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That looks like it....thank you. That's what I was looking for....to know which bag it cam from...thank you...you are awesome
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That looks like it....thank you. That's what I was looking for....to know which bag it cam from...thank you...you are awesome
You're sweet. Happy to help!
I recently got this cutie at Goodwill and since the creed consists of all numbers, I was just lost as to where I should start to figure out the name/year of this bag. Any information would be great! Thank you in advance!
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It's a Chauncey bag #9897 from the Carriage Classics collection from around 1992.
It is interesting that my catalog page says this style was introduced in 1992, but the format of the creed number(xxx-xxxx) is what we always assumed was from 1989-1990.
Thank you, whateve! You are absolutely amazing. With the name and style number, I learned that you have a Chauncey bag in Olive!
I've seen other bags with the old creeds stretching into 1992, including other Carriage Classics, a Chester, and maybe a dozen other styles including a few smaller travel bags and some of the 50th Anniversary Retros. It's just another example of the famous Inconsistency Rule.
Interesting! Would you say that the xxx-xxxx format with a US creed could be any time between 1989-1992, and the xxxx-xxx format is from 1990-1993?
From what we've learned in the last 5 years since the Salearea Guides were first posted, this seems to be the best current timeline of the serial number changes:
The Made In USA and Made In The United States creeds combined with the all-numeric xxx-xxxx serial numbers started in early 1988, although a few stray NYC creeds have been found in 1988 bags too.
The 3+4 numeric serial numbers were MOSTLY replaced in 1990 by the 4+3 numeric serials but a few 3+4 serials are still found in bags that can be dated to 1991 and 1992. The 4+3 all-number codes continued until the end of 1993 / beginning of 1994.
I doubt if every single stamp would have been replaced exactly on the first of the year, nor were the serials and creed stamps always changed at the same time. We've seen the old "scars, scratches..." creed stamp continue to be used as late as 1996 while almost all the serial numbers were updated to the alpha-numeric replacements that included the style numbers and production codes early in 1994. So Coach didn't or couldn't force ALL these changes into effect by one specific date such as January First of 1994.
Even if it was practical to change the information in the Guides, replacing it with what I just posted above - and PLEASE let me know if anyone believes the dates or information is muddled! - would just lead to even more confusion. What's already in the Guides can be hard enough for many people to process and remember without adding anything even more complicated. Like with everything else Coach does, there are always going to be exceptions.
Would anyone know what Coach bag this is? I bought this from Bloomingdales in the summer of 2014 and never knew the name of it. The color of the bag is a blush color (but looks white in this photo due to my lack do photo skills, this was taken on a cell phone and also the room was a little on the dark side).
Thank you for anyone who can give me some insight.
Thank you for anyone who can give me some insight.
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It's a Madison gathered leather Georgie. If it is a pinkish color, it was called neutral pink.
I should also mention that most of the assumed dates of the styles made before 1994 are based on when a style would be listed as "New" in one of Coach's catalogs (luckily I have a pretty good sampling of them going back to about 1986). It seems like that might cover a period of about 3 months in the late 1980s or two catalog releases in the 1990s, depending on how far back you go, and anything before 1986 or 1987 probably isn't going to be very exact. It also seems like a new style could have been in production or pre-production including some sort of Quality Control - back when Coach actually paid attention to things like that - for several months before the bags first appeared in the catalogs.
So for instance a style that first appeared as New in the first Spring catalog of the year could have been made in November or December of the year before. This seems similar to the lead time we've seen for new styles once Coach started using date codes in the serial numbers. Pre-production time may have been a little longer when the Cahns still owned the company, and is probably a lot shorter now than it was back then. Again, these are just my impressions, not proven facts. YMMD.
Hi Ladies,
I got a offer to get this wallet with code: F1482 53769 ( Made in Thailand). I'm not sure if the code and the wallet is the real one or not. Could you take a look and advise me the model of it. Thank you so much
I got a offer to get this wallet with code: F1482 53769 ( Made in Thailand). I'm not sure if the code and the wallet is the real one or not. Could you take a look and advise me the model of it. Thank you so much
