Yay! My 04 Marron city arrived just now! and she is beautiful! The color of cedar! Its a wonderful complement to my ink! I love the color combos- its raining now so I cant take pics, but I'll have a photoshoot if it dries up soon! Its such a RED brown color! Its more brown than say, the grenat or bordeaux, but it is definetly in the same family! I was really surprised how much red undertone there was. and the leather... THE LEATHER... it totally collapses as opposed to my ink city (which i thought was so soft and floppy) but this bag... its like made of fabric. There is no structure to the structure. super floppy and squishy. it needs no apple lotion at all! the leather on the 06 apple lotioned is super soft and silky, thicker and more dense while the 04 unlotioned is fluffy almost- so light and airy and S-O-F-T! I'll have to take pics to compare them. Also the 04 is shinier than the 06 post-lotion- there is a thin glaze (unlike the 05 glazed donut look though) it just seems to have a thin film of shine that doesnt add any thickness or support... even on the lotioned and massaged ink city there is a lot more support from the leather and the making in general. the bottom sits very flat and even on the 06 ink in comparison to the 04, which just sags and makes for a super-slouchy look.