There has been so much talk about the Outdoor Ligne Hobo on a few threads I decided to try to put to rest all the questions. Chanel made the Outdoor Ligne Hobo (also called Messenger) in two sizes. The smaller size has the CC zipper pull and is 15" across: The larger size has a leather zipper pull and is 17" across. Here is a pic of the larger one along side the Modern Chain Tote: It has a cell phone pocket and another open pocket on one side. You can see my iPod and Sensa pen in there. And a zipper pocket on the other side. Here are some pics of what is in my bag: Everything pictured in here was in that large hobo bag: Fendi Sneakers (we have snow here!), Starbucks water bottle, LV accessory bag, LV Credit Card case, iPod in Chanel iPod holder, Forbes magazine, LV white epi cles (Gawd, I need a new color), BV zip wallet, cell phone (DH took iPhone and I need to get one!), Gucci gloves (did I say it is cold here!), Sensa Pen, Hewett Packard calculator (I'm a geek). And also, after having looked at this pic I'm a label whore!