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#16
LvoemyLV said:
I wish I could have gotten the dark blue, but it’s unavailable so just the green with brown shell. I regretted not ordering before so when I saw it restocked I jumped. I normally don’t buy charms because i struggle with spending so much on. Something not very useful, but I had to have this one.
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That’s the one I got. It’s my favorite one since it looks the most like a turtle because of the coloring.
 
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LvoemyLV said:
The size is smaller than the high rise, but with the pocket on the front I can still fit the same items (key pouch filled with cards attached to one key and one fob, mini pochette, giant size epi pen, lip balm, Noshinku sanitizer spray, and pill case in large compartment, iPhone with case in front pocket).

The strap is actually very generous. I think maybe because it’s in the mens collection. I actually have it on the 2nd smallest hole and wear crossbody which shocked me. The treated vachetta is AMAZING. I highly recommend it if you are considering it. It is a different look from the high rise so I will be happily using both. And attaching my turtle to it lol
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Wow so so beautiful!
Love your turtle, too!!❤️
Thank you for the details, I think your vachetta colour is better than the official picture. So beautiful!!

I got the shipping confirmation and the online receipt from LV, still waiting for the UPS :)
 
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I finally got this!! Mine is made in Italy, too.I absolutely love this wide treated vachetta leather.
But there’s one concern. The stitching on the backside is a bit rough. (see attached 3rd pic)
I am not that picky so as long as it doesn’t get worse, I can ignore it but… what about yours dear LvoemyLV? Do you think it’s normal?
 

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I noticed that as well and am wondering if it is because it has a finish on the leather, if that makes sense. I have to find which bag it is, but I know one of my DE straps has similar where it is stitched. It’s just not as soft as Empreinte or untreated vachetta.

I honestly wasn’t too concerned since it’s only on the inside and was on this one and the display at the store. Because they can replace leather parts/fix stitching if need be 😊
 

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LvoemyLV said:
I noticed that as well and am wondering if it is because it has a finish on the leather, if that makes sense. I have to find which bag it is, but I know one of my DE straps has similar where it is stitched. It’s just not as soft as Empreinte or untreated vachetta.

I honestly wasn’t too concerned since it’s only on the inside and was on this one and the display at the store. Because they can replace leather parts/fix stitching if need be 😊
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Oh thank you so much, LvoemyLV, you are right. The front stitching holes are way bigger than the normal vachetta, I didn’t notice😅 The material is different so it’s natural that’s the finish would be different as well!
Thank you LvoemyLV, you made my day😊😊
 
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grandpiano said:
Oh thank you so much, LvoemyLV, you are right. The front stitching holes are way bigger than the normal vachetta, I didn’t notice😅 The material is different so it’s natural that’s the finish would be different as well!
Thank you LvoemyLV, you made my day😊😊
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They are way bigger! I almost wonder if they are pre-punched or something… lol. If the front part was like that I would be bothered but I don’t mind the inside. I have my new graceful out and was curious now, but even that is not the nicest on the underside
 

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Congrats on your new graceful! Since it’s enlarged that’s why … but I think it looks ok under normal circumstances😊. As long as the stitching on the surface is neat, that bag is beautiful😊
 
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grandpiano said:
I finally got this!! Mine is made in Italy, too.I absolutely love this wide treated vachetta leather.
But there’s one concern. The stitching on the backside is a bit rough. (see attached 3rd pic)
I am not that picky so as long as it doesn’t get worse, I can ignore it but… what about yours dear LvoemyLV? Do you think it’s normal?
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This is very normal these days at Vuitton. The leather sewing machines need to be VERY strong, so the needle can go through the thick cowhide. But budget luxury brands — like our favourite here — needed to optimize and boost production, so their machines are set to VERY fast too. That is why they literally rip through the leather. On the underside this show spectacularly. Many on the forum did complain about having little circlemarks around the stitching on their neverfull handle tabs. Those are the same circles as you see here, as the machine rams into the leather, in that case, on the front.
Hermès uses much much slower Adler machines, that is why they can get away with it (and also very few people can tell different kinds of stitchings apart).
Since the Dior scandal happened and the truth came out, I am not surprised by stitching like this, since the workers (refugees) in those Italian sweatshops LVMH uses have literally minutes to assemble their parts. No time for teeny-tiny adjustments, taking their time or doing anything that resembles classic craftsmanship.

On the bright side they still use excellent materials, so even though it looks rough, the product will last years and years, so you don't need to worry about it falling apart or fraying anytime soon.
 
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BULL said:
This is very normal these days at Vuitton. The leather sewing machines need to be VERY strong, so the needle can go through the thick cowhide. But budget luxury brands — like our favourite here — needed to optimize and boost production, so their machines are set to VERY fast too. That is why they literally rip through the leather. On the underside this show spectacularly. Many on the forum did complain about having little circlemarks around the stitching on their neverfull handle tabs. Those are the same circles as you see here, as the machine rams into the leather, in that case, on the front.
Hermès uses much much slower Adler machines, that is why they can get away with it (and also very few people can tell different kinds of stitchings apart).
Since the Dior scandal happened and the truth came out, I am not surprised by stitching like this, since the workers (refugees) in those Italian sweatshops LVMH uses have literally minutes to assemble their parts. No time for teeny-tiny adjustments, taking their time or doing anything that resembles classic craftsmanship.

On the bright side they still use excellent materials, so even though it looks rough, the product will last years and years, so you don't need to worry about it falling apart or fraying anytime soon.
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Thank you for your response. It’s eye-opening to hear about the backside. It’s unfortunate that the focus on production efficiency leads to a drop in quality. 🙁 I looked at the stitching on my Neverfull, and it was beautiful.

As for being made in Italy, are refugees making them? I hipe they are treated well.
My Louis bags are all made in France & USA. And small leather goods are all made in Spain. (not sure my sunglasses and scarves) Made in Italy is my first experience though.
 
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grandpiano said:
Congrats on your new graceful! Since it’s enlarged that’s why … but I think it looks ok under normal circumstances😊. As long as the stitching on the surface is neat, that bag is beautiful😊
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I have to say… I love bumbags more than most my bags lately, but impulsively bought the Gracefull mm a few weeks ago and think it may be one of my all time favorite bags. It’s so big and slouchy lol.
 
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grandpiano said:
I hipe they are treated well.
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That is the point, they are not. Appalling work conditions, 12 hour shifts for 7 days a week. Sweatshops, literally. Slavery. They have a documentary on YouTube titled "Inside Italy’s designer bag sweatshops", I recommend it highly. The workshop in the film was making Montblanc leathergoods on that day, but they do many brands like Gucci, Dior, etc...
When the scandal happened, it was only Dior under the LVMH umbrella that was caught, but let's be realistic, it is much more widespread. Especially that for Vuitton 'Made in Italy' was rare back then, now it is VERY common. And mostly for the season pieces that must come out quickly with lots of changes. While the regular Speedies and Neverfulls are done at a slower pace in France.
 
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