Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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klc2021 said:
Hi, can you please authenticate this listing?
I think the bag itself looks ok, but the description is off from what I've learned here about this bag and the creed is the older format, which is beyond my ability. It's a bit of a splurge for me, but I'll be absolutely thrilled if this is authentic. Thank you so much!

Item: Willis No. 0210-306 (#9927 style)
Listing: Vintage Coach Willis 9927 in RARE Bottle Green
Seller: @kelbrew11 on Poshmark
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It's authentic.
 
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klc2021 said:
Wow, you guys are speedy! And this is great, thank you so much!

Do you know when the heck this was made? I can't figure that out from the creed, since it's not the plant/date/style number format I learned about here. I know there is a vintage thread if this is a more appropriate question to ask over there. Thanks!
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The 4+3 all-number serial number indicates it was made between 1990 and 1993. Since the Willis wasn't introduced until 1993, that's the only year it could have been made.

ETA - In fact I commented on that exact bag less than a week ago, both about the date and the color. Give me a minute to find my post ...

OK, found it. This is why we tell posters to do a Search for the seller to see if the item has already been authenticated and to check on the seller's history:

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

IMPORTANT READ-ME Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please. For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread. Please follow the following requests: Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this...
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My EXACT quote is here, and the link will take you to a catalog photo:
"Genuine, but the seller has been reading the WRONG bloody guides!

Not only was that green not a special order color, but it wasn't made in the 1980s either. It wasn't even introduced until 1993, which is when this one would have been made. And as you can see from this 1993 Fall Preview catalog, not only was it introduced in 1993, but Bottle Green wasn't a special order color, it was available right from the start."

It's NEVER a good idea to assume that all sellers know WTH they're talking about. Or are telling the truth, assuming they even know it.

Seller " kelbrew11 " needs to find a new source of information, AND SOON.
 
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Hyacinth said:
Your link only goes to the first page at the Vintage forum. Which post are you referring to? Please post the direct link. Click on the post number in the upper right corner and the URL for that specific post should appear in the address box. Or include the post number in your reply so we can find it.

Or tell me what it was, although I think I can guess, and if it has apparently "disappeared". You or Lake Effect can PM me, since she apparently saw it too. Thanks!

ETA - GOT IT !!!

This item is unavailable - Etsy

Find the perfect handmade gift, vintage & on-trend clothes, unique jewellery, and more… lots more.
www.etsy.com www.etsy.com

What a coincidence that something like that should turn up here. Especially after MY recent post:

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

IMPORTANT READ-ME Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please. For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread. Please follow the following requests: Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this...
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I'll be VERY interested to hear the sequence of events and whether you spotted that "COA" in the pics posted here or in the original Etsy listing.

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The "COA" I spotted is in the original Etsy listing, and it's still there. Wonders never cease.....
 
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Hyacinth said:
The 4+3 all-number serial number indicates it was made between 1990 and 1993. Since the Willis wasn't introduced until 1993, that's the only year it could have been made.

ETA - In fact I commented on that exact bag less than a week ago, both about the date and the color. Give me a minute to find my post ...

OK, found it. This is why we tell posters to do a Search for the seller to see if the item has already been authenticated and to check on the seller's history:

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

IMPORTANT READ-ME Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please. For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread. Please follow the following requests: Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this...
forum.purseblog.com forum.purseblog.com

My EXACT quote is here, and the link will take you to a catalog photo:
"Genuine, but the seller has been reading the WRONG bloody guides!

Not only was that green not a special order color, but it wasn't made in the 1980s either. It wasn't even introduced until 1993, which is when this one would have been made. And as you can see from this 1993 Fall Preview catalog, not only was it introduced in 1993, but Bottle Green wasn't a special order color, it was available right from the start."

It's NEVER a good idea to assume that all sellers know WTH they're talking about. Or are telling the truth, assuming they even know it.

Seller " kelbrew11 " needs to find a new source of information, AND SOON.
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Oh crap, I'm sorry! I was so careful to post the way that's requested and I totally missed this bit. I searched the number, but not the seller. So the seller doesn't know what she's talking about (and pitching hard), but the bag is ok. I'll do a more thorough search for all elements here next time. I appreciate your time and instruction!
 
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DL Harper said:
The "COA" I spotted is in the original Etsy listing, and it's still there. Wonders never cease.....
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Thanks, I didn't look for the original listing until after I read your post. But like I said, it doesn't surprise me. My sympathies to anyone who actually paid good money for one of those "Its Real Baby!" authentications from "the premier Coach authenticator" who's been in business (although so far only for members of his own Facebook pages) for a grand total of something like 2 months.

If you didn't see my post at the Vintage thread listing some examples, (most of them within the last year or two) of his authenticating qualifications, check it out:

Vintage Coach Photos & Chat

Got my black small Plaza! I got one of my large ones out for comparison. The ball chain broke while polishing it so I’ll have to find another one. It came with hangtag. That red is drop dead gorgeous!
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"The PREMIER Coach authenticator"? And I'm the Queen Of England. (Stands on my table amidst my Royal Doulton) "The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Hyacinth, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am The Queen." How did Divine Providence signify that he was The Premier Coach Authenticator?
 
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Hyacinth said:
Genuine Carrier Bag from the early 1990s. Its NOT a Musette. The Musette has an OPEN inside pocket and NO outside slip pocket.
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Thank you again, Hyacinth! Woah, I never even knew that the Musette did not have a back slip pocket until you kindly pointed it out. In that case, there have been numerous listings of Carrier bags erroneously listed as a Musette. It makes me wonder if the Carrier is as vintage valuable as the Musette, and it also seems a bit taller (thus, roomier inside)
 
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Hyacinth said:
Thanks, I didn't look for the original listing until after I read your post. But like I said, it doesn't surprise me. My sympathies to anyone who actually paid good money for one of those "Its Real Baby!" authentications from "the premier Coach authenticator" who's been in business (although so far only for members of his own Facebook pages) for a grand total of something like 2 months.

If you didn't see my post at the Vintage thread listing some examples, (most of them within the last year or two) of his authenticating qualifications, check it out:

Vintage Coach Photos & Chat

Got my black small Plaza! I got one of my large ones out for comparison. The ball chain broke while polishing it so I’ll have to find another one. It came with hangtag. That red is drop dead gorgeous!
forum.purseblog.com forum.purseblog.com

"The PREMIER Coach authenticator"? And I'm the Queen Of England. (Stands on my table amidst my Royal Doulton) "The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Hyacinth, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am The Queen." How did Divine Providence signify that he was The Premier Coach Authenticator?
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OMG! Just googled the "COA" website :eek:- what an eye opener! Seems I'm qualified to start my own :no:.
 
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daimlerz said:
Thank you again, Hyacinth! Woah, I never even knew that the Musette did not have a back slip pocket until you kindly pointed it out. In that case, there have been numerous listings of Carrier bags erroneously listed as a Musette. It makes me wonder if the Carrier is as vintage valuable as the Musette, and it also seems a bit taller (thus, roomier inside)
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It's only two inches wider, so it might make a difference to someone who needs that extra space for maybe an extra-large laptop, but the Musette has always had better "press" and was aimed a but more toward the female market when it was described back then as a bag often used by dancers. The misleading listings have probably been due to incomplete or shoddy research such as finding a similar bag on Ebay and using that name whether they actually matched or not. And of course some sellers just want to mislead buyers by knowingly calling it what it isn't because one name has more cachet than the other (correct) one
 
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DL Harper said:
OMG! Just googled the "COA" website :eek:- what an eye opener! Seems I'm qualified to start my own :no:.
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Yep, I guess I missed my calling. Instead of trying to make money by starting a paid service, or selling bags I bought for a hundred dollars for the bargain-basement price range of $750 to $949 (and let's not forget the fake $75 "vintage Coach t-shirt" with the Jerzees label), I and the other amazing authenticators here give away our knowledge for free. That's damned UN-American, when you think about it! Especially when you realize that the person selling authentications got and still gets a LOT of his information directly from the experts here at tPF and at the Ebay Fashion Forum (even though he's been banned from both and can't post, he still reads the forums religiously), but never acknowledged it (not in the last 3 or 4 years anyway), claims he's always right and we're always wrong, and sends his minions a.k.a. Maenads, here to get items authenticated that he's not able to. Maybe some day when we grow up, or get greedy enough, we can be just like him. :graucho:
 
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