Both from Italy~ my wallet and purse, both of my peices were prior to 2007. My real question is this, how do we know that now they don't outsource their RAW materials from China and just bring it back to Italy to stamp MADE IN ITALY in the newer pieces? China must be getting their AAAAA+++ replica materials from somewhere, right? Just like with other brand names? *cough*LV*cough*