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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
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jbsoton said:
Hi guys, can you please help me authenticate this bag? Much appreciated!
It's a Swagger wristlet

Item: Coach Swagger Wristlet
Listing number: 292388298322
Seller: 0238angela66
Link: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Beautiful-Black-Coach-Wristlet/292388298322?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Comments: This is the first time I bought something on eBay so I really need your help on this one!!!

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BeenBurned said:
There should be a small white label with production numbers on it. It's probably buried deep inside the zippered interior pocket and you might have to dig and feel around to find it. I need to see a picture of that label.
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jbsoton said:
Hi BeenBurned, yes you are right, I just found it, please help! Thank you very much




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As I've commented quite a few times over the last couple of years, some of the newer bags (Swaggers among them) are very closely faked and as such, I prefer to err on the side of caution. So if pictures and details are questionable and if there aren't other listings for the same item to verify that it's the way Coach would have made the bag, I'd recommend against buying.

Regarding the bag in question, there are problems with the creed and with the stitching on the back of the bag that make me uncomfortable.

While I can't say (with the information I have) that the bag is fake, I also can't verify that it's genuine. As such, I wouldn't buy this bag.

OTHER OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.

In the following picture, the creed of the bag in question is in the upper right. The stitching is sloppy and uneven and the space between "New York" and the creed text is larger than on the comps.
Coach 53032 creeds .png


In the following picture, the vertical stitch line is farther away from the side of bag than on any others.
Coach 53032 back stitching.png
 
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BeenBurned said:
As I've commented quite a few times over the last couple of years, some of the newer bags (Swaggers among them) are very closely faked and as such, I prefer to err on the side of caution. So if pictures and details are questionable and if there aren't other listings for the same item to verify that it's the way Coach would have made the bag, I'd recommend against buying.

Regarding the bag in question, there are problems with the creed and with the stitching on the back of the bag that make me uncomfortable.

While I can't say (with the information I have) that the bag is fake, I also can't verify that it's genuine. As such, I wouldn't buy this bag.

OTHER OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.

In the following picture, the creed of the bag in question is in the upper right. The stitching is sloppy and uneven and the space between "New York" and the creed text is larger than on the comps.
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In the following picture, the vertical stitch line is farther away from the side of bag than on any others.
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Hi BeenBurned, thank you so much for your time and expertise!!! <3
 
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D1678B98-8966-4526-B639-86C2D205C64F.png The C’s On the lining of this jacket don’t seem to be facing right? Are there some that do go this way or is it fake. I know it’s a dark picture you can see them best on the bottom half of the jacket
Thanks for looking
 
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sb2 said:
View attachment 3946842 The C’s On the lining of this jacket don’t seem to be facing right? Are there some that do go this way or is it fake. I know it’s a dark picture you can see them best on the bottom half of the jacket
Thanks for looking
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They're still barely visible. And it's very possible that the workers in whatever non-US country sewed the jacket just got the pattern alignment wrong. The lining doesn't prove anything.

And we can't give any opinion based only on the one picture you supplied. We need photos of the entire jacket, front and back, and ALL tags or labels inside the jacket and the pockets, there probably should also be a tag somewhere inside with the style number. I'd also like a photo of the dogleash clip on the zipper and any stampings on it..

As specified in Post number One of this thread, if this is from an online auction or selling site, we need the URL of the original listing.
 
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Hyacinth said:
They're still barely visible. And it's very possible that the workers in whatever non-US country sewed the jacket just got the pattern alignment wrong. The lining doesn't prove anything.

And we can't give any opinion based only on the one picture you supplied. We need photos of the entire jacket, front and back, and ALL tags or labels inside the jacket and the pockets, there probably should also be a tag somewhere inside with the style number. I'd also like a photo of the dogleash clip on the zipper and any stampings on it..

As specified in Post number One of this thread, if this is from an online auction or selling site, we need the URL of the original listing.
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I’m sorry hyacinth I’m on my iPad and I can’t figure out how to get the url from Macari. But the seller is Mishs marketplace. This is a copy of her other Picts. She says there are no tags other than the one showing
 
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sb2 said:
View attachment 3946842 The C’s On the lining of this jacket don’t seem to be facing right? Are there some that do go this way or is it fake. I know it’s a dark picture you can see them best on the bottom half of the jacket
Thanks for looking
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Hyacinth said:
They're still barely visible. And it's very possible that the workers in whatever non-US country sewed the jacket just got the pattern alignment wrong. The lining doesn't prove anything.

And we can't give any opinion based only on the one picture you supplied. We need photos of the entire jacket, front and back, and ALL tags or labels inside the jacket and the pockets, there probably should also be a tag somewhere inside with the style number. I'd also like a photo of the dogleash clip on the zipper and any stampings on it..

As specified in Post number One of this thread, if this is from an online auction or selling site, we need the URL of the original listing.
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I’m sorry hyacinth I’m on my iPad and I can’t figure out how to get the url from Macari. But the seller is Mishs marketplace. This is a copy of her other Picts. She says there are no tags other than the one showing
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Here's the listing:
https://item.mercari.com/gl/m74880281627/
Seller Posted by Mish’s Marketplace

It's probably okay but to confirm, I'd like to see closeups of the Coach neck label and the small label under it.
 
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BeenBurned said:
Here's the listing:
https://item.mercari.com/gl/m74880281627/
Seller Posted by Mish’s Marketplace

It's probably okay but to confirm, I'd like to see closeups of the Coach neck label and the small label under it.
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Hey BeenBurned, there's a different size one listed on Ebay with what looks like the same lining with the sideways Cs, what do you think? The "Made In Korea" worries me but we HAVE seen genuine clothing items from Korea before:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Ladi...089259?hash=item21379f056b:g:Eg0AAOSwvTpaCIHf
 
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sb2 said:
Thank you. On the lining I thought they all did 2 connecting Cs one direction and then 2 not connecting. But this one looked like the Cs facing normal is only a single so I didn’t know they came that way too.
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The C pattern is sideways, maybe that's what's throwing you off?

I THINK it's ok, but please wait for BeenBurned to confirm if you can. All my limited experience with jackets has been of the older ones with stamped serial numbers.
 
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BeenBurned said:
Here's the listing:
https://item.mercari.com/gl/m74880281627/
Seller Posted by Mish’s Marketplace

It's probably okay but to confirm, I'd like to see closeups of the Coach neck label and the small label under it.
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sb2 said:
Thank you. On the lining I thought they all did 2 connecting Cs one direction and then 2 not connecting. But this one looked like the Cs facing normal is only a single so I didn’t know they came that way too.
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Hyacinth said:
Hey BeenBurned, there's a different size one listed on Ebay with what looks like the same lining with the sideways Cs, what do you think? The "Made In Korea" worries me but we HAVE seen genuine clothing items from Korea before:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Ladi...089259?hash=item21379f056b:g:Eg0AAOSwvTpaCIHf
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Hyacinth said:
The C pattern is sideways, maybe that's what's throwing you off?

I THINK it's ok, but please wait for BeenBurned to confirm if you can. All my limited experience with jackets has been of the older ones with stamped serial numbers.
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sb2 said:
Ya that looks like the same one. The single c bothered me. All my jackets that have the signature lining has all the Cs doubled just 1 set not touching and these ones aren’t like that
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The jacket posted by Hyacinth is authentic and I'm comfortable that the one on Mercari is fine too.

Coach clothing, scarves and other softlines goods are often made in Korea.

Here's another 1941 collection jacket made in Korea. And here's another.
In fact, it appears many of their leather jackets production is done in Korea:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Leat...466848?hash=item1a420051a0:g:nOAAAOSwzaJX6sJZ

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MENS-AUTHE...000104?hash=item41d9908028:g:FjUAAOSw4shX6xVt

@sb2 - The signature pattern lining is correct; it's just turned 90-degrees from as we usually see it. I don't generally pay a lot of attention to linings and the direction they're cut but this seems to be how they were made in this case.
 
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