Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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Ava_13579 said:
Hello! I hope you're all good, and that you're having a good weekend. =D
When you get a chance, if you could please authenticate this, that'd be awesome.

Item: “COACH Emily Flap Bag Periwinkle Blue USA”
Listing number: 66247332
Seller: Goodwill of Central & Southern Indiana
Link: https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/66247332

Comments:
  • Looks like an Emmie Flap from 1997 in Periwinkle.
  • I'm uploading a few additional photos that aren't included in the listing.
  • There was only one thing that seemed a bit unusual to me. It looks like the chain for the hangtag is nickel-colored, while the hardware on the bag is brass. I figure the original, brass chain was likely just swapped for the nickel chain by someone in the last 22 years. (That's assuming that the chain is actually nickel-colored; it could just look nickel-coloured in the photo.)
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It's fine. I used to have this bag. It holds a surprising amount. The chain was probably swapped out.
 
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#36,758
Hyacinth said:
The turnlocks in the photo were used on BRIEFCASES starting in 1996. The oval turnlocks and all the warnings about indentations on the back apply ONLY to handbags. I hope we've made that clear in most of our posts. If you look carefully at those reference photos you'll see that the oval turnlocks are only on handbags or on briefcases made before 1996. The rounded-off rectangular turnlocks with indents on the back are GENUINE Coach turnlocks on their 1996 and newer briefcases.

ETA - For example - catalog pages for the Fall 1995 and Spring 1996 Beekman Brief, style 5266. Notice the turnlocks.
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There CAN be a problem with replacement turnlocks bought from 3rd party sellers, we've seen a few sold as non-Coach replacements that DO have indented turnlock plates. That's why using the turnlock alone should never be considered proof that a bag is fake.

When we specify one style of design family in a post, such as "handbags with indented turnlocks might be counterfeit" or that "Coach has never made handbags or purses in Korea", there's a reason why we're so specific. If we say handbags, we mean handbags ONLY. Just because indented turnlocks on handbags are a problem that doesn't mean that briefcases, which the Essex Case is, would have the same problem. They don't, at least not when they have that exact turnlock that's in your photos.

And while we've never seen any evidence so far that Coach has never made handbags (or wallets or briefcases) in Korea, we HAVE seen good evidence that they very briefly made a few clothing items, luggage pieces and even keychains there. Coach's relationship with Korean manufacturers and the ROK legal system has NOT been a happy one.


The Salearea Guides are the same, when I'm specific about a subject or "rule" there's a reason for it. I try to choose my words very carefully which is one reason why the Guides should be read more than once and attention paid to my exact words. A single read-through isn't enough.
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Thanks, Hyacinth. I'm new to owning anything with this turnlock style. I thought it was weird that I was seeing pictures of the same bag with a different turnlock. Now I know why :)
 
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kithrobyn said:
I saw this and thought it was interesting. Let me know what you think about it's authenticity. Thank you.

Item:
Coach Berry Pink Archive Limited Edition Purse
Listing number:
Seller: Goodwill Online
Link: https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/66842365
Comments:
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The listing is unusually bad even for Goodwill. No readable creed photo, The style number is barely legible but not the rest of the creed, and the description says
"CONDITION: Pre-owned
Overall wrinkling, fraying, stretching, scuffing, and some slight stitch seperation at seams, Zipper is stiff....
Sold AS IS"

But no photos of the damaged areas. It's hard to believe they're talking about the same bag. It's genuine but if the description is accurate the buyer needs to accept that it's "as is" and cross their fingers on the VERY slim hope that maybe the description was copied from another listing since the only zipper on or in the bag is the one on the inside pocket, and shown as only zipped part of the way across.

It's a 12797 Bleecker Street Suede Haversack.
 
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