Judging by the start of this thread - about 2007/2008? Marie Touchet or Seton might know for sure. I remember my SA being so very excited (and being a guy, his enthusiasm quite bowled me over lol). The BdG was introduced as a 90 Dipdye before the 140 came out the following year.When did the dip dyes start, Lanit? I think they arare so special.