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oh and apparently he’s broke. He blew all his family money. Let me find the article
He probably thought this was the worst article he’s ever see about him.
www.buzzfeednews.com
Ten Long Years of Trying to Make Armie Hammer Happen
How many second chances does a handsome white male star get?
To try to sum it up the reporter interviewed a professional dominatrix (if I recall correctly) who is into cannibal play and BDSM. She basically said that these fantasies are not super unusual and don't necessarily mean that a person who has these fantasies will act on them (in a non-role playing way) or be dangerous. She did say though that it's troubling that some of the texts from his supposed partners said they didn't like it or wanted to stop. Their point was the sexual behavior is not the issue it's the potential that it wasn't consensual.
He probably thought this was the worst article he’s ever see about him.
Ten Long Years of Trying to Make Armie Hammer Happen
How many second chances does a handsome white male star get?
Wow, I don’t know if that article revealed as much about Armie Hammer as it did about the woman who wrote it. She really dislikes him. The article is so incredibly long and she kept coming back to her speculation that the only reason he succeeded is because he is a tall good-looking white male actor. There are plenty of actors in Hollywood who were in horrible bombs before they finally broke through and became famous. Maybe he got more chances than he should have been given but the author doesn’t really provide evidence of that, only her opinion.
None of which has to do with the crazy stuff that is coming out about him now. Most famous people do a better job of being discreet about their kinks. He appears to flaunt his.
Wow, so much to understand about all of this. I just read the Wikipedia article on his grandfather, Armand Hammer. Due to his support of numerous philanthropic causes, he was nominated several times for a Nobel Peace Prize. This family has a fascinating history and has played an important role in American history. I am still stunned by this stuff about Armie. Not quite sure what he is playing at, this is bizarre. Not sure I believe the wife is innocent in all of this, then again who knows.
en.wikipedia.org
@sdkitty you may want to try again to access the article. I was able to open it, posted it as a spoiler.
Armand Hammer - Wikipedia
@sdkitty you may want to try again to access the article. I was able to open it, posted it as a spoiler.
We’re All Missing the Point of the Armie Hammer Cannibalism Scandal
The cannibalism fetish isn’t the most disturbing part of the leaked sexts that allegedly came from the Call Me By Your Name star
EJ Dickson January 16, 2021 9:00AM ET
Last week, unverified screengrabs of extremely lurid text messages allegedly sent by actor Armie Hammer between 2016 and 2020 were posted by the Instagram account @houseofeffie, which also compiled nearly half a dozen examples of women who claimed to have had an affair with Hammer while he was married. Some of the fantasies contained in the screengrabs were dark, to say the very least. In one, Hammer professes his desire to “bite pieces off of” the recipient and eat her heart; in another, he says, “I am 100% a cannibal. I want to eat you. ****. That’s scary to admit. I’ve never admitted that before.”
It’s important to note that the screengrabs have not been verified, and Hammer himself has denied that they are legitimate. (Representatives for Hammer did not immediately respond to a request for comment.) Yet after the celebrity gossip Instagram account Deuxmoi amplified them, they instantaneously went viral, with people on Twitter joking about his sexual proclivities and TikTok making videos of Hammer dancing set to Ke$ha’s “Cannibal.” The backlash grew so intense that Hammer was forced to drop out of his upcoming romcom with Jennifer Lopez, issuing a statement saying, “I’m not responding to these ******** claims but in light of the vicious and spurious online attacks against me, I cannot in good conscience now leave my children for 4 months to shoot a film in the Dominican Republic.” (Hammer is also engaged in a contentious custody dispute, which also served as fodder for people’s internet mockery).
That said, there is no reason to believe that Hammer has actually murdered and ingested an individual; if he had, one can only assume the promotional tour for The Lone Ranger would have been much less boring. What is up for debate, however, is whether such kinks are actually inherently predatory or abusive — or if there is not another conversation to be had about them, one that is a lot less memeable but significantly more nuanced than the one being had right now. So I asked Empress Wu, a professional dominatrix based in New York City, who has, as she puts it, a “deeply rooted cannibalism fetish.”
As Wu explains it, cannibalism fetishes have nothing to do with actually eating another person. “It’s predicated on a certain amount of fantasy and there are different elements to toy around with,” she says. She has made custom clips that play with the “vore” fetish (a similar fetish in which someone fantasizes about being small and being consumed by a giant) and participated in scenes where she’s bitten someone or pretended to cut them open, or talked about turning someone into a piece of meat and cutting into them. “To some people it might be like lancing your finger and making someone drink the blood. To others it might be biting. To others it might be eating someone out. It might be the theater of sitting at a table and eating sushi off their body,” she says. “I don’t think there’s a typical way you enact a cannibalism scene because the ultimate act itself is extremely unrealistic.”
Wu has engaged with the cannibalism fetish from both ends, as both a “consumer” and a “consumee.” As a domme, or the consumer, “the power or pleasure is derived from the knowledge that they’re willing to give part of themselves for my pleasure or nourishment,” she says. On the other side of the equation, “for me, there are a lot of different instances where it represents closeness,” she says. “When you really think about it, desire is about the craving to assimilate an other. When you are so ****ing into that person you need to have them or be owned by them or be entangled in a specific way, cannibalism as a fetish really highlights or fulfills this sense of wanting to be close to someone and the futility that it’ll never fully happen.”
Most experienced members of the kink community put a high premium on consent, and as is the case with most BDSM scenes, all of these dynamics are carefully negotiated beforehand, with both parties participating in an extensive post-play briefing to share what they did and didn’t enjoy about the experience; aftercare, or the period of time where the dominant tends to the sub’s physical and emotional needs, is imperative for even the most experienced kinksters.
At first, Empress Wu says, she was relatively unperturbed by the alleged Armie Hammer sexts: “they seemed pretty typically male dom-y, if not a slight bit extreme.” (For what it’s worth, Hammer has talked openly about his fondness for kink in a 2013 Playboy interview, and was busted for liking a rope-play tweetin 2017.) It was when she delved further into them that she started to see some “red flags.” In one message, after the recipient says that having a belt around her neck during sex is “too much,” Hammer responds, “yes”; in another, referring to a prior sexual encounter, a woman says, “I did truly want to stop for most of the time.” “That’s pretty explicitly a consent violation, and that’s the core of the issue,” she says. “It doesn’t matter what fetish it was, that’s irrelevant. But when there’s a boundary violation that is something that should always be paid attention to.”
To complicate matters further, Hammer’s exes have come forward to allege inappropriate or nonconsensual behavior. “He kind of captivates you and while being charming, he’s grooming you for these things that are darker and heavier and consuming,” ex-girlfriend Courtney Vucekovich, who dated Hammer from June to August, told Page Six, in addition to saying Hammer wanted to “barbecue and eat” her. “When I say consuming, I mean mentally, physically, emotionally, financially, just everything.” She added that he “did some things with me that I wasn’t comfortable with. You end up doing things that are very out-of-character for you, including sex acts,” though she wouldn’t specify what those were. Another one of Hammer’s former girlfriends, the writer Jessica Ciencin Henriquez, tweeted, ““If you are still questioning whether or not those Armie Hammer DMs are real (and they are) maybe you should start questioning why we live in a culture willing to give abusers the benefit of the doubt instead of victims.”
Empress Wu says that the discourse surrounding Hammer’s transgressions should focus less on his alleged kinks and more on the alleged consent violations that occurred with the women in these texts. “I consider it a bad representation of BDSM because I don’t consider it BDSM,” she says. If the messages are real, “this man has a fetish, this man has a kink, but I don’t think it was true BDSM because there was a clear consent violation that occurred. It’s just, like, spicy assault.”
The cannibalism fetish isn’t the most disturbing part of the leaked sexts that allegedly came from the Call Me By Your Name star
EJ Dickson January 16, 2021 9:00AM ET
Last week, unverified screengrabs of extremely lurid text messages allegedly sent by actor Armie Hammer between 2016 and 2020 were posted by the Instagram account @houseofeffie, which also compiled nearly half a dozen examples of women who claimed to have had an affair with Hammer while he was married. Some of the fantasies contained in the screengrabs were dark, to say the very least. In one, Hammer professes his desire to “bite pieces off of” the recipient and eat her heart; in another, he says, “I am 100% a cannibal. I want to eat you. ****. That’s scary to admit. I’ve never admitted that before.”
It’s important to note that the screengrabs have not been verified, and Hammer himself has denied that they are legitimate. (Representatives for Hammer did not immediately respond to a request for comment.) Yet after the celebrity gossip Instagram account Deuxmoi amplified them, they instantaneously went viral, with people on Twitter joking about his sexual proclivities and TikTok making videos of Hammer dancing set to Ke$ha’s “Cannibal.” The backlash grew so intense that Hammer was forced to drop out of his upcoming romcom with Jennifer Lopez, issuing a statement saying, “I’m not responding to these ******** claims but in light of the vicious and spurious online attacks against me, I cannot in good conscience now leave my children for 4 months to shoot a film in the Dominican Republic.” (Hammer is also engaged in a contentious custody dispute, which also served as fodder for people’s internet mockery).
That said, there is no reason to believe that Hammer has actually murdered and ingested an individual; if he had, one can only assume the promotional tour for The Lone Ranger would have been much less boring. What is up for debate, however, is whether such kinks are actually inherently predatory or abusive — or if there is not another conversation to be had about them, one that is a lot less memeable but significantly more nuanced than the one being had right now. So I asked Empress Wu, a professional dominatrix based in New York City, who has, as she puts it, a “deeply rooted cannibalism fetish.”
As Wu explains it, cannibalism fetishes have nothing to do with actually eating another person. “It’s predicated on a certain amount of fantasy and there are different elements to toy around with,” she says. She has made custom clips that play with the “vore” fetish (a similar fetish in which someone fantasizes about being small and being consumed by a giant) and participated in scenes where she’s bitten someone or pretended to cut them open, or talked about turning someone into a piece of meat and cutting into them. “To some people it might be like lancing your finger and making someone drink the blood. To others it might be biting. To others it might be eating someone out. It might be the theater of sitting at a table and eating sushi off their body,” she says. “I don’t think there’s a typical way you enact a cannibalism scene because the ultimate act itself is extremely unrealistic.”
Wu has engaged with the cannibalism fetish from both ends, as both a “consumer” and a “consumee.” As a domme, or the consumer, “the power or pleasure is derived from the knowledge that they’re willing to give part of themselves for my pleasure or nourishment,” she says. On the other side of the equation, “for me, there are a lot of different instances where it represents closeness,” she says. “When you really think about it, desire is about the craving to assimilate an other. When you are so ****ing into that person you need to have them or be owned by them or be entangled in a specific way, cannibalism as a fetish really highlights or fulfills this sense of wanting to be close to someone and the futility that it’ll never fully happen.”
Most experienced members of the kink community put a high premium on consent, and as is the case with most BDSM scenes, all of these dynamics are carefully negotiated beforehand, with both parties participating in an extensive post-play briefing to share what they did and didn’t enjoy about the experience; aftercare, or the period of time where the dominant tends to the sub’s physical and emotional needs, is imperative for even the most experienced kinksters.
At first, Empress Wu says, she was relatively unperturbed by the alleged Armie Hammer sexts: “they seemed pretty typically male dom-y, if not a slight bit extreme.” (For what it’s worth, Hammer has talked openly about his fondness for kink in a 2013 Playboy interview, and was busted for liking a rope-play tweetin 2017.) It was when she delved further into them that she started to see some “red flags.” In one message, after the recipient says that having a belt around her neck during sex is “too much,” Hammer responds, “yes”; in another, referring to a prior sexual encounter, a woman says, “I did truly want to stop for most of the time.” “That’s pretty explicitly a consent violation, and that’s the core of the issue,” she says. “It doesn’t matter what fetish it was, that’s irrelevant. But when there’s a boundary violation that is something that should always be paid attention to.”
To complicate matters further, Hammer’s exes have come forward to allege inappropriate or nonconsensual behavior. “He kind of captivates you and while being charming, he’s grooming you for these things that are darker and heavier and consuming,” ex-girlfriend Courtney Vucekovich, who dated Hammer from June to August, told Page Six, in addition to saying Hammer wanted to “barbecue and eat” her. “When I say consuming, I mean mentally, physically, emotionally, financially, just everything.” She added that he “did some things with me that I wasn’t comfortable with. You end up doing things that are very out-of-character for you, including sex acts,” though she wouldn’t specify what those were. Another one of Hammer’s former girlfriends, the writer Jessica Ciencin Henriquez, tweeted, ““If you are still questioning whether or not those Armie Hammer DMs are real (and they are) maybe you should start questioning why we live in a culture willing to give abusers the benefit of the doubt instead of victims.”
Empress Wu says that the discourse surrounding Hammer’s transgressions should focus less on his alleged kinks and more on the alleged consent violations that occurred with the women in these texts. “I consider it a bad representation of BDSM because I don’t consider it BDSM,” she says. If the messages are real, “this man has a fetish, this man has a kink, but I don’t think it was true BDSM because there was a clear consent violation that occurred. It’s just, like, spicy assault.”
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Don't confuse true BDSM and kink with this guy. Not having safe words and talking about cannibalism PLUS his drug use and apparent control issues with money and these women? All of them are HUGE red flags- this man is dangerous.
Anyone into BDSM knows how important safe words are, no matter how far you push the boundaries. Armie is into sadism which is different.
His parents are Christian fundamentalists so I would say it's not that he's spent the family money - it's that he's been cut off from it due to his behaviours. With his divorce settlement and the amount he's spending on drugs, it's very easy to see that he may have spent his own personal money.
Given the drug testing etc it's pretty obvious at least some of his issues were known about for a while in Hollywood. There's an interesting comment by an anonymous actor (supposedly Michael Shannon or Jake Gyllenhaal) that basically says Armie is someone that made them feel very uncomfortable with his behaviour.
Anyone into BDSM knows how important safe words are, no matter how far you push the boundaries. Armie is into sadism which is different.
His parents are Christian fundamentalists so I would say it's not that he's spent the family money - it's that he's been cut off from it due to his behaviours. With his divorce settlement and the amount he's spending on drugs, it's very easy to see that he may have spent his own personal money.
Given the drug testing etc it's pretty obvious at least some of his issues were known about for a while in Hollywood. There's an interesting comment by an anonymous actor (supposedly Michael Shannon or Jake Gyllenhaal) that basically says Armie is someone that made them feel very uncomfortable with his behaviour.
Ok so I've given myself some time to research an reflect. I am NOT a fan of Armie Hammer by the way. So here's my take on this whole scandal:
1. first of all, there have been many similar allegations toward male public figures that turned out to be fake, so please do NOT immediately believe everything you read online
2. as far as I'm concern, the women that had spoken up are all above 18 years old if this allegation is true. These whole affairs are between consenting adults
3. Having r*pe or c*nnibalism fantasy isn't illegal though it grosses me out but then again even foot fetishes gross me tf out. To this day there is no evidence that suggests he has eaten a human being
4. If these allegations are true including the rape one, these women need to report to the police, not just speak on social media. Again, there have been many false accusations on social media these days so if they're serious, they're going to report this
5. Initially, houseofeffie said in a DM with an Armie's fan that everything between them was consensual, but then she somehow changed the story
6. Houseofeffie had a website that had been reported for scamming, also in that website she flaunted about being very kinky and whatnot, she wasn't groomed by Armie into being that way
7. There are speculations that Elizabeth Chambers (his soon to be ex wife) is orchestrating this whole scandal so she would get a full custody of their children, but there is no evidence to these speculations yet
Soooo yeah those are things I've gathered. Maybe I'll add more later. I personally think the receipts houseofeffie look quite legit, but then again we don't know. If you like to read conspiracy theories like me, you'll know that a lot of weird things are allegedly happening in Hollywood. But please keep in mind the principle "innocent until proven guilty", which means we need to stay neutral until the charge has been proved beyond reasonable doubt. Let's encourage these women to report to the police
1. first of all, there have been many similar allegations toward male public figures that turned out to be fake, so please do NOT immediately believe everything you read online
2. as far as I'm concern, the women that had spoken up are all above 18 years old if this allegation is true. These whole affairs are between consenting adults
3. Having r*pe or c*nnibalism fantasy isn't illegal though it grosses me out but then again even foot fetishes gross me tf out. To this day there is no evidence that suggests he has eaten a human being
4. If these allegations are true including the rape one, these women need to report to the police, not just speak on social media. Again, there have been many false accusations on social media these days so if they're serious, they're going to report this
5. Initially, houseofeffie said in a DM with an Armie's fan that everything between them was consensual, but then she somehow changed the story
6. Houseofeffie had a website that had been reported for scamming, also in that website she flaunted about being very kinky and whatnot, she wasn't groomed by Armie into being that way
7. There are speculations that Elizabeth Chambers (his soon to be ex wife) is orchestrating this whole scandal so she would get a full custody of their children, but there is no evidence to these speculations yet
Soooo yeah those are things I've gathered. Maybe I'll add more later. I personally think the receipts houseofeffie look quite legit, but then again we don't know. If you like to read conspiracy theories like me, you'll know that a lot of weird things are allegedly happening in Hollywood. But please keep in mind the principle "innocent until proven guilty", which means we need to stay neutral until the charge has been proved beyond reasonable doubt. Let's encourage these women to report to the police
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I’ll say it again — Not sure I believe the wife is innocent in all of this, then again who knows.
Sadly, the people who get hurt in these public divorces are the children. Hope it all ends quickly and more amicably than it currently is.
He says lots in this interview. He is 4 years younger than the ex. She was dating a friend of his when they met. Sounds like there is so much more to this story. They seriously need to take it off social media.
Until this point, Chambers and Hammer had been open with their love story. They met back in 2006, when Hammer was about 20, and Chambers about 24. She was dating one of his friends, so they remained friends for roughly two years.
"Our friendship continued to grow and grow until one day when I was like, ‘I can’t be friends with you anymore. You’ve got to break up with your boyfriend, and we’ve got to start dating," Hammer told Vulture in 2017.
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Sadly, the people who get hurt in these public divorces are the children. Hope it all ends quickly and more amicably than it currently is.
He says lots in this interview. He is 4 years younger than the ex. She was dating a friend of his when they met. Sounds like there is so much more to this story. They seriously need to take it off social media.
Until this point, Chambers and Hammer had been open with their love story. They met back in 2006, when Hammer was about 20, and Chambers about 24. She was dating one of his friends, so they remained friends for roughly two years.
"Our friendship continued to grow and grow until one day when I was like, ‘I can’t be friends with you anymore. You’ve got to break up with your boyfriend, and we’ve got to start dating," Hammer told Vulture in 2017.
Armie Hammer Called His Divorce a "Seriously Seismic Event"
The "Rebecca" star and Elizabeth Chambers separated in July.
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interesting....assuming all of this stuff about him is true, wonder if it came from a repressed childhood
Very true. I wish everyone could read the Rolling Stone article I posted but the darn thing is blocked for some. The woman interviewed put everything you've mentioned regarding BSDM much more eloquently than I did. Safe words, consent, and lots of communication are key when people participate in this kind of sexual play.
I tend to defy logic when processing this kind of stuff. I assume the victim is telling the truth but I also assume the perpetrator is innocent until proven guilty (though sometimes they're not proven guilty but I pass the guilty verdict on my own).
He would never have had the family money himself. He is the great-grandson of Armand Hammer. His father Michael controls whatever is left of the estate. That said, from what I read yesterday he was raised in a life of great privilege, spending much of his childhood living in the Cayman Islands.
Thank you for posting it.