Michael Kors Authenticate this MICHAEL KORS

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#4,083
CinthiaZ said:
Leave your posts up please. I want to see if anyone else can see it. It might be my monitor! Although I just got this new computer last Christmas. I do have bad eyesight though, so let's see if anyone else can help.
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Just let's others comment..You won't believe me anyway :)

Good Bye :)

Good Luck for everyone too..Thanks for everyone for giving me time to enjoy join this thread 😘😘😘
 
#4,085
vhelya said:
Just let's others comment..You won't believe me anyway :)

Good Bye :)

Good Luck for everyone too..Thanks for everyone for giving me time to enjoy join this thread 😘😘😘
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Hon, it's NOT that I don't believe you, it's just that I don't SEE anything with the dust bag situation. I do have terrible eye sight and maybe someone else will see it. Yes, Please leave it up.
 
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I'm not an authenticator but I see what vhelya is saying about the dustbag. Clearly there are two different dustbags in the listing is what she is saying one pic is the NEW dustbag which is white and has MICHAEL KORS in silver and the other pic has an old dustbag which is a yellow toned dust bag which has MK in a circle in brown colour.

It's not a display cloth to advertise the brand..
 
#4,087
_jssaa said:
I'm not an authenticator but I see what vhelya is saying about the dustbag. Clearly there are two different dustbags in the listing is what she is saying one pic is the NEW dustbag which is white and has MICHAEL KORS in silver and the other pic has an old dustbag which is a yellow toned dust bag which has MK in a circle in brown colour.

It's not a display cloth to advertise the brand..
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OK, so is that dust bag the one she is selling with the bag? Or is she just using it as a display for the bag? . Because the first pic is the one you will see in a search, so the name would stand out among all the other listings. I am thinking that is what the seller is trying to do. I sell myself on ebay, and know how important that first photo is, to stand out among all of the other listings on the page. I would hope that is what she is doing. I don't know any other reason she would have two dust bags? And does two different dust bags make the bag fake??
 
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_jssaa said:
I'm not an authenticator but I see what vhelya is saying about the dustbag. Clearly there are two different dustbags in the listing is what she is saying one pic is the NEW dustbag which is white and has MICHAEL KORS in silver and the other pic has an old dustbag which is a yellow toned dust bag which has MK in a circle in brown colour.

It's not a display cloth to advertise the brand..
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Here is what is described in the listing.( pasted below) What is the paper cover?? Would that be the bag?? Or the tissue paper?? I really wasn't authenticating the packaging, as much as I was looking at the handbag itself. She has so much stuff with it! She's got tissue paper, paper bag, plastic covering. It's a wonder she doesn't have the box! lol! SO are you saying that the old dust cover or the new one, are not authentic? Or are we wondering which one comes with the bag?? How does this affect authenticity??

Authentic Michael Kors Large Selma Satchel Tote Bag Navy blue
comes with Care card/Paper cover/Plastic cover/Dust bag

Description

Color: Navy Blue
Material: Saffiano Leather
Width : 17 inch
Height: 10 inch
Depth : 7 inch
 
#4,089
_jssaa said:
I'm not an authenticator but I see what vhelya is saying about the dustbag. Clearly there are two different dustbags in the listing is what she is saying one pic is the NEW dustbag which is white and has MICHAEL KORS in silver and the other pic has an old dustbag which is a yellow toned dust bag which has MK in a circle in brown colour.

It's not a display cloth to advertise the brand..
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Now I see I am correct. I checked out all of her other handbag listings and she uses dust bags in all of her FIRST #1, photos, because that is the pic that shows up in the search section, before you open the listing. It is the first thing you will see among the 50 or so other listings on a page, when you do a search. This is simply to catch a buyers eye, that likes MK bags. Here is a pic from her other MK bag listings. You will note she does the same in all of them. Not sure you understand her logic, but I do, because I am a seller on ebay. Her advertising 'gimmick' has nothing to do with authenticity. So to say her bags are fake because of this, is not a valid reason, in my opinion..It is quite far reaching, actually. All of her bags are authentic.

Here is another display pic from her other listings, so you can see what I mean. Not sure if you will understand, if you don't sell on ebay. Please check her other handbag listings to see that she does the same for many of them, and also in her completed listings. It is just a way to catch the eye among dozens of pics that will all be on one page.
 

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CinthiaZ said:
Yes, that seller looks much better and at least she knows the style name of her bags! lol! and has a much more detailed description. Her feedback looks better but there are still not enough photos for me.The dust bag looks OK but if that is saffiano leather, the grain doesn't look right, unless she adjusted her camera settings to look more grainy. Ask seller if they will send you a pic of the interior lining, label and made in counrty, date code tab, and then post them here.That is the only way we can tell for sure.
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This seller didn't get back to me in the end... suspicious!

I found another violet one, does this one look ok? No tags apparently, which I am unsure about but her feedback seems good:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291308406337?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
 
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CinthiaZ said:
Now I see I am correct. I checked out all of her other handbag listings and she uses dust bags in all of her FIRST #1, photos, because that is the pic that shows up in the search section, before you open the listing. It is the first thing you will see among the 50 or so other listings on a page, when you do a search. This is simply to catch a buyers eye, that likes MK bags. Here is a pic from her other MK bag listings. You will note she does the same in all of them. Not sure you understand her logic, but I do, because I am a seller on ebay. Her advertising 'gimmick' has nothing to do with authenticity. So to say her bags are fake because of this, is not a valid reason, in my opinion..It is quite far reaching, actually. All of her bags are authentic.

Here is another display pic from her other listings, so you can see what I mean. Not sure if you will understand, if you don't sell on ebay. Please check her other handbag listings to see that she does the same for many of them, and also in her completed listings. It is just a way to catch the eye among dozens of pics that will all be on one page.
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vhelya said:
Hmmm I may not agree..Just feel something a bit fishy and it's confirmed that the seller used 2 different pics of the bag..
From some details and in certain angles, the selma bag doesn't look in a good shape to me..
I'm afraid it's a superfake selma. Probably additional pics such as tag inside the bag, the leather creed, zipper pull, and the details on the longer strap are necessary to confirm
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Whatever :)

In this thread I trusted that we are trying to authenticate a particular bag posted by a seller and not to authenticate the sellers. (Maybe you should open another thread "Authenticate this ebay sellers" and probably after this, all branded bags authentication thread won't be necessary as long as the seller has fantastic reviews, all bags sold by those sellers are confirmed authentic)

Nobody said it's a fake bag in the first place and my point is to get more pictures are just to reconfirm with some more details ( (Refer to the above quoted comment I made)

Nobody said it's a fake bag due to different dustbags or due to the price tag which is placed at the right front part. Although the placement of the price tag threw me off, I understand that it's not wise to judge the authenticity only by that reason since it's easily modified and thus I just wanted to double confirm with other details..
But unfortunately, the seller didn't provide any clear pic on small details such as small tags, zipper details, longer straps and leather creed which are quite crucial in doing authentication.
Suspicion is not a judge and I actually didn't find anything wrong to ask for more pics just to throw away all my doubts..

Anyway, I'm not going to buy the bag..I don't lose anything when u're wrong or correct..
If u think u're so right to do authentication then just go ahead with the way you do now.

But if someone who can't even spot the difference on the dust bag and said have a bad sights to see the pictures to be an authenticator then I just hope a good luck for everyone..

Bye and take care :)
 
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Not to "beat a dead horse" as the saying goes but I've gone over the pictures in question several times, zooming in as close as possible and still believe this bag to be authentic. I did catch the dust bag and tag differences, but that does not concern me because I don't think the seller is purposefully trying to be shady. Like others I believe the white dust bag is being used as a prop. Also, sometimes sellers have multiples of one bag and will photograph one with a tag, and the other one may not have a tag attached. My MK boutique removes the tag at checkout and puts it in the inside pocket, so the fact that a tag is not attached is not always a red flag. However to put a buyer's mind at ease she can always request a picture of the actual tag and any other closer details. It's better to have too many pictures than not enough.
 
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jojon21 said:
Not to "beat a dead horse" as the saying goes but I've gone over the pictures in question several times, zooming in as close as possible and still believe this bag to be authentic. I did catch the dust bag and tag differences, but that does not concern me because I don't think the seller is purposefully trying to be shady. Like others I believe the white dust bag is being used as a prop. Also, sometimes sellers have multiples of one bag and will photograph one with a tag, and the other one may not have a tag attached. My MK boutique removes the tag at checkout and puts it in the inside pocket, so the fact that a tag is not attached is not always a red flag. However to put a buyer's mind at ease she can always request a picture of the actual tag and any other closer details. It's better to have too many pictures than not enough.
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Exactly! That is all I was trying to say. Thank you!
 
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vhelya said:
Whatever :)

In this thread I trusted that we are trying to authenticate a particular bag posted by a seller and not to authenticate the sellers. (Maybe you should open another thread "Authenticate this ebay sellers" and probably after this, all branded bags authentication thread won't be necessary as long as the seller has fantastic reviews, all bags sold by those sellers are confirmed authentic)

Nobody said it's a fake bag in the first place and my point is to get more pictures are just to reconfirm with some more details ( (Refer to the above quoted comment I made)

Nobody said it's a fake bag due to different dustbags or due to the price tag which is placed at the right front part. Although the placement of the price tag threw me off, I understand that it's not wise to judge the authenticity only by that reason since it's easily modified and thus I just wanted to double confirm with other details..
But unfortunately, the seller didn't provide any clear pic on small details such as small tags, zipper details, longer straps and leather creed which are quite crucial in doing authentication.
Suspicion is not a judge and I actually didn't find anything wrong to ask for more pics just to throw away all my doubts..

Anyway, I'm not going to buy the bag..I don't lose anything when u're wrong or correct..
If u think u're so right to do authentication then just go ahead with the way you do now.

But if someone who can't even spot the difference on the dust bag and said have a bad sights to see the pictures to be an authenticator then I just hope a good luck for everyone..

Bye and take care :)
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Nobody said it was a fake in the first place?? What is this?? lol!

Originally Posted by vhelya
Hmmm I may not agree..Just feel something a bit fishy and it's confirmed that the seller used 2 different pics of the bag..
From some details and in certain angles, the selma bag doesn't look in a good shape to me..
I'm afraid it's a superfake selma. Probably additional pics such as tag inside the bag, the leather creed, zipper pull, and the details on the longer strap are necessary to confirm

Yes, WHATEVER is correct! Thank you!
 
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