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vyvy2

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Hi everyone,
Previously Ive been posting about this piece once, but now I have another concern that I want to ask, I just wondering that are those white little dots inside the diamond called inclusions? And there were something at the edge of the diamond looks like it could be scratches or is it just inclusions?
I heard that diamond is really hard material so what can really scratches it?
Please don’t take this serious I’m just confused and I have no one to ask so I posted here, I really want your answers to this 😄thank you!
 

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Hi everyone,
Previously Ive been posting about this piece once, but now I have another concern that I want to ask, I just wondering that are those white little dots inside the diamond called inclusions? And there were something at the edge of the diamond looks like it could be scratches or is it just inclusions?
I heard that diamond is really hard material so what can really scratches it?
Please don’t take this serious I’m just confused and I have no one to ask so I posted here, I really want your answers to this 😄thank you!
And if I reselling it will it lose its value?
 
It’s probably dirt, dust. It is very hard to clean. I believe that VCA uses at least VS1 if not VVS. You will not be able to see an inclusion with VVS stones, especially not on these tiny melee. And obstruction from the metal setting. If you were to look at the diamond outside of the setting it is probably very clean, meaning very little visible inclusion without at least a 10x loupe. I’d bet on a 30x.

And yes any jewelry loses value the minute it leaves the store. It’s like buying a car. Jewelry does not retain value unless you have highly collectible pieces, like argyle pink diamonds or other pieces with historical significance.

And to be clear it would not lose value because you don’t have a flawless diamond but because jewelry inherently is a terrible investment. We jewelry lovers buy them because we like shiny sparkly things.
 
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It’s probably dirt, dust. It is very hard to clean. I believe that VCA uses at least VS1 if not VVS. You will not be able to see an inclusion with VVS stones, especially not on these tiny melee. And obstruction from the metal setting. If you were to look at the diamond outside of the setting it is probably very clean, meaning very little visible inclusion without at least a 10x loupe. I’d bet on a 30x.

And yes any jewelry loses value the minute it leaves the store. It’s like buying a car. Jewelry does not retain value unless you have highly collectible pieces, like argyle pink diamonds or other pieces with historical significance.

And to be clear it would not lose value because you don’t have a flawless diamond but because jewelry inherently is a terrible investment. We jewelry lovers buy them because we like shiny sparkly things.
Thank you so much for your explanation! Just to be clear this was under an 10x loupe. I cleaned it carefully before taking the picture, in real life the edges looks like a rough layer, that’s why I wonder that what could scratch the diamond during the process of production.
 
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Thank you so much for your explanation! Just to be clear this was under an 10x loupe. I cleaned it carefully before taking the picture, in real life the edges looks like a rough layer, that’s why I wonder that what could scratch the diamond during the process of production.

I’m still quite confident that VCA does not use such included diamonds. It could be dirt trapped between a prong and the diamond and the dirt reflecting off the facets. Try using an ultrasonic and a steam cleaner. Diamonds embedded in such metal heavy settings are really hard to clean.
 
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