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[Vlad]

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[Hyacinth]

I have a 1997 A plant sample Ergo…here’s the creeds. The hyphen is correct in this example. View attachment 5749885
ETA: The T in completely appears squashed because the creed itself is bent. The entire piece of leather is a bit concaved so anything in that bend appears somewhat squashed. Just my observation.

View attachment 5749886

Did youmean "hyphen" or "underscore?

ALL the 1997 A-plant bags had longer underscores in the "No".

The C plant is the only one I can think of with an unusually long hyphen after the "C"

 

[Hyacinth]

I have a 1997 A plant sample Ergo…here’s the creeds. The hyphen is correct in this example. View attachment 5749885
ETA: The T in completely appears squashed because the creed itself is bent. The entire piece of leather is a bit concaved so anything in that bend appears somewhat squashed. Just my observation.

View attachment 5749886

The "bent" creed patch is barely curved. And why aren't the letters right above and below the "t" showing any malformation at all? The top bars of the "t" and the first "e" have absolutely NO space between them. Look at the creed in the G7A-0000 sample you posted and compare those same three lines of text between the - sorry, I'm just going to call it "fake" because I believe that's what it is - and the sample.

 

[barneybeagle]

It's fine, made in 1996.

Thanks very much, BeenBurned!

 

[Busykitty]

The "bent" creed patch is barely curved. And why aren't the letters right above and below the "t" showing any malformation at all? The top bars of the "t" and the first "e" have absolutely NO space between them. Look at the creed in the G7A-0000 sample you posted and compare those same three lines of text between the - sorry, I'm just going to call it "fake" because I believe that's what it is - and the sample.

Lol you literally just used my creed as an example of A plant stamps in your previous post and are calling it fake in the same breath. Note the stretch marks running through it….it’s the same bag.

And I was discussing the hyphen not the underscore, as you were discussing it in the post I was replying to. I do know the difference. I was trying to relay that it was in the proper position because the samples you had provided previously were not.

 

[Hyacinth]

View attachment 5749956
Lol you literally just used my creed as an example of A plant stamps in your previous post and are calling it fake in the same breath. Note the stretch marks running through it….it’s the same bag.

And I was discussing the hyphen not the underscore, as you were discussing it in the post I was replying to. I do know the difference. I was trying to relay that it was in the proper position because the samples you had provided previously were not.

The ONLY thing I'm calling FAKE is the BAG IN THIS POST:

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And I'm really getting tired of wasting time trying to explain things to someone who won't listen, especially when I have a very good idea from where or who the nonsense you're posting is coming from.

 

[Busykitty]

The ONLY thing I'm calling FAKE is the BAG IN THIS POST:

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And I'm really getting tired of wasting time trying to explain things to someone who won't listen, especially when I have a very good idea from where or who the nonsense you're posting is coming from.

The ideas and comments in my posts come from my brain and my brain only. I just want to clear that up. Thank you for your time.

 

[TianeJoy]

Hello! I need help authenticating this coach dinky bag please!

https://posh.mk/0BG0tfdHuyb

It looked good... so I bought it but now it feels kind of like plastic. Help!

 

[BeenBurned]

The ONLY thing I'm calling FAKE is the BAG IN THIS POST:

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And I'm really getting tired of wasting time trying to explain things to someone who won't listen, especially when I have a very good idea from where or who the nonsense you're posting is coming from.

Regarding the "T" in "completely," IMO, the side-by-side comparison pictures tell the story.




And something that jumped out at me when I first saw the bag that I'm 100% positive is fake but hasn't been mentioned is that it has an upside-down "8" year code. Although I've seen an upside-down 8 in Costa Rican bags, I've NEVER seen it in a US-made bag. And here are some additional comps.











From the start, my opinion was that the bag posted by @JellyHime is fake and the more examples I see, the more sure I am that my original opinion was correct.

And I was discussing the hyphen not the underscore, as you were discussing it in the post I was replying to. I do know the difference. I was trying to relay that it was in the proper position because the samples you had provided previously were not.

@Busykitty , I think the reason the "A" plant came up was because YOU brought it up! Your original post concerning the fake bag was expressing the possibility that the bag in question had a mistake in which Coach transposed the month and plant codes, something that does NOT appear to be the case.

 

[whateve]

Hello! I need help authenticating this coach dinky bag please!

https://posh.mk/0BG0tfdHuyb

It looked good... so I bought it but now it feels kind of like plastic. Help!

It's authentic. It might feel weird because of some products used on it. You could ask the seller what she used.

 

[TianeJoy]

It's authentic. It might feel weird because of some products used on it. You could ask the seller what she used.

Excellent! Thank you so much.

 

[Hyacinth]

Regarding the "T" in "completely," IMO, the side-by-side comparison pictures tell the story.

View attachment 5750019


And something that jumped out at me when I first saw the bag that I'm 100% positive is fake but hasn't been mentioned is that it has an upside-down "8" year code. Although I've seen an upside-down 8 in Costa Rican bags, I've NEVER seen it in a US-made bag. And here are some additional comps.

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From the start, my opinion was that the bag posted by @JellyHime is fake and the more examples I see, the more sure I am that my original opinion was correct.




@Busykitty , I think the reason the "A" plant came up was because YOU brought it up! Your original post concerning the fake bag was expressing the possibility that the bag in question had a mistake in which Coach transposed the month and plant codes, something that does NOT appear to be the case.

Exactly! Thank you!

I DID notice the upside-down 8 but couldn't remember if we'd seen any of those before.

No matter how many times and how many ways I looked at that crammed-in "t", I couldn't think of ANY reason why a genuine Coach creed stamp would ever be released or utilized by Coach in that condition. The very VERY few genuine creeds we've ever seen with actual manufacturing mistakes like wrong year codes, punctuation mistakes, etc have all been from the post-2000 China plants. Your photo analyzing software is so much better than mine and that red flag is as clear as day in your pictures.

ETA - It reminds me of that time when a poster at the Ebay fashion forums kept insisting that an obvious fake that we'd never ever seen before was a genuine Bridle Bag even though it had the wrong creed, the wrong lining, the wrong leather and among other problems what was supposed to be a "COACH NEW YORK" stamp on the front that when looked at VERY closely, actually read "COACH NEW VORK".

"None are so blind as those who will not see"

 

[Kiradris]

Can anyone advise on this bag? I don't recall seeing many oxblood colored older Coach bags. TIA!

Item: COACH 1970s NYC Oxblood Classic Messenger Flap Shoulder Bag
Listing number: N/a
Seller and site where listed: Poshmark, seller treasuremine4u
Link:

https://poshmark.com/listing/Rare-Aniline-COACH-1970s-NYC-Oxblood-Classic-Messenger-Flap-Shoulder-Bag-622ce44e045e39bba72dd887

 

[Busykitty]

Exactly! Thank you!

I DID notice the upside-down 8 but couldn't remember if we'd seen any of those before.

No matter how many times and how many ways I looked at that crammed-in "t", I couldn't think of ANY reason why a genuine Coach creed stamp would ever be released or utilized by Coach in that condition. The very VERY few genuine creeds we've ever seen with actual manufacturing mistakes like wrong year codes, punctuation mistakes, etc have all been from the post-2000 China plants. Your photo analyzing software is so much better than mine and that red flag is as clear as day in your pictures.

ETA - It reminds me of that time when a poster at the Ebay fashion forums kept insisting that an obvious fake that we'd never ever seen before was a genuine Bridle Bag even though it had the wrong creed, the wrong lining, the wrong leather and among other problems what was supposed to be a "COACH NEW YORK" stamp on the front that when looked at VERY closely, actually read "COACH NEW VORK".

"None are so blind as those who will not see"

For the last time @Hyacinth, I speak for myself. I am not a puppet. You can bully me all you want. I was mearly making an observation because I had seen similar A plant stamps in the past. That’s all.

 

[Swanky]

Hi!

This is not a cheat thread, please just stick to authentication requests and responses and not get side tracked, this will help prevent drama and many off topic posts.

Thanks

 

[maioca17]

Please help ; does the following dinky look authentic?
Poshmark : https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-vintage-bag-6321b05132c1dcf3522bac47
seller : moonvallarta