Video record the surgery to prevent shadow doctors?

wxa1

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Wonder if the clinics would allow you to video record your entire surgery procedure with your own device so that you can review it and make sure there's no shadow doctor/funny business?
Has anyone tried requesting for this?
 
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opensesame

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Wonder if the clinics would allow you to video record your entire surgery procedure with your own device so that you can review it and make sure there's no shadow doctor/funny business?
Has anyone tried requesting for this?
I’m wondering about this too. I think I will request a video.
 

ammonseninga

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I'm not sure if you can use your own device but from what I know , yes they can and have to do it once you requested it . but once you see the video they'll delete it . this is what I heard
 

Mazikeen

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How will you tell the doctors apart with face masks on? Better to find a small clinic where only one doctor specialises in the procedure you want. That way you can be sure that no shadow doctor is operating on you. Avoid clinics with a whole army of doctors like ID, GNG.
 

wxa1

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How will you tell the doctors apart with face masks on? Better to find a small clinic where only one doctor specialises in the procedure you want. That way you can be sure that no shadow doctor is operating on you. Avoid clinics with a whole army of doctors like ID, GNG.
Maybe can tell from the body shape, height etc? Also at the start of the surgery you can talk to them to confirm their identity first, and they shouldn't need to walk out of the surgery room in the first 1-2 hours at least?
 

Mazikeen

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Maybe can tell from the body shape, height etc? Also at the start of the surgery you can talk to them to confirm their identity first, and they shouldn't need to walk out of the surgery room in the first 1-2 hours at least?
This would only work if the doctor has a distinctive appearance e.g taller than average. When I was in Seoul I visited ID out of curiosity and I kid you not most of the male doctors looked like BTS clones. I couldn`t tell them apart. If you are under GA how will you make sure that the doctor doesn`t leave the surgery room? Personally I wouldn`t risk it but if you have contingencies that you think could work then you can try it out.
 
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wxa1

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This would only work if the doctor has a distinctive appearance e.g taller than average. When I was in Seoul I visited ID out of curiosity and I kid you not most of the male doctors looked like BTS clones. I couldn`t tell them apart. If you are under GA how will you make sure that the doctor doesn`t leave the surgery room? Personally I wouldn`t risk it but if you have contingencies that you think could work then you can try it out.
Maybe you could draft a contract that mandates that the doctor will not leave the room during the surgery (at least for the first 1-2 hours), and verify that it's complied with the video footage? I believe shadow doctor practice is illegal so if you ensure that you have the evidence they will not attempt it?
 

Mazikeen

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Maybe you could draft a contract that mandates that the doctor will not leave the room during the surgery (at least for the first 1-2 hours), and verify that it's complied with the video footage? I believe shadow doctor practice is illegal so if you ensure that you have the evidence they will not attempt it?
Unfortunately in Korea contracts don't mean much. These clinics are protected by the govt. There have been cases where patients have died e.g Grand Plastic and nothing happened not even a suspension so I don't see how a contract will deter them. Also remember these clinics have deep pockets and top legal teams, they can manipulate evidence and you'll have no way of proving it. the only way this could work is if you have someone you trust to accompany you into surgery and remain at your side for the duration. Or you can have the surgery under sedation.
 
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Unfortunately in Korea contracts don't mean much. These clinics are protected by the govt. There have been cases where patients have died e.g Grand Plastic and nothing happened not even a suspension so I don't see how a contract will deter them. Also remember these clinics have deep pockets and top legal teams, they can manipulate evidence and you'll have no way of proving it. the only way this could work is if you have someone you trust to accompany you into surgery and remain at your side for the duration. Or you can have the surgery under sedation.
wow i can feel grudge from your comments
did something happened? My wife did Breast Surgery in Korea and the result were splendid
 

MissOrange

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@Mazikeen is right. At Girin, Machimpyo, Namu etc. they only have one doctor ie for facial contouring so no risk of a swap. At larger teaching hospitals, foreigners may be used for training a young surgeon or given to a shadow doctor. They know foreigners will fly home so cannot stay to find a lawyer and sue. Korea can be a minefield. Make sure the smaller clinic has an anaesthetist as some clinics may not even have one and the doctor does the iv sedation himself! That said larger hospitals have anaesthetists and can intubate when things go wrong but how does one guarantee getting the top surgeon and not one of his trainees or shadows?

There have been a spate of deaths in Korea lately, the last one a Hong Kong heiress going for breast FT with liposuction in January.

I asked DA for cctv footage suspecting I had got a shadow. At first they said yes we can get you, then they said no its confidential, then they said ok of the corridor then, then they said not possible. Regen said yes pay extra and we can video record it for you. But I never went ahead so I don't know if they would or not.
 

opensesame

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@Mazikeen is right. At Girin, Machimpyo, Namu etc. they only have one doctor ie for facial contouring so no risk of a swap. At larger teaching hospitals, foreigners may be used for training a young surgeon or given to a shadow doctor. They know foreigners will fly home so cannot stay to find a lawyer and sue. Korea can be a minefield. Make sure the smaller clinic has an anaesthetist as some clinics may not even have one and the doctor does the iv sedation himself! That said larger hospitals have anaesthetists and can intubate when things go wrong but how does one guarantee getting the top surgeon and not one of his trainees or shadows?

There have been a spate of deaths in Korea lately, the last one a Hong Kong heiress going for breast FT with liposuction in January.

I asked DA for cctv footage suspecting I had got a shadow. At first they said yes we can get you, then they said no its confidential, then they said ok of the corridor then, then they said not possible. Regen said yes pay extra and we can video record it for you. But I never went ahead so I don't know if they would or not.
WOW. It seems so difficult to get video recordings. The fact that they are so reluctant to film makes me feel extremely worried...Maybe I need to find a friend to stay with me in the surgery room during the operation.
 

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Hello, i am concern about this issue too. Is it possible if they allow your friend or family stay by your side during surgery process?