No joking around from me right now.
RMcC..thank you. I love the history of anything.
RMcC...now I know that the color that you and I are craving are slightly different. Mine has a bit more olive/yellow and less of a blue cast (see my avatar). My neighbor just brought home a brand spanking new Jag in BRG.
But when I talk about bottle green..I know exactly what color I want..although every site I go to defines/describes/depicts it differently. Hence my posting of the actual objects of my desire and questions..and then I try to toddle somewhere where I can fondle and ogle to my hearts content.
http://www.december.com/html/spec/color2.html just to show you where I'm at..somewhere in the range of first column: romaine lettuce #3B5323,darkgreen #2F4F2F, noble fir #476A34
second column...limerind#324F17, wet moss #3D5229, douglas fir #3F602B...ok..you catch my drift here don't y'all.
But in the case of this pallette..many of the colors have little to do with what they are named after..so...
Stormy.. I'm too lazy for smiliemoticons again..so imagine a great big THANK YOU thingie..dancing for joy blowing kisses!
I often took/take a box of crayolas with me if I needed a reference. Or embroidery/needlepoint thread from DMC.OMGoodness..
Stormy...I can't wait to get my chart so we can be on the same page...apropos of that...
Stormy..that chart is sheer genious! Is that company legit to order it from or do you have a different preference? I love the fact that the purchase price is so reasonable. This way we will all be on the same page when we pinpoint color descriptions.
BTW when I was in the wholesale end of design/conceptualizing/protype creation for a major jewlery company..and later on in a millinery/accessory company ...in "the biz" we used (and they still use) the Pantone color charts..but they are prohibitively expensive to purchase although I see the price has come down a bit.
At this point "fashionistas" and arbeiters of "must have colors" often buy Pantone pallettes by season.
For those of you who wonder why the color pallete for most designers appears to be almost identical every season...this is how they come to their decisions.(Server is busy so I cached it..)
http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache...+pantone+color+chart&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)
Here's an example of how it works for some wholesalers/retailers in the jewelry business(I'm using a reference for S/S 2010 and gems)
http://www.firemountaingems.com/tre...+chart&s_kwcid=pantone color chart|2849307770
However, designers like HH sometimes give the color they are using a "fanstasy" name to set the mood or fit in with the overall design concept or theme. What gets confusing is that one company's indigo blue or ruby red is not the same as another's so problems arise such as trying to figure out what the color really looks like...or mixing and matching pieces becomes problematic. I mean..come on bright red..brite red..brite blue..etc..that might ever help me understand what I am ordering.
So at this point, I ask for a swatch or a lookbook if I can't see the item IRL if it is at all possible..not to mention the issue of dye lots..which is a whole 'nother subcategory IMHO. I did this before I ordered my first Ignes because the colors on their website looked nothing like the IRL modeling shots and reveals. I have a major problem with many of HH's photos..I know I know..my skills suck..but my eye is good...HH's colors and photos of their line often look "cartoony" or washed out..nothing like most of your gorgeous shots..is there too much light exposure?
Sooo..most of the time HH is pretty good about naming colors. What got a bit confusing to me this past season is when the recycled Blueberry. I hated the A/W 2008 BB..perhaps because of the leather or the dye..I liked the A/S 2009 Blueberry quite a bit more..even though I am usually not a fan of certain blues. Calling something Grey Zeus..when Crystalized Grey might be better..but even then this still gives us nothing to go by in terms of "is it a blue grey, green grey, tone, shade, saturation, texture???"
Hence the great.."what color is this leather?" debate/discussion here and on other forums. So thanks
RM and
Stormy..I take no credit for starting this thread other than just being tired!
BTW..in the course of my research over the years I came across this intriguing condition..there is an neuroscienctific anomoly, synesthesia..meaning "joined perception". Not going into lecture mode...so this is the simplest site to explain it.
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/syne.html
Some people experience music, or see things such as peoples' names or days of the week in color! I often wonder if the design process would be enhanced or hindered by someone with this conditon.