Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
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• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: COACH Handbag Tan and Brown
Listing: 181693640378
Seller: sammy1decorating
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/181693640378?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comment: Signature pattern off, J4D prefix
Thank you!

Definitely fake. The C pattern isn't centered, the font used in the serial number is wrong for that plant and year, and the hardware is thinner and cheaper than on the real one. The style itself is right and it's a scary close fake except for that obvious red flag with the messed-up C pattern.

ETA -
Here's what I mean about the C pattern not being centered. Most, BUT NOT ALL bags with standard Signature C patterns have their pattern arranged at least on the front of the bag where the right and left sides are mirror images of each other. This isn't an unbreakble Rule though. Some regular Signature styles don't do it, and many pattern lines like Scarf patterns, Optic Signature, Poppy Tartan and many others don't follow that rule either. But this style 6363 does. Here's the fake on top and the real one below. Compare the alignment of the patterns.

 

[Hyacinth]

http://www.endclothing.com/red-wing...Hv-JmC8wKzegkfzeNhHDG-v-youufZVSQWhoC2D3w_wcB
It's a combination of pine pitch and mink oil. I sort of remember someone visiting the rehab thread that used pine pitch. I've used mink oil. I really like it for dried out leather. Notice it says "not recommended for...fine leathers." This stuff is designed for boots, not purses. The pine pitch may cause permanent darkening.

The bag isn't a good advertisement for boot oil. At least it isn't shoe polish! I bet it will look a lot better after a bath and conditioners meant for purses, not boots.

That's kind of what I thought. I've used mink oil on my winter boots and some leather shoes, but it seems like it's designed more as a waterproofer than as a straight-up conditioner. I can see using it on a bag that's dried out, but I just don't like the idea of using oils on purse leathers.

But then, I'm not a rehabber - too lazy and too much of a procrastinator. It's easier to just buy bags that don't need anything more than a conditioning or dunking.

 

[JOODLZ]

Could someone please authenticate this Coach bag?
From GW...
Approx. 10.25'w x 4.5"h x 3"d. Strap 8" to rings.
The wayback calls it a Hamptons Pebbled Leather Demi #5052, right?
Thanks in advance.

P.S. Hyacinth, I forgot to say "Thanks" for my City Bag authentication last week...so Thanks!

 

[Hyacinth]

Could someone please authenticate this Coach bag?
From GW...
Approx. 10.25'w x 4.5"h x 3"d. Strap 8" to rings.
The wayback calls it a Hamptons Pebbled Leather Demi #5052, right?
Thanks in advance.

P.S. Hyacinth, I forgot to say "Thanks" for my City Bag authentication last week...so Thanks!

Cute! And yes, that's the same name I have.

And you don't need to say thanks all the time, although it's appreciated. I never say "you're welcome" but that's because I don't like adding too many posts not directly related to authenticating to the thread. The faster the post count mounts up, the sooner it will be that the Mods have to open a new thread and archive the old one. So I hope no one gets upset when I don't say "You're welcome".

 

[grammysfinds]

Item Vintage Coach Leather Purse
Item Number 251877351935
Seller meis4psu
Link http://www.ebay.com/itm/251877351935?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Item Vintage Distressed Coach Tan Leather
Item Number 181689323657
Seller the vintagetravelingcloset
Link http://www.ebay.com/itm/181689323657?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Item Vintage Coach Janice Legacy Handbag Shoulder Bag Leather Purse USA 9950
Seller moonshadowvintage
Item number 171718929221
Link http://www.ebay.com/itm/171718929221?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Thank you once again.

 

[Flushpuppy]

Yes you can offer less than the BIN. I sell using that method as I can't be bothered with auctions. I list with a BIN at a slightly higher price than what I want for it and ask for best offers which might be $5 to $20 less than the BIN. If a buyer really wants the item they will grab it at the BIN. Also buyers like best offers because it gives them a chance to 'haggle' with counter offers and if they get it less than the BIN they feel they got a bargain.

Auctions are good for buyers, but not necessarily for sellers, as a buyer does not always end up paying the maximum that they are willing to pay. A BIN facilitates that.



I get ridiculous offers sometimes. A bag with a $150 BIN gets an offer of $25. It's hard not to be offended. Sometimes I can't help myself and decline with a comment like "you can't buy a plastic bag for $25".

+1

One of the advantages of BIN is it only renews every 30 days, and if you put best offer as an option, you can screen your buyers. I've been using eBay since 1998, and the percentage of crazy buyers has dramatically increased to the point that I'm afraid of auctions. As long as you include a message like "thank you for your time" with your best offer, you are more likely to get a response from the seller (positive or negative), instead of being ignored, ime.

Every seller is different. A seller had an item for sale for $23.99, I offered $21, he countered with $22. I think it is ridiculous that he would negotiate for such a cheap item. Then he had an item listed for $35.99, I offered $32 and he declined it; no counter offer.

Another seller had an item for sale for $100, I offered $50 and she accepted it. However, it wasn't as described. I thought I was getting a deal on a new bag, but it was used and dirty, not even worth $50.

I got a $135 bracelet for $75 once.

Some sellers would be offended if you offer $100 for an $150 item. Most people wouldn't be offended if you offer 20% lower than the BIN price.

The only time I make ridiculously low offers is when I don't want the item very much or it is out of my price range. There is always a chance they might consider it. If it is something I really want, I don't want to risk offending the seller.

Not necessarily. If you had offered less than the seller's automatic setting, you would have had to wait for the seller to review the offer, and during that time, someone else could have snapped it up. The seller has 48 hours to consider your offer, which is nerve-wracking if you really want it. Is it really worth the $5 you might have potentially saved?

Actually I did get an offer like that and I was feeling grumpy so I declined, with no counter-offer with "You're joking, right?" The buyer apologised and made another much higher offer which I accepted. Generally my BIN prices are a maximum of 10% higher than the lowest price I'm willing to accept.

Also it depends on how long its been listed for. I had an offer for a bag last week less than 24 hours after it was listed. I was only willing to drop it by $5, but that seller wanted it cheaper. A week later I got the full BIN price for it from another buyer so it was worth waiting.

Wow! All this is very interesting. It's a lot more complicated than I thought. I've never sold anything - I buy bags I want to use - so I've never experienced the selling side. I've been lucky so far (knock on wood) to deal with good sellers, although I suppose the satchel that wasn't a satchel wasn't so great and it turned out all right.

 

[Spoiledlttleldy]

Hi. I was hoping you could tell me if this is real or not. Tia. [emoji4]

 

[Flushpuppy]

Weston shopper
Seller: SomethingofInterest
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/226291...coach-bag-unique?ref=fp_item&aref=32915003372

Rambler
Seller: MaryJaneClassics
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/204321...ch-black-rambler?ref=fp_item&aref=32879851911


Thanks!

 

[Flushpuppy]

Red leather bag
Seller: gift4yooou
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-COA...675?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a2931733
Is this real? It seems almost like they added the legacy lining since it looks so frayed?

 

[maramd]

http://www.endclothing.com/red-wing...Hv-JmC8wKzegkfzeNhHDG-v-youufZVSQWhoC2D3w_wcB
It's a combination of pine pitch and mink oil. I sort of remember someone visiting the rehab thread that used pine pitch. I've used mink oil. I really like it for dried out leather. Notice it says "not recommended for...fine leathers." This stuff is designed for boots, not purses. The pine pitch may cause permanent darkening.

The bag isn't a good advertisement for boot oil. At least it isn't shoe polish! I bet it will look a lot better after a bath and conditioners meant for purses, not boots.

I am hoping it looks better after a bath and conditioners too! Will post before and after "boot oil" photos on the rehab thread.

 

[sea_star]

Hello,

Please help me authenticate this Coach bag:

Item: Classic Backpack #9943
Listing number: #111612074147
Seller: 1conan1999
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111612074147?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: I requested a detailed shot of the stamp from the seller; this picture is attached. I noticed that there is a hyphen missing between the serial #'s. Sadly, the only other seller who was offering #9943 just sold the bag. :rain: My question: is it real?

Thank you all.

 

[maramd]

Every seller is different. A seller had an item for sale for $23.99, I offered $21, he countered with $22. I think it is ridiculous that he would negotiate for such a cheap item. Then he had an item listed for $35.99, I offered $32 and he declined it; no counter offer.

Another seller had an item for sale for $100, I offered $50 and she accepted it. However, it wasn't as described. I thought I was getting a deal on a new bag, but it was used and dirty, not even worth $50.

I got a $135 bracelet for $75 once.

Some sellers would be offended if you offer $100 for an $150 item. Most people wouldn't be offended if you offer 20% lower than the BIN price.

The only time I make ridiculously low offers is when I don't want the item very much or it is out of my price range. There is always a chance they might consider it. If it is something I really want, I don't want to risk offending the seller.

Not necessarily. If you had offered less than the seller's automatic setting, you would have had to wait for the seller to review the offer, and during that time, someone else could have snapped it up. The seller has 48 hours to consider your offer, which is nerve-wracking if you really want it. Is it really worth the $5 you might have potentially saved?

Right it is a gamble. I have done the bin instead of an offer on bags that I really, really wanted. And lost a lot of bags to higher bids, and forgetting to bid. My offer was 9.00 below the original price. I know the seller has to make money too!

 

[BeenBurned]

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Hi. I was hoping you could tell me if this is real or not. Tia. [emoji4]

It's authentic.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello,

Please help me authenticate this Coach bag:

Item: Classic Backpack #9943
Listing number: #111612074147
Seller: 1conan1999
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111612074147?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: I requested a detailed shot of the stamp from the seller; this picture is attached. I noticed that there is a hyphen missing between the serial #'s. Sadly, the only other seller who was offering #9943 just sold the bag. :rain: My question: is it real?

Thank you all.

It's a genuine Classic Backpack.

Serial numbers used to be stamped and set by hand, and sometimes people made mistakes.

 

[Hyacinth]

Weston shopper
Seller: SomethingofInterest
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/226291...coach-bag-unique?ref=fp_item&aref=32915003372

Rambler
Seller: MaryJaneClassics
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/204321...ch-black-rambler?ref=fp_item&aref=32879851911


Thanks!

Both look ok.