Someone PLEASE please help direct me to a surgeon who may be able to find out what is going on? I damaged my own face and need to fix it.

Did the ent have anything helpful?
Has the pain eased up at all?
I hope you can find answers
Unfortunately no. She simply said maybe I have TMJ. I asked here well then how the hell could TMJ make the facial fat move so drastically. (I showed her the series of befores and I afters I just posted in my most recent reply to this thread besides this one). She could not answer. She was dumbfounded. Plus her physical examination literally reignited all of the problems 100% again. I have pain, discomfort, and clearly, VERY clearly tissue displacement. At first the displacement was not so bad. Not it really is starting to age my face badly. The third attachment on my last post is me as of today. I used to look 5 plus years younger than my age. Now I look 30 on the dot. Nothing wrong with me being 30 looking thirty, but there IS a problem with some type of underlying issue causing me to visually age so quickly.
 
Unfortunately no. She simply said maybe I have TMJ. I asked here well then how the hell could TMJ make the facial fat move so drastically. (I showed her the series of befores and I afters I just posted in my most recent reply to this thread besides this one). She could not answer. She was dumbfounded. Plus her physical examination literally reignited all of the problems 100% again. I have pain, discomfort, and clearly, VERY clearly tissue displacement. At first the displacement was not so bad. Not it really is starting to age my face badly. The third attachment on my last post is me as of today. I used to look 5 plus years younger than my age. Now I look 30 on the dot. Nothing wrong with me being 30 looking thirty, but there IS a problem with some type of underlying issue causing me to visually age so quickly.

I am a graphic artist and I took your photos and layered them in Photoshop and adjusted the opacity on the top layer. Your face is EXACTLY the same size in each. Even the philtrum spacing. EXACTLY the same. Perhaps there is a 3D factor to all of this that we are not able to capture in a photo? Also, FWIW, my guess was that you were 23-25 years old...so I do NOT think you look 30. You truly are very cute--and yes, I am old enough to be your mom so I am not hitting on you! ;) I would have gone in the direction of a specialist facial plastic surgeon for a consult and not an ENT.
 
Months ago I created a post after a facial injury which injured both sides of my face (mainly the left in terms of the most pain), caused my face to begin sagging. Well, some of the people here said it was difficult to spot. Unforuntately the damage has continued and now is quite easy to see. I clearly would need a lifting procedure to fix this. In fact, the idea of the tissue descending so much in just a few months is unacceptable and I cannot just allow my face to change at this rate. I fel physical discomfort in my face as well so clearly there is an underlying damage going on. I wish I could go back to how I looked before, and I doubt even the best plastic surgeon will be able to give me my old face. But if a surgeon could at least reduce the change by like 50% And suture things in place so they stop moving I think I would be happy. Changes in the after, Both sides are sagging down and face is more bottom heavy clearly when before it was more narrow near the chin and wider on the way up. Kind of like an egg shape. Now it is becoming more boxy. I do not recognize myself and feel this has made me look 5 years older out of nowhere. Truly bizzzarre. It cannot be aging because I can literally move my cheek into a new position if I lightly pull on it. I know that sounds crazy but that ACTUALLY is something I can do. Mind you my initial injury was REALLY painful. No bruising or anything but it felt like I had torn something in my face. Never been the same since..... The before is in the grey top. After is the white top. In each photo my right side is on the left of the photo and vice versa. THe sagging on the right side of my face is the most apparent.... I really hope to find a good surgeon who could at the very least figure out which tissue is damaged and at least do something surgical to STOP this from progressing.

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the pain is mostly discomfort now. I dont even know how the hell im going to convince a doctor that i hurt myself in such a way that my face is literally changing this much so easily. Theyll probably blame aging. So because of that I likely will have to, one day, take a photo of myself at a specific angle, then induce movement in one of my cheeks and take an after (so that my face clearly is different just minutes apart according to my phone camera timestamp. And ask the doctor "can aging do this, where i can induce a new position in my cheek?" And even so, even Rapid aging couldnt make this much of a difference in 4 ****ing months (in reality it is one week shy of 4 months" I dont even know which doctor to go to. Ive been trying to manage this on my own. There is a really good ENT in NYC I was reccomened to go to, but they will try to blame this on TMJ. This is now ****ing TMJ though, Yeah my face is wider but NOT due to the TMJ joint. It is due to tissue descent.
 
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Re: type of Dr. who could address this type of injury I sustained a mouth injury and consulted with two oral and maxillofacial surgeons in Los Angeles. In LA, I recommend Dr. Relle at LACOMS. You might have to be referred to him via your primary dentist or MD.
 
quickly - please note that I am not a medical professional.
- I'm not seeing the level of structural change to which you're referring, but that doesn't mean what you're feeling - and the pain you're experiencing - isn't valid.
- have you had imaging (CT/MRI) done on your maxillofacial region? Having a medical practitioner palpate at you, certified ENT or not, without a clear image of any internal structural concerns, if insufficient IMHO given the length of time you've experienced this. If there's anything to worry about, a CT scan or MRI (more commonly a CT) should shed enlightenment on the issue. I don't wish to alarm you with possible aetiologies (some of the possibilities are esoteric and I don't wish to scare you; that old adage about physicians hearing zebras' hooves when it's really just horses) but taking radiology (not an x-ray) of the cartilage, bone, soft-tissue structures, any acute or chronic damage or displacement of such in your face - which are then reviewed in-depth by a radiologist and then an ENT/facial plastics surgeon - will help immensely in determining if there is anything causing this pain and the symptoms you describe. I am definitely not discounting the fact that you've had this pain for some time now.
I'm not sure where you're located, but if possible and if your insurance covers it, I would personally head to a hospital emergency department as they specialise in traumatic injuries and have all the equipment to immediately get imaging & tests done. I would omit giving a detailed account of why you got into the initial mishap, just that you injured your face X weeks ago, and a clinical list of symptoms since then with an emphasis on the increased pain, as that is worrying.

Storytime: A couple months ago I slipped on a staircase & hit the side of my face. I am very self-conscious about my appearance, but it didn't seem to have impacted my appearance significantly other than a bruise and a bit of swelling. Days later it got worse and there was increasing facial pain (plus a clear drip out of my nostril which I equated to worst-case scenario, CSF drip - thankfully it was not that) and headed to a hospital emergency department 5 days later. They immediately sent me to get CT scans and other tests, and figured out what was going on based on the imaging and some very skilled physicians who deal with trauma injuries every day, then referred me to their trauma ENT/plastics department for follow-up - who reviewed the CT images as well as conducted a thorough examination. Without looking at what was going on inside my face/head, I wouldn't have received a proper diagnosis or treatment.

One wild hypothesis as you've repeatedly mentioning the sudden formation of a 'jowl' (please do not take it badly if I say I can't see it, and I am a self-critical sort) - one time I noticed what seemed like a sudden asymmetrical onset of a 'jowl' (droopy swollen bit) on one side of my jawline. It turned out to be an infected salivary duct (can happen due to dehydration or myriad other causes, including salivary gland calculi - literally a stone blocking the duct in your inner cheek, causing a stoppage, which may lead to eventual infection). 10 days of antibiotics, presto, the 'jowl' was all gone! The physician even said he'd had the same thing once. Other causes of unilateral and bilateral swelling around regions with lymph nodes (eg under neck, 'jowl' region, side of face) can be a reaction to anything from an HSV-1 (cold sore variety) infection affecting a nerve to impetigo (really), which can easily go overlooked and cause swelling as an immune response. Once the underlying condition is treated, the swelling or sagging or however one perceives it subsides as well (and no, it doesn't necessarily have to be the stereotypically 'lumpy' lymph nodes - presentation can be wildly variate). I hope you find the answers you need and help with your pain. Again, I'd strongly suggest getting CT/MRI imaging taken (CT would likely be the first option) so the professionals treating you can have an idea of what is happening internally. Best of luck!

PS - my initial thought was jaw dislocation due to your description but that's usually quite obvious. joint changes should show up on imaging though - it did on mine although minor (and am healed now, mostly)
 
Hello my friend. Thank you I am taking all of what you said to heart. Here is the update. This link contains a "before".... said "before is the third photo in this link. It is me 2 months into this all. The very last picture is me now. Notice how much sagging haas happened especially on one side of the face. Deepening of the mental crease. Lengthening of the philtrum. Dropping of the nose tip/columnella. Changes to my eyes as well (lower lid retraction.). This aint aging unfortunately. Some type f connective tissue disorder. The changes accumulated are insane for just 8 months.....https://imgur.com/a/lFvUrff the most shocking are th final two pictures. Its like i aged ****ing 5 to 10 years in a span of months.
 
After reading this thread again and seeing your self-treatment with leftover pred, I agree with those who said to check with your PCP. It may be pred moon-face that needs to be addressed. And the pain could be from a completely separate issue/condition. Try that approach. Let the doctors decide if there is a link between the two.