way more interest in premier designers these days

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I've noticed the Hermes forum is very active, also chanel and of course LV.
Seems the only non-premiere line that competes in level of interest is Coach. I remember when brands like RM and Kooba had a lot more activity than now.
Don't know what changed. Maybe partly that some of the brands don't have they quality they used to have. It can't be that everyone here is wealthier than a few years ago?
 
In times of instagram, youtube and other social networks and platforms, luxury and the ability to afford luxury seems to be widely spread which might lead to the fact, that an uncertain amount of persons will jump on that wagoon, too, and will feel the urge to keep up with the Jones (do you say Jones? Not sure here). Marketing always worked that way- show the average person an obviousyl happy, healthy, perfect life living role model and it will make this person willing to spend big bucks to feel the same way and to live the same life - even harder if the role model is "reachable" and not a super star - which, as we know won't work nor make sense at all, but alas.
Plus: increasing prices and the intel on those prices might make seem those pricing less shocking. I remember seeing an add of an LV mulitcolor Speedy back then, before we had the currency-change. It was about 800 DM (which is around 400 USD now). Though I earned good money, that price seemed shockingly high and I couldn't even wrap my head around spending more than my rent on a bag (though I am still sad that I didn't buy it). Today it doesn't seem to be a big deal to spend that money, first as prices have increased that much overall and second as you see ( or THINK to see) so many people, beeing able to afford that money in a heartbeat. That validates these amounts.
And, most surely brands do pay influencers, hell, we even had a few ICOs on paying methods for influencers. And here one thing lead to another- having desired content attracts followers who are willing to spend their money, who are also influencing others by carrying those brands while walking on streets who will increase the request for other chanels to do unboxings, OOTD and so on. And here it goes, the ciculus vitiosus.
I, personally couldn't care less about the hype that broke loose. I personally do care about the hype that is bubbling actually right now when it comes to real estate as the same mechanism apply. As a landlord I am terrified what's happening right now, but this is another story. And at the end of the day: except for bags and real estate, there was aways a good that was highly sought after and by any means only available for very few people. I grew up with the rule that a car mustn't cost more that 1/4 of your yearly income, has to be paid cahs except you are running a business, yet I see Porsche, BMW, Merzedes, Audi everywhere I go or stand, most of them brand new.
Nobody having their mind together would ever go into debt to borrow a car, albeit people do. Nobody would pay over a million Euros for a (let me try to translate) "house in the middle in the pampas" while having an average yearly income (that is around 24.000 Euros net over here pp), yet people do. End of story: People tend to invest not very wisely, tend to act stupid and mostly if there is a keeping up with the Jones- moment involved. Luxury industry was just smart enough to play that card and found dozends of willingly role-models posting their perfect lives on instagram facebook and Co. The bill, on the other hand, is on the average customer who thinks it might be a good idea to go into debt for: a bag, a car or a house (well, that house thing is another story, the very least will be able to pay real estate cash. But 120 % financing up to the age of 80... well... This is how a crisis starts. But that's another story).
 
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In times of instagram, youtube and other social networks and platforms, luxury and the ability to afford luxury seems to be widely spread which might lead to the fact, that an uncertain amount of persons will jump on that wagoon, too, and will feel the urge to keep up with the Jones (do you say Jones? Not sure here). Marketing always worked that way- show the average person an obviousyl happy, healthy, perfect life living role model and it will make this person willing to spend big bucks to feel the same way and to live the same life - even harder if the role model is "reachable" and not a super star - which, as we know won't work nor make sense at all, but alas.
Plus: increasing prices and the intel on those prices might make seem those pricing less shocking. I remember seeing an add of an LV mulitcolor Speedy back then, before we had the currency-change. It was about 800 DM (which is around 400 USD now). Though I earned good money, that price seemed shockingly high and I couldn't even wrap my head around spending more than my rent on a bag (though I am still sad that I didn't buy it). Today it doesn't seem to be a big deal to spend that money, first as prices have increased that much overall and second as you see ( or THINK to see) so many people, beeing able to afford that money in a heartbeat. That validates these amounts.
And, most surely brands do pay influencers, hell, we even had a few ICOs on paying methods for influencers. And here one thing lead to another- having desired content attracts followers who are willing to spend their money, who are also influencing others by carrying those brands while walking on streets who will increase the request for other chanels to do unboxings, OOTD and so on. And here it goes, the ciculus vitiosus.
I, personally couldn't care less about the hype that broke loose. I personally do care about the hype that is bubbling actually right now when it comes to real estate as the same mechanism apply. As a landlord I am terrified what's happening right now, but this is another story. And at the end of the day: except for bags and real estate, there was aways a good that was highly sought after and by any means only available for very few people. I grew up with the rule that a car mustn't cost more that 1/4 of your yearly income, has to be paid cahs except you are running a business, yet I see Porsche, BMW, Merzedes, Audi everywhere I go or stand, most of them brand new.
Nobody having their mind together would ever go into debt to borrow a car, albeit people do. Nobody would pay over a million Euros for a (let me try to translate) "house in the middle in the pampas" while having an average yearly income (that is around 24.000 Euros net over here pp), yet people do. End of story: People tend to invest not very wisely, tend to act stupid and mostly if there is a keeping up with the Jones- moment involved. Luxury industry was just smart enough to play that card and found dozends of willingly role-models posting their perfect lives on instagram facebook and Co. The bill, on the other hand, is on the average customer who thinks it might be a good idea to go into debt for: a bag, a car or a house (well, that house thing is another story, the very least will be able to pay real estate cash. But 120 % financing up to the age of 80... well... This is how a crisis starts. But that's another story).
you make many interesting points....here in the US it was always very common for people to take out a loan for a new car. But now people are leasing instead, making them able to drive something more luxurious as long as they can make that monthly payment.
Yes, social media has created a lot of negative things IMO. As much as we all enjoy access to the Internet, the social media thing and all the people who are famous for being famous is not good IMO.
Since there are millions of people here on tpf (or millions of posts anyway) talking about Hermes and these bags cost thousands, I have to think some of these people should not be spending their money on such expensive bags. But I don't know who they are so I'm speculating.
 
you make many interesting points....here in the US it was always very common for people to take out a loan for a new car. But now people are leasing instead, making them able to drive something more luxurious as long as they can make that monthly payment.
Yes, social media has created a lot of negative things IMO. As much as we all enjoy access to the Internet, the social media thing and all the people who are famous for being famous is not good IMO.
Since there are millions of people here on tpf (or millions of posts anyway) talking about Hermes and these bags cost thousands, I have to think some of these people should not be spending their money on such expensive bags. But I don't know who they are so I'm speculating.

I don't know how it is on other forums but the H forum is perhaps the only way of getting inside info at any time. It's also like a club.

1. Bags and other items at H are scarce, people who have more info can consider and make their choices earlier, perhaps request these things.

2. Lots of people also buy on the preloved market and look for info and reviews in that market. Many (including myself) prefer some discontinued lines/leathers so occasionally it'll the only option. Info is everything.

3. Not everyone is buying all the time. Sometimes we just have fun with the things we have. How to style them, how to repurpose them, how to maintain them, being better informed about them.

4. A huge part of the H forum is non-bags. Scarves, slgs, china, fragrance, RTW etc they all have different followers and also people who like a little of everything.

Gucci is different. As the brand has become for popular (so we're told by instas everywhere and Kering figures) it has not translated into a busier forum. Gucci shoe ladies and getns seem to post in the shoe forum and without the discount sales the whole 'bargain Gucci' has gone which used to be a big thing. The outlets are still there but... Gucci resale has gone up but not to the Chanel/H level and people seem very keen on the whole 'investment' part of owning a handbag. Gucci still make some fine things but not always classics. TPF members like their bags to be classics because they don't like them to date. Gucci does classics again and again but they rest things regularly.

I've sold very few designer handbags so I can't relate but if you look at the resale sites it's a similar, same name roster on those, mostly Chanel, Hermes and LV.

There are so many bag options these days, premier and big name contemporary are mostly wildly overpriced and those prices and reps not always commensurate with quality, people are seeking out quality alternatives whether they be Delvaux or Polene. These alternatives seem to be more...spread out in price, styles and geographically.
 
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Most of the trendy popular contemporary designers are newer and they tend not to get their own sub-forums until they become well-established. They often pop-up as a thread in this sub-forum, get a few pages of thread, then go quiet as their popularity fades away.

On the other side of the spectrum, the monoliths of purses are LV and Coach. They release multiple items every month, plus have their runway shows, with member wanting to get as much information as possible, discuss the releases, and share purchases.

Hermes and Chanel have the added factor of scarcity. As some of the other major names in the industry, it's hard to find information on items and their availability. The information shared here is invaluable.
 
I think balenciaga sees quite a bit of activity.

But the thing with LV, Chanel and Hermès - discussions there sometimes veer into socioeconomic themes, which makes for more interesting and heated discussions....and brings more participants.
yes Bal is next most discussed
and they are also expensive tho not in the realm of Hermes
 
Interesting thread!

I spend more of my time in the Chanel forum because it's the first forum I started visiting when I first signed up on TPF and have grown familiar with it.

I must say I'm not in love with any of the brands in the Contemporary forum... I used to like Coach a lot, but was underwhelmed with the quality of a leather bag that I purchased 10 years ago and ended up returning. Since then I haven't redeveloped any interest in Coach. Kate Spade is cute, but they come up with so many new designs (IMO) that it's hard to keep track of what's going on and I don't have the time to keep up with these changes.

I do like the brands that are discussed on this Handbags and Purses forum instead (e.g. MZ Wallace, Loewe), and tend to visit this forum next most frequently after Chanel.
 
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I started in the Mansur Gavriel forum a few years back when it was scarce and the forum helped me locate bags I couldn’t otherwise find.

When I got my first Chanel, I regretted not reading up more in the forum first as it would definitely have helped me avoid newbie mistakes. I joined the Chanel forum to share my excitement as my collection grew and I learned so much along the way. I still get more intel than my SAs in my local stores which is amusing.

Now I’m tentatively moving into H but even though I have only 2 bags and a handful of scarves and bracelets, I find I still know more than a few of my friends who are longtime fans with large collections.

I agree that tpf normalises the luxury buying experience and certainly helps validate purchases that are not always wise. But the flip side is tpf insider info is invaluable and for others, it really helps minimise buying regrets.
 
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