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Just an FYI, there are strict quarantine requirements in place in Canada. Anyone arriving in Canada must quarantine for 14-days. Enforcement and monitoring varies, but it does seem to be becoming more of an issue, with fines being imposed for non-compliance. The 14 day quarantine requirement can also extend to anyone travelling between provinces (particularly in the Maritimes).

Personally, I’m 100% supportive of enforcing mandatory quarantine requirements for anyone arriving in Canada (and the Maritimes quarantine), given the situation we’re in. But, I worry that the longer this goes on that it will lead to xenophobia (or increase / further entrench feelings of xenophobia that already exist).
Thanks for making me aware...14-days is a bit much for those of us who are planning short trips.
 
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This is kind of hokey. I love to travel it is my life blood. I sit outside every morning and I have an app that tells me what plane is going over my house and where they came from and are going. Some of them I look up the seat maps on the plane and imagine what every one is doing at the point they are flying over. I am consistently seeing that the flight's seat map is sooooo empty. Most flights are almost 75% empty. Right now being on the plane doesn't scare me. It's the not knowing a particular areas quarantine rules, restaurant hours, local laws that make me hesitate to travel. I don't want to have to figure all that out.
 
It depends what you define as "travel"; I live in OK and will be going to TX in a couple weeks to scatter ashes. Due to family issues I have been to TX a couple times already since March.
 
This is kind of hokey. I love to travel it is my life blood. I sit outside every morning and I have an app that tells me what plane is going over my house and where they came from and are going. Some of them I look up the seat maps on the plane and imagine what every one is doing at the point they are flying over. I am consistently seeing that the flight's seat map is sooooo empty. Most flights are almost 75% empty. Right now being on the plane doesn't scare me. It's the not knowing a particular areas quarantine rules, restaurant hours, local laws that make me hesitate to travel. I don't want to have to figure all that out.

What app is this??
 
Just an FYI, there are strict quarantine requirements in place in Canada. Anyone arriving in Canada must quarantine for 14-days. Enforcement and monitoring varies, but it does seem to be becoming more of an issue, with fines being imposed for non-compliance. The 14 day quarantine requirement can also extend to anyone travelling between provinces (particularly in the Maritimes).

Personally, I’m 100% supportive of enforcing mandatory quarantine requirements for anyone arriving in Canada (and the Maritimes quarantine), given the situation we’re in. But, I worry that the longer this goes on that it will lead to xenophobia (or increase / further entrench feelings of xenophobia that already exist).

As an immigrant in Canada it's been very clear to me from day one that there is already extreme xenophobia in this country, and it's getting worse with every day that goes by during this pandemic.
 
For those of us who are not Canadian, could you explain the context. Thanks

I don't want to get into it too much because I really don't want to get into an argument over how I feel, but the judgement and prejudice that Canadians have towards people of other countries, especially the US, is unreal. Someone said to me years ago that the Canadian identity is basically how they feel superior to others and it's so true. With Canada being one of the few countries still completely closed to all other countries, this attitude is getting much worse. Even last night our server in the restaurant we were at was saying how it's so great that we're still closed to any other country because no other country is as great as Canada and we should keep it that way forever. I'm also hearing comments like this coming from people who I least expected to have this attitude. As someone who lives to travel and is not a Canadian all I can do is shake my head.
 
I don't want to get into it too much because I really don't want to get into an argument over how I feel, but the judgement and prejudice that Canadians have towards people of other countries, especially the US, is unreal. Someone said to me years ago that the Canadian identity is basically how they feel superior to others and it's so true. With Canada being one of the few countries still completely closed to all other countries, this attitude is getting much worse. Even last night our server in the restaurant we were at was saying how it's so great that we're still closed to any other country because no other country is as great as Canada and we should keep it that way forever. I'm also hearing comments like this coming from people who I least expected to have this attitude. As someone who lives to travel and is not a Canadian all I can do is shake my head.
Funny, as a traveler I would have never guessed it. I have had a few weird conversation regarding their French and mine but would have never guessed they had a superiority attitude.
They are so polite and welcoming in general and their immigration/ refugees policy being so fair, it is funny that they would feel that way.
In Europe, the Dutch have the same reputation. They feel that they also know better.
I wonder if it is a result of being next to much bigger and belligerent countries..
 
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I don't want to get into it too much because I really don't want to get into an argument over how I feel, but the judgement and prejudice that Canadians have towards people of other countries, especially the US, is unreal. Someone said to me years ago that the Canadian identity is basically how they feel superior to others and it's so true. With Canada being one of the few countries still completely closed to all other countries, this attitude is getting much worse. Even last night our server in the restaurant we were at was saying how it's so great that we're still closed to any other country because no other country is as great as Canada and we should keep it that way forever. I'm also hearing comments like this coming from people who I least expected to have this attitude. As someone who lives to travel and is not a Canadian all I can do is shake my head.
There are flights arriving in Canada every single day from the US, India, Ethiopia, China, Mexico, Paris, Switzerland, Portugal, Qatar, England, Morocco, Turkey, Germany...
How is Canada "closed" to all other countries?
Americans have been shoving down our throats for years how great they are, I think it's okay for Canadians to (respectfully) toot their own horn. I happen to think Canada is pretty f*cking awesome and thank my lucky stars I don't live in the US.
However, I can only speak as someone from BC - it might be different in your province :flowers:
 
There are flights arriving in Canada every single day from the US, India, Ethiopia, China, Mexico, Paris, Switzerland, Portugal, Qatar, England, Morocco, Turkey, Germany...
How is Canada "closed" to all other countries?
Americans have been shoving down our throats for years how great they are, I think it's okay for Canadians to (respectfully) toot their own horn. I happen to think Canada is pretty f*cking awesome and thank my lucky stars I don't live in the US.
However, I can only speak as someone from BC - it might be different in your province :flowers:
^^^ THIS :drinks:
 
Funny, as a traveler I would have never guessed it. I have had a few weird conversation regarding their French and mine but would have never guessed they had a superiority attitude.
They are so polite and welcoming in general and their immigration/ refugees policy being so fair, it is funny that they would feel that way.
In Europe, the Dutch have the same reputation. They feel that they also know better.
I wonder if it is a result of being next to much bigger and belligerent countries..

I'm in AB and I have never hated anything more, but my husband's job and ridiculous income (not O&G related) has us stuck here for a long time :sick: Being proud of where you live and expressing how great you believe you are is great, I just feel that it becomes distasteful and tacky when done in such a passive aggressive "we're better than x" way. I have lived in Canada for 20ish years and traveled and lived all over the world and have only experienced this here.

As for being closed, CBSA is vetting people at the border making sure they are not here for non-essential travel and the 14 day quarantine is for every single person who is entering Canada regardless of where they are coming from. This is closing the country to the rest of the world. Many, many other countries have opened their borders to international travelers and welcoming people from Canada, but Canada refuses to do the same. The CDC has removed the recommendation of the 14 day quarantine, yet Canada has not. The ramifications of these decisions are huge.

I work for a major global corporation and our Canada locations are suffering due to the current border issues. One example of this is we have a severe shortage of specialists in Canada and there are literally not enough licensed people who can do the job of what the majority of our business is so we have to get specialists from all over the world, especially US, UK and Australia. Even though all of the paperwork is in hand and they have jobs lined up here, they are not allowed to enter Canada. Even if they provide a negative test and quarantine, they are not allowing them in. Our business has not been impacted by the pandemic so those specialists are desperately needed in Canada and we have lost over 100 of them since March. The process of hiring these specialists takes years and it's all been for nothing.

The continual closing of the borders and not opening Canada (with reasonable restrictions of course) is extremely short sighted.
 
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