it is an orangy red. But I would still call it more red than orange. It is a warmer shade??? brighter than the Rouge VIF. Rouge VIF is more a real red. IMO. I have a first i can post pictures for comparison if you like later tonight
okay here is my vermillion first. I tried to do a close up and I don't know if it worked. Also, these are indoors with a flash. They are more accurate than the outside light which made it look too orange.