Heather Mills makes domestic violence allegations

#31
shoegal said:
I don't know - I just believe that people always show you who they really are. It is sometimes just a matter of us listening. I am not saying that it can not happen - I just know from my own personal experience when people I loved, trusted, respected etc., turned out not to be who I thought they were - in hindsight I could see the signs quite clearly but I chose not to listen. Are her allegations of physical abuse? I wasn't sure from conflicting stories in the news but I know that someone can't easily decide to leave their mate with any type of abuse. I was not implying that its an easy thing to do. That wasn't what I said - I just questioned her motive in making the accusation at this point instead of right at the split. And no, you can't judge a book by its cover that is why I don't blindly accept what she says. My husband and I are friends with a couple where the wife called the police saying he hit her. The cops show up and investigate and find out she had stopped taking her meds - she's manic/depressive. After talking with her she admitted that it hadn't happened she just wanted someone to make him admit he was having a nonexistent affair. So there are so many other things that could be going on here... I thought I was just expressing the need that everyone reserve judgement instead of assuming it is true.
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I swear....I wasn't coming down on you:smile: ...and I absolutely think everyone has the right to their own opinion...I don't care much for H.M., actually, I don't even care about her at all!!! But all the bad press about her at first made me wonder...how come none of it came out while they were dating or married???? I think that maybe she could be lying now...or maybe she didn't want to say anything for the sake of her child...and was hoping things could be settled nicely! Either way...there are always two sides to every story...and it seems that a marital breakdown is usually not just one person's fault!! Anyway... I am sorry if you thought that I was being rude to you, as I was really not wanting to come across that way:flowers:
 
#32
Again, it'll be interesting to see if this gets settled all of a sudden.

I find it interesting also that no one condemned Denise Richards when she made similar (and worse) allegations against Charlie Sheen. In fact, she married him knowing he had an abusive past. She wasn't condemned for that either. She was not called a liar or a scumbag. In fact, she received a lot of very sympathetic posts here. Sheen also denied the allegations but then settled "amicably" with her not long after they were revealed.

http://forum.purseblog.com/celebrit...ny-scary-14594.html?highlight=denise+richards
 
#33
Roo said:
Again, it'll be interesting to see if this gets settled all of a sudden.

I find it interesting also that no one condemned Denise Richards when she made similar (and worse) allegations against Charlie Sheen. In fact, she married him knowing he had an abusive past. She wasn't condemned for that either. She was not called a liar or a scumbag. In fact, she received a lot of very sympathetic posts here. Sheen also denied the allegations but then settled "amicably" with her not long after they were revealed.

http://forum.purseblog.com/celebrit...ny-scary-14594.html?highlight=denise+richards
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I never saw that thread or heard that story. Now that I have come from under my rock I don't feel sorry for Denise - if that is true. I do feel sorry for her children. Perhaps the amicable settlement was to be allowed to see his children. She is scum for dating a friend or former BFF husband. And her I'm from the midwest excuse, I'm not used to this behavior or I hadn't heard of his past is ridiculous! I live maybe 20 minutes from the town she grew up in and its not hicktown. And I lived in LA for 10 years. People are MORE than willing to share rumors and reputations - true or otherwise. She in fact proves what I've said - people show you who they really are, sometimes we just choose not to listen.
 
#34
Well, it is all about money now...sure things will come out on her part.
It is amazing they never came out ever so long ago...she sure seemed to smile alot for the press when she was with him. Make you kind of wonder if she was just doing it all for the money?
 
#35
I don't remember Denise claiming to drag her handicapped self up airline steps or out of her home pulling her wheelchair, crutches & belongings. Did Denise cry physical abuse at all, I remember the childlike porn stuff, & verbal slurs. I still believe a lot of what Denise claimed, Charlie is a sex addict & an addict will lash out in any way at any person wo comes between them & their addiction.
 
#36
taco said:
I don't remember Denise claiming to drag her handicapped self up airline steps or out of her home pulling her wheelchair, crutches & belongings. Did Denise cry physical abuse at all, I remember the childlike porn stuff, & verbal slurs. I still believe a lot of what Denise claimed, Charlie is a sex addict & an addict will lash out in any way at any person wo comes between them & their addiction.
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What, exactly, is a "handicapped self"? Um, what does that mean?

And yes, Denise alleged physical abuse and threats. There is a link in my previous post and you can go there and read about it in her court papers.
 
#37
I'm not a lawyer, so maybe someone can tell me if I'm wrong...
Shouldn't be these allegations kept private during a divorce? Or they can be easily known by everyone, including PRESS? I must admit, I'm a big Beatles's fan, but I always try to analyse every aspect of situations and admit if someone failed. So, IMO, poor Heather is just trying to put her hands on money. Paul is certainly not a saint, I think that he can easily have been unfaithful to her, but if the allegations are true, why didn't Heather move before? Why didn't her friends/parents/relatives reported this to police? And most important, WHY DID SHE LEAVE HER DAUGHTER TO PAUL, if he's so violent? What mother would leave her sons to a man like the one Heather described? I don't think she couldn't go away before, she's not a poor homeless women that doesn't know what to do without her husband.
Another thing...if my Bf were rich but treated me like that...well, he could keep his fu***ing money. Don't need his charity.
 
#38
The same can be said for Denise Richards. Why isn't she blamed for not getting away from Charlie Sheen before having two babies in a year with the guy? I don't get the double standard. The knives are out for Heather, blaming HER for whatever alleged abuse took place, including making slurs about her handicap and calling her a LIAR, but other celebs get sympathy. I don't get it.
 
#39
Roo said:
The same can be said for Denise Richards. Why isn't she blamed for not getting away from Charlie Sheen before having two babies in a year with the guy? I don't get the double standard. The knives are out for Heather, blaming HER for whatever alleged abuse took place, including making slurs about her handicap and calling her a LIAR, but other celebs get sympathy. I don't get it.
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I am not blaming either one - no double standard here. I think what I said in reference to Heather is that the timing is suspect especially if she is the one who leaked the information. That doesn't appear to be the actions of someone who was abused. The women I have known that were abused were extremely secretive about it and we didn't know about it until years after the divorce. As for Denise, I don't blame her for not leaving, maybe she thought she could change him or convinced herself that the things she heard about him weren't true. If that is the case, then she is partly responsible for her situation. Whatever the issue, its not about blame for either Heather or Denise.
 
#40
Roo said:
The same can be said for Denise Richards. Why isn't she blamed for not getting away from Charlie Sheen before having two babies in a year with the guy? I don't get the double standard. The knives are out for Heather, blaming HER for whatever alleged abuse took place, including making slurs about her handicap and calling her a LIAR, but other celebs get sympathy. I don't get it.
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I don't know about Denise Richards (here in Italy she doesn't make much rumors as Paul does). Ok, I will read the allegations. i'm not saying that Denise is right and Heather is wrong, but I don't want to say that they're both right just because they are women and I'm a women. (ok, it wasn't clear, I will try to explain). Roo, when a women reports an abuse, it's not always true and she's not always right, and I don't want to give my support to a woman only because I'm a woman too and I must sympathise with her.
 
#41
Roo said:
What, exactly, is a "handicapped self"? Um, what does that mean?

And yes, Denise alleged physical abuse and threats. There is a link in my previous post and you can go there and read about it in her court papers.
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Well it means that I feel she is exploiting her handicap by saying that there apparently are no decent human beings left in the world. I refuse to believe that not one person helped her board that plane or that everyone stood by & watched her crawling to the car dragging her wheelchair, crutches & belongings.
Denise claimed threats, emotional abuse & she had tapes of the threats & emotionally abusive calls Charlie made to her, as well as witnesses to the one shove she referred to in her divorce petition. Theirs is a whole different story & there was a reason Charlie settled so quickly, Denise is mostly being vilified because she is dating Sambora, not for making outragious claims w/o any supporting evidence.

Do not infer that I am denigrating her disability, as I am not.
 
#42
I did not slur her handicap!
I am trying to point out that I feel her claims are incredibly outragius as to "crawling" up the airplane steps & out of her mansion.



I have not read any post here that I believe blames her for the abuse she claims to have suffered or one that says if it happened it is OK because they feel she is a witch.
 
#44
taco said:
I did not slur her handicap!
I am trying to point out that I feel her claims are incredibly outragius as to "crawling" up the airplane steps & out of her mansion.
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Re-read what you wrote. I'm not handicapped and I was offended. Imagine how a handicapped member of this forum would feel if they read that statement??
 
#45
That is the game Mills is playing, my comment reflects that.

I have read all the posts & am not seeing the blaming & the excusing abuse to someone who is disliked that you are seeing. I am sorry if you are offended, but I am not getting that feeling from the posts as I read them.
 
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