Well, I went to Stanford (not my normal store) to look at the Houston and Brentwood Vernis in framboise, since they had both and I could see them side by side. Man it's alot of pink! As I was debating and looking at them in the mirror, and saying out loud...I don't know it's a lot of pink. I had the nicest SA, I wished I would have remembered to ask her name! Anyway, I think she gave me some good advice...As she was eyening my stuffed antigua, I had pretty much dumped on the floor, she said, "are you sure you want vernis? It is not a great winter bag, and it is our most 'fragile' material"....I laughed out loud...she was being so PC, but getting her point across...I looked down at used and abused antigua and said, "you're probably right"