I just got the red from NAP. I initially ordered them tts 38.5 even though they said to size up. They were too big. I sent them back and exchanged for the 38 half size down which fit fine. I got a pair of the black from last season a few weeks prior in a 38 as well. The red feel a tad smaller than the black but not by much. I would suggest that you size down.I'm so confused! The fall/winter ones are, according to NAP small to size now or according to saks TTS - as opposed to big to size. Anyone have the very newest release that can advise?