Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

The brown one is definitely fake. I can't tell for sure about the green one. I think I see 012-3445, which is a number we see on lots of fakes.

The green one is also fake and has the always-fake serial number that you posted. Both serial numbers are in the Daria48 Fake Coach Numbers list, the full list starts here:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/salearea-guides.983575/page-3#post-33239557

 

[K-Coach]

I reported the listing. No one deserves to be cheated.

I just received photos of both creeds from the seller. You were correct in reporting them as counterfeits.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello everyone-- it's been awhile since I've been on here but now that I'm recently unemployed I can catch up!
Could someone please check this thrift store find of mine? I've scoured and can't find any photos of this from the G plant to compare.
Coach Metro Bucket Bag 9432
12.5"Lx 11.5"T x 3"D
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The last confirmed genuine G plant codes in my files are from 1997.The font was different from your example too. I have 2 other *0G- serials from questionable bags, all three including yours have very different fonts and creed spacings which means that it's very unlikely that they;re from the same plant.

BUT - although there's only one example currently on Ebay and there's no creed pic, the other details look identical. I'm going to try and find more comps. The one thing that worries me is how sloppy the outside back pocket zipper is. And is it actually on an angle? Also, all the others I've found all have "D" plant codes.

ETA - While I'm doing that, here are the other two *0G- creed and serial combos in my files, plus yours: Are any of them genuine, and if so, which one(s)? There may not be an easy answer to your question.

 

[BeenBurned]

I'm pretty sure both of these bags on ebay are fake but may I please ask for a confirmation before I report?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/193419523574
Seller: bayallstar99
Listing number: 193419523574

Thank you!

I messaged the seller a few days ago about adding clear and legible photos of both creeds. I have heard nothing in response.

I hope I'm wrong about them, I would love to get my hands on that green Station bag, but those creeds give me the heebie jeebies and I suspect they are not genuine.

Only one of the seller's bags has a photo of its creed. I don't think it looks authentic.

The brown one is definitely fake. I can't tell for sure about the green one. I think I see 012-3445, which is a number we see on lots of fakes.

Just heard from the seller.....both bags are already boxed for shipment. The station bag just looks too perfect to me.

I reported the listing. No one deserves to be cheated.

The green one is also fake and has the always-fake serial number that you posted. Both serial numbers are in the Daria48 Fake Coach Numbers list, the full list starts here:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/salearea-guides.983575/page-3#post-33239557

I missed the original listing of 2 fakes however I strongly recommend against doing business with bayallstar99.
in addition to both fake bags in the original listing, she has this current fake:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CO...546138?hash=item2d08b40e1a:g:U4QAAOSwNBleknD7

She sold this fake:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Sign...=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

This one is another fake, ended yesterday. (The relisted one was removed.)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Sign...=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

[whateve]

Hello everyone-- it's been awhile since I've been on here but now that I'm recently unemployed I can catch up!
Could someone please check this thrift store find of mine? I've scoured and can't find any photos of this from the G plant to compare.
Coach Metro Bucket Bag 9432
12.5"Lx 11.5"T x 3"D
View attachment 4712432 View attachment 4712433 View attachment 4712434

The last confirmed genuine G plant codes in my files are from 1997.The font was different from your example too. I have 2 other *0G- serials from questionable bags, all three including yours have very different fonts and creed spacings which means that it's very unlikely that they;re from the same plant.

BUT - although there's only one example currently on Ebay and there's no creed pic, the other details look identical. I'm going to try and find more comps. The one thing that worries me is how sloppy the outside back pocket zipper is. And is it actually on an angle? Also, all the others I've found all have "D" plant codes.

ETA - While I'm doing that, here are the other two *0G- creed and serial combos in my files, plus yours: Are any of them genuine, and if so, which one(s)? There may not be an easy answer to your question.

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I'm not comfortable with the creed of the metro bucket bag.

ETA: Have you ever seen a creed with spaces before the periods?

 

[missbaltimore]

The last confirmed genuine G plant codes in my files are from 1997.The font was different from your example too. I have 2 other *0G- serials from questionable bags, all three including yours have very different fonts and creed spacings which means that it's very unlikely that they;re from the same plant.

BUT - although there's only one example currently on Ebay and there's no creed pic, the other details look identical. I'm going to try and find more comps. The one thing that worries me is how sloppy the outside back pocket zipper is. And is it actually on an angle? Also, all the others I've found all have "D" plant codes.

ETA - While I'm doing that, here are the other two *0G- creed and serial combos in my files, plus yours: Are any of them genuine, and if so, which one(s)? There may not be an easy answer to your question.

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I found a post here on TPF (something like Bags for Men) where you Hyacinth had posted a photo from the wayback of the front flap version of this bag from 2000 so the date seems right and the Camel color is one of the 4 listed. And searching for any others of this bag the details do seem to line up including the shorter leather pull tabs, the shoulder strap material and the inset exterior zipper with a noticeable stop at the right side. There's not so many to see though.

As to the back zipper I believe it is straight but I've washed this one and the cardboardy stiffener inside the top edge has a few creases I can feel through the leather so that seems to be affecting the way it looks.

Are there any authentic bags with this font in the numbers? Or with this heavy strike and spacing in the creed? I have a file with a lot of bag style photos but I only have them labeled by style name and number without the plant/date codes so ugh!

 

[Hyacinth]

I'm not comfortable with the creed of the metro bucket bag.

ETA: Have you ever seen a creed with spaces before the periods?

No, never.

The details of the bag itself seem close or identical, but the creed and serial are big problems. I can't find any comps with G plant codes either. This one may have to stay :Questionable".

 

[Hyacinth]

I found a post here on TPF (something like Bags for Men) where you Hyacinth had posted a photo from the wayback of the front flap version of this bag from 2000 so the date seems right and the Camel color is one of the 4 listed. And searching for any others of this bag the details do seem to line up including the shorter leather pull tabs, the shoulder strap material and the inset exterior zipper with a noticeable stop at the right side. There's not so many to see though.

As to the back zipper I believe it is straight but I've washed this one and the cardboardy stiffener inside the top edge has a few creases I can feel through the leather so that seems to be affecting the way it looks.

Are there any authentic bags with this font in the numbers? Or with this heavy strike and spacing in the creed? I have a file with a lot of bag style photos but I only have them labeled by style name and number without the plant/date codes so ugh!

OK, that explains the wonky zipper.

I looked at all the other ones I could find on Ebay and Google, and none of them have the same creed or serial number details. There are only "D" plant examples too, which is a problem.There are also 2 different fonts used in the serial number, which is something we've seen in a few genuine bags from "2nd tier" or non-USA plants.

I still have to call it Questionable because of the creed and plant code, but the bag's details seem ok.

 

[missbaltimore]

OK, that explains the wonky zipper.

I looked at all the other ones I could find on Ebay and Google, and none of them have the same creed or serial number details. There are only "D" plant examples too, which is a problem.There are also 2 different fonts used in the serial number, which is something we've seen in a few genuine bags from "2nd tier" or non-USA plants.

I still have to call it Questionable because of the creed and plant code, but the bag's details seem ok.

I guess with this one the buck stops here. This might just have to be my BF's new Man Bag

 

[BeenBurned]

Hello everyone-- it's been awhile since I've been on here but now that I'm recently unemployed I can catch up!
Could someone please check this thrift store find of mine? I've scoured and can't find any photos of this from the G plant to compare.
Coach Metro Bucket Bag 9432
12.5"Lx 11.5"T x 3"D
View attachment 4712432 View attachment 4712433 View attachment 4712434

The last confirmed genuine G plant codes in my files are from 1997.The font was different from your example too. I have 2 other *0G- serials from questionable bags, all three including yours have very different fonts and creed spacings which means that it's very unlikely that they;re from the same plant.

BUT - although there's only one example currently on Ebay and there's no creed pic, the other details look identical. I'm going to try and find more comps. The one thing that worries me is how sloppy the outside back pocket zipper is. And is it actually on an angle? Also, all the others I've found all have "D" plant codes.

ETA - While I'm doing that, here are the other two *0G- creed and serial combos in my files, plus yours: Are any of them genuine, and if so, which one(s)? There may not be an easy answer to your question.

View attachment 4712461 View attachment 4712462 View attachment 4712463 View attachment 4712464

I'm not comfortable with the creed of the metro bucket bag.

ETA: Have you ever seen a creed with spaces before the periods?

I found a post here on TPF (something like Bags for Men) where you Hyacinth had posted a photo from the wayback of the front flap version of this bag from 2000 so the date seems right and the Camel color is one of the 4 listed. And searching for any others of this bag the details do seem to line up including the shorter leather pull tabs, the shoulder strap material and the inset exterior zipper with a noticeable stop at the right side. There's not so many to see though.

As to the back zipper I believe it is straight but I've washed this one and the cardboardy stiffener inside the top edge has a few creases I can feel through the leather so that seems to be affecting the way it looks.

Are there any authentic bags with this font in the numbers? Or with this heavy strike and spacing in the creed? I have a file with a lot of bag style photos but I only have them labeled by style name and number without the plant/date codes so ugh!

No, never.

The details of the bag itself seem close or identical, but the creed and serial are big problems. I can't find any comps with G plant codes either. This one may have to stay :Questionable".

OK, that explains the wonky zipper.

I looked at all the other ones I could find on Ebay and Google, and none of them have the same creed or serial number details. There are only "D" plant examples too, which is a problem.There are also 2 different fonts used in the serial number, which is something we've seen in a few genuine bags from "2nd tier" or non-USA plants.

I still have to call it Questionable because of the creed and plant code, but the bag's details seem ok.

I'm late to the party but I found a couple of concerns in addition to those posted.

I also did a lot of searching and found nothing from the G plant but plenty of 1999 and 2000 D plant bags. (I'll include links to others that I looked at.)

This concerns me:
1. The leather at the end of the strap is longer on @missbaltimore's bag. And there's a larger space between the "est. 1941" stamp and the stitching below it.
2. The weave on the strap is on the strap is vertical on missbaltimore's bag vs. horizontal on the comp. (This could be an optical illusion or camera angle. Other authentic bags appear the same as the questionable bag.)
3. The top of the clip appears flatter on the questionable bag vs. rounder on the comp.
This is the comp: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-Crossbody-Bag-L9D9432-Black-5e546891138e18fd3b7fc7e3



I also found bags of the same color but it's hard to tell from @missbaltimore's pictures whether there are differences.
I'd like to see the stitching color above the creed on the bag in question. It doesn't appear white in her picture but in these listings, it's white:
https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintag...a9&post_roll=stitched_v1&utm_source=pi_sh_pub
and
https://www.ebth.com/items/3186718-tan-coach-bucket-bag

It's notable that on THIS FAKE, the stitching matches the bag color -- NOT white as the others:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/198355...f=sr_gallery-1-1&organic_search_click=1&frs=1

 

[BeenBurned]

I'm also seeing the same differences in this clip and leather trim on the strap.
Reference:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/776435...f=sr_gallery-1-2&organic_search_click=1&frs=1

 

[missbaltimore]

I'm also seeing the same differences in this clip and leather trim on the strap.
Reference:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/776435...f=sr_gallery-1-2&organic_search_click=1&frs=1

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The stitching on my bag is the same color as the leather. I saw that white one-- it has the wrong serial number? But yes it does have the same spacing on the leather tab of the strap. Also the hardware on mine is brushed nickel not polished. Not sure if that means anything. Also the hang tag is not original-- I added it as a close color match but not the same as the original would have been.

 

[CR Graham]

Kind Authenticators - I hope everyone is safe and well! When you have time, could you please give me your thoughts on this NYC Courier that I purchased at Goodwill?

Item: Courier Pouch
Dimensions (approx.): 9.75 in. (length), 4.5 in. (width), 8.5 in. (height)

 

[whateve]

Kind Authenticators - I hope everyone is safe and well! When you have time, could you please give me your thoughts on this NYC Courier that I purchased at Goodwill?

Item: Courier Pouch
Dimensions (approx.): 9.75 in. (length), 4.5 in. (width), 8.5 in. (height)

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It's fine.

 

[CR Graham]

It's fine.

Many thanks, whateve!