpful and was obviously not necessary.

 

[missfiggy]

Hi

Thanks for the further explanation. Of course those websites can't be trusted hence why I ended up on this forum.

I'm sorry you feel I have posted willy nilly without reading the site I obviously did and I tried to search for this style using various search terms and did not find anything. I provided these details for context, explanation or further comments. Obviously I know authenticators don't need to be told these things so I apologise as it was intended to be helpful and was obviously not necessary.

Please do not pm the authenticators.

 

[missfiggy]

Perhaps some of the new people on the thread need to understand that we don't live here, that we do this VOLUNTARILY AND FOR FREE, in our own time and in our own time zone. And we also don't all live in the USA, or even the northern hemisphere. Nor are we available 24/7. Nor do we sleep with our devices.

 

[Bubach]

Hello all!

Could someone have a quick look at this one please:

Item Name: NEW $3,100 PRADA RUNWAY Brown Blue Leather INSIDE Satchel LARGE Zip BAG & Strap
Listing number: 114004242475
Seller ID: 114004242475
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-3-100-...SIDE-Satchel-LARGE-Zip-BAG-Strap/114004242475

This seller seems to be around for a while, but I have searched the forum and have not found many requests for authentication for items from this shop.

Many thanks! Stay safe everyone!

 

[missfiggy]

Hello all!

Could someone have a quick look at this one please:

Item Name: NEW $3,100 PRADA RUNWAY Brown Blue Leather INSIDE Satchel LARGE Zip BAG & Strap
Listing number: 114004242475
Seller ID: 114004242475
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-3-100-...SIDE-Satchel-LARGE-Zip-BAG-Strap/114004242475

This seller seems to be around for a while, but I have searched the forum and have not found many requests for authentication for items from this shop.

Many thanks! Stay safe everyone!

Looks authentic from the limited photos. IMHO this was not one of Prada's finer moments.

 

[IntheOcean]

Hello all!

Could someone have a quick look at this one please:

Item Name: NEW $3,100 PRADA RUNWAY Brown Blue Leather INSIDE Satchel LARGE Zip BAG & Strap
Listing number: 114004242475
Seller ID: 114004242475
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-3-100-...SIDE-Satchel-LARGE-Zip-BAG-Strap/114004242475

This seller seems to be around for a while, but I have searched the forum and have not found many requests for authentication for items from this shop.

Many thanks! Stay safe everyone!

Looks authentic from the limited photos. IMHO this was not one of Prada's finer moments.

Missfiggy, the interior of that bag is not leather, it's pleather, am I correct? It's just that in the listing the seller stated that the blue interior was also made of leather, but I clearly remember reading here on the forum that it was fake leather and the wear and tear was terrible.

 

[missfiggy]

Missfiggy, the interior of that bag is not leather, it's pleather, am I correct? It's just that in the listing the seller stated that the blue interior was also made of leather, but I clearly remember reading here on the forum that it was fake leather and the wear and tear was terrible.

Hard to tell from the photo whether the interior is leather or not. If it's pleather then you have a problem. I suspect (hope) it's probably leather and that Prada learned just a little from that terrible experiment with pleather. Perhaps ask the seller, just to be sure.

 

[IntheOcean]

Hard to tell from the photo whether the interior is leather or not. If it's pleather then you have a problem. I suspect (hope) it's probably leather and that Prada learned just a little from that terrible experiment with pleather. Perhaps ask the seller, just to be sure.

Thanks, I wasn't planning on buying that particular bag, I just wanted to clarify that interior issue. This style has been sort of on my wishlist, but because of the pleather lining I never seriously considered it. I thought all Inside bags were with pleather lining, not just some.