Authenticate This Balenciaga

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please see post #1 for complete Balenciaga authentication rules. All requests must be posted in this thread. Authentications are not done via private message or in any other thread.

See the link below for examples of the photos needed and the format they should be in (clear, close up, forward-facing, no angles, right way up, no bends in tags).

https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/required-pics-for-balenciaga-authentication.741442/

A link to the listing in question is required.

It is an authenticator’s right to ignore a request that is not in the proper format. If the listing you are interested in is missing photos it is your responsibility to request them from the seller prior to posting in this thread.

Thanks and be well!

 

[muchstuff]

Taken a few more pictures of the interior tag and serial number, hope these are better! The tag with the serial number though is so shiny I’m not even able to get a better look of it in person than what it looks like in the pictures.

The rivet is the other side of the stud, it's the little circle with notches cut into it. The pic of the tag isn't bad but you have a bend in the middle which makes it hard to see all of the numbers on the right end. And if you could repost the front of the tag so it's right way up I'd appreciate it. Please post the pics full size, not thumbnails.

 

[janecm]

Oh sorry, didn’t realize they were uploaded as thumbnails. The tag itself is bent, so the best I can do is take pictures from different angles. As mentioned I’m not really able to see the numbers on it myself, so not sure I will be able to take a picture that’s good enough. Also, there’s fabric covering the rivet.

 

[muchstuff]

Oh sorry, didn’t realize they were uploaded as thumbnails. The tag itself is bent, so the best I can do is take pictures from different angles. As mentioned I’m not really able to see the numbers on it myself, so not sure I will be able to take a picture that’s good enough. Also, there’s fabric covering the rivet. View attachment 5362533View attachment 5362534View attachment 5362540View attachment 5362541View attachment 5362542

I do see some details of the font that look off, and the fact that the zipper head is blank is concerning. I'm going to call in help, @ksuromax do you have any knowledge of Le Cagole?

EDIT: What reasons do you have besides smell for your suspicions? The fact that they deleted their account is suspicious enough.

 

[janecm]

The last message I recieved from them was this one. I thought the part about both them and their mom being gifted one sounded a bit weird? They uploaded a second bag after I purchased. Also them declaring it for a lower value than it is worth makes absolutely zero sense on their end at all. It would mean that if it got lost during shipping, that amount is all they would receive. The only reason it wouldn’t be a huge loss for them is if it was fake.

I also just feel like it feels really cheap and like plastic to the touch. I haven’t been able to see the XS in store yet as it has been sold out for months where I live, but have been able to see and touch the larger sizes and don’t feel like this one compares.

Also, what’s your opinion on the cards of authentication? Is this actually something Balenciaga provides? When shopping with them previously all I’ve received is a receipt. I also noticed that the envelope has “Balenciaga” written over it in gray on one side and black on the other? I asked them to send it with the receipt from purchase to which they agreed, but didn’t do.

 

[muchstuff]

View attachment 5362574The last message I recieved from them was this one. I thought the part about both them and their mom being gifted one sounded a bit weird? They uploaded a second bag after I purchased. Also them declaring it for a lower value than it is worth makes absolutely zero sense on their end at all. It would mean that if it got lost during shipping, that amount is all they would receive. The only reason it wouldn’t be a huge loss for them is if it was fake.

I also just feel like it feels really cheap and like plastic to the touch. I haven’t been able to see the XS in store yet as it has been sold out for months where I live, but have been able to see and touch the larger sizes and don’t feel like this one compares.

I don't know anything about Depop at all. If it's a private seller she could just be being nice about the fees, I've done that myself for people. Are you able to see the second listing? Is she using the same photos? There are a few different leather finishes used for Le Cagole bags but as I mentioned I'm no expert on the style. There are definitely fakes being produced. Is there a logo and a MADE IN ITALY on the mirror?

 

[janecm]

I don't know anything about Depop at all. If it's a private seller she could just be being nice about the fees, I've done that myself for people. Are you able to see the second listing? Is she using the same photos? There are a few different leather finishes used for Le Cagole bags but as I mentioned I'm no expert on the style. There are definitely fakes being produced. Is there a logo and a MADE IN ITALY on the mirror?

I was able to see the listing before she deleted her account, and she was using the same pictures but also had a video of her showing the difficulties regarding the zipper. But as the account is deleted I don’t even have access to tha listing or even the one of the bag I purchased. She had copied the listing of the Balenciaga website, but no part about the leather finish. Yes, the mirror has a logo and “Made in Italy” on it, but as you said there are definitely fakes being produced. Another thing I think looks off is the logo on the dust bag, I feel like the letters are really wide compared to the original one, and not as bold as it should be? Also just googled the authenticity cards I received and the only results I’m getting are people selling blank ones on eBay/Depop/Carousell etc.

Her account was quite new and I believe I was the first one to purchase from her, she only had designer items uploaded. I didn’t put too much though into that just because I guess everyone has to start somewhere, but also after going though with the purchase the name on the PayPal receipt didn’t really seem that legit. They are the first person I have sent money to who only had their last name and “S.” written as their first name.

 

[muchstuff]

I was able to see the listing before she deleted her account, and she was using the same pictures but also had a video of her showing the difficulties regarding the zipper. But as the account is deleted I don’t even have access to tha listing or even the one of the bag I purchased. She had copied the listing of the Balenciaga website, but no part about the leather finish. If it is though, card of authenticity doesn’t specify Yes, the mirror has a logo and “Made in Italy” on it, but as you said there are definitely fakes being produced. Another thing I think looks off is the logo on the dust bag, I feel like the letters are really wide compared to the original one, and not as bold as it should be?

Her account was quite new and I believe I was the first one to purchase from her, she only had designer items uploaded. I didn’t put too much though into that just because I guess everyone has to start somewhere, but also after going though with the purchase the name on the PayPal receipt didn’t really seem that legit. They are the first person I have sent money to who only had their last name and “S.” written as their first name.

Can you post a full sized shot of the font on the mirror?

 

[muchstuff]

@janecm I’m offline for an hour or so.

 

[janecm]

I was able to see the listing before she deleted her account, and she was using the same pictures but also had a video of her showing the difficulties regarding the zipper. But as the account is deleted I don’t even have access to tha listing or even the one of the bag I purchased. She had copied the listing of the Balenciaga website, but no part about the leather finish. If it is though, card of authenticity doesn’t specify Yes, the mirror has a logo and “Made in Italy” on it, but as you said there are definitely fakes being produced. Another thing I think looks off is the logo on the dust bag, I feel like the letters are really wide compared to the original one, and not as bold as it should be?

Her account was quite new and I believe I was the first one to purchase from her, she only had designer items uploaded. I didn’t put too much though into that just because I guess everyone has to start somewhere, but also after going though with the purchase the name on the PayPal receipt didn’t really seem that legit. They are the first person I have sent money to who only had their last name and “S.” written as their first name.

Can you post a full sized shot of the font on the mirror?

 

[muchstuff]

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My gut says it's not authentic, it's very close but there are too many details that are off. Look at the shape of the half moon piece of leather on the bag front and compare it to an authentic bag. The zipper head should be a double B (the two Bs are back to back) and I've never seen a bag without the rivets showing although as I've said I haven't handled any of these bags. That, with her saying she's selling a second one and the account then being deleted, all sounds wrong.
You can wait and see if another authenticator chimes in, @ksuromax is busy but she may check in later, or tomorrow.

 

[ploychi]

Hello I recently bought this Balenciaga City bag from Ebay but I'm now questioning it's authenticity. The stitch in front of the bag is not straight, also some spot is not even. Anyone please help. Thank you so much in advance.
Link:

Balenciaga Classic City Bag in Rose -New Without Tags | eBay

Balenciaga Classic City Bag in Rose -New Without Tags. Perfect condition , never carried.PayPal only.Stored in a smoke free home.Shipping within the USA only.Paypal only. All sales are final.Shipping is FREE !!!

www.ebay.com

 

[muchstuff]

@janecm another TPF member messaged me to point out some other discrepancies she noticed as a Cagole owner. After all of the consideration on this bag I'm calling yours not authentic.

 

[muchstuff]

Hello I recently bought this Balenciaga City bag from Ebay but I'm now questioning it's authenticity. The stitch in front of the bag is not straight, also some spot is not even. Anyone please help. Thank you so much in advance.
Link:

Balenciaga Classic City Bag in Rose -New Without Tags | eBay

Balenciaga Classic City Bag in Rose -New Without Tags. Perfect condition , never carried.PayPal only.Stored in a smoke free home.Shipping within the USA only.Paypal only. All sales are final.Shipping is FREE !!!

www.ebay.com

Authentic in my opinion, F/W 2015 rose jaipur.

 

[ploychi]

Much appreciated for your opinion. Just another quick question…is it normal that sewing is not straight? (picture below) Thank you

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[ploychi]

Authentic in my opinion, F/W 2015 rose jaipur.

Authentic in my opinion, F/W 2015 rose jaipur.

Much appreciated for your opinion. Just another quick question…is it normal that sewing is not straight? (picture below) Thank you