I've recently come to the realisation I have a thing for clemence. I like the softness and slight slouch, a kinda worn-in look, without actually being worn n torn. Kwim? Anyone else out there with an affinity for this leather? The problem is, I wouldn't want a bag that in time will slouch to the ground in a heap. Do clemence owners find this? Particularly those of you with 35cm Birkins? I don't mind semi-slouch but it'll be hard for me to accept floppy. Also, those of you with gold clemence bags, esp 35cm Birkins, I would very much appreciate pics if you have them. Do you find the gold a bit dark? And how does it compare to gold togo and gold swift, for eg? I saw gold swift in the store and it was surprisingly a lot darker than I had imagined. I have gold togo on one side of a belt so I know what that's like. But I don't know or can't remember if I've seen gold in clemence IRL.