Advice on upgrading my Engagement Ring

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^^ Yes, please research the marquise bow-tie effect before you start shopping! That would be most important to me, over color and clarity (G-I, SI is my sweet spot).
 
Yes, I am definitely going to look at the appraisal carefully before purchase.


Fancies are harder to judge "cut" quality compared to a round or a princess. You will have to do some side-by-side comparisons to find what makes your eyes light up, and as long as an appraiser agrees, that's all that matters.
 
This helps a lot!! I think that is why my current stone doesn't have a lot of sparkle to it compared to other marquise stones. I have a F/SI2 which is good for color/clarity, but the cut is rated Good. So I think I need to go to an excellant cut for the stone to really sparkle. I always thought it was a clarity issue, sounds like it is a cut issue instead. It does have some sparkle, just not as much as I'd like.



I think a lot of people confuse diamond shape with cut since we describe the shape of a diamond by calling it a certain type of cut, etc. So, Marquise round brilliant cut refers to the diamond shape, whereas each diamond also has a cut rating, ie. excellent, very good, good, fair, or poorly cut. It's probably the most important spec in a lot of ways, but, oddly, seems to be the forgotten spec.

So, tell your jeweler that you want a marquise with an excellent rated cut (if that's what you want). Hope this helps.
 
Yes, be careful with the cut, that's what affects the sparkle. I'd stay with Excellent or Very Good. Maybe get advice from the people at Pricescope once you have narrowed down stones--but be aware that they tend to be very perfectionistic and can make you nervous about very nice stones (and also that they tend suggest a very narrow group of vendors, all of whom are great but there are other good people out there.) I strongly recommend them, but do think you should keep these two things in mind.

My concern would be, if you go down from F color, you might notice that the stone is lower color (yellower) and it might annoy you, if you are used to the iciness of "F". Marquise are not like round brilliants, they hold color and show color more, especially in the tips. This is something to be aware of before thinking of going down as low as an H (which is great in an ideal cut round brilliant and still very white, but maybe not so much in a marquise). Also, marquise stones show it more when they are lower clarity also.

I say this as someone who is currently buying (on layawaY) a marquise which is I color and SI3 (I1, really) clarity and that is fine with me because the price is really right, and it's not my e-ring--it's just a fun piece of bling. If it were my e-ring, I would be a LOT more picky (and expect to pay more, which wouldn't be hard, as it's only $1500).

Congrats on your upgrade; how exciting, enjoy your new stone.
 
Thanks, this really helps. My ring does have sparkle, I just want more sparkle, lol :p I also notice it gets dirty really easily and loses the sparkle then. Maybe that is common and I don't clean my ring enough. It sparkles tons after being cleaned, then seems to lose sparkle after being worn a day. I guess I should clean my ring more??



Step 1 - Cut Spec
Here is reference for cut spec.
http://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/marquise-cut-diamond/

Step 2 - Check stone in Person
Check bow-tie, brightness, fire, and shape.
 
Ya, my cut is rated good now and think I need to go to Very Good or Excellent. I do love my F stone and would have to see one in person that is rated lower in color. Am open to it though.

If the ring you are getting was your e-ring, what specs would you be looking for on color and clarity?

Yes, be careful with the cut, that's what affects the sparkle. I'd stay with Excellent or Very Good. Maybe get advice from the people at Pricescope once you have narrowed down stones--but be aware that they tend to be very perfectionistic and can make you nervous about very nice stones (and also that they tend suggest a very narrow group of vendors, all of whom are great but there are other good people out there.) I strongly recommend them, but do think you should keep these two things in mind.

My concern would be, if you go down from F color, you might notice that the stone is lower color (yellower) and it might annoy you, if you are used to the iciness of "F". Marquise are not like round brilliants, they hold color and show color more, especially in the tips. This is something to be aware of before thinking of going down as low as an H (which is great in an ideal cut round brilliant and still very white, but maybe not so much in a marquise). Also, marquise stones show it more when they are lower clarity also.

I say this as someone who is currently buying (on layawaY) a marquise which is I color and SI3 (I1, really) clarity and that is fine with me because the price is really right, and it's not my e-ring--it's just a fun piece of bling. If it were my e-ring, I would be a LOT more picky (and expect to pay more, which wouldn't be hard, as it's only $1500).

Congrats on your upgrade; how exciting, enjoy your new stone.
 
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